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Posted by venomous99 (Member # 1917) on :
 
followed the build last year when he completed it...
probably one of the sickest foxes out there.
anyone have $40k they wanna spend?
http://forums.corral.net/forums/mustangs-sale-wanted-1987-1993/1580578-89-coupe-fox500-modfox.html
 
Posted by SIC9250 (Member # 8216) on :
 
Now the debate! Is it worth that much [Confused]
 
Posted by 97cobra209 (Member # 11376) on :
 
Damn I like!
 
Posted by ItzStock (Member # 9665) on :
 
He could have done something better with the door panels.
 
Posted by 1990mustang (Member # 12083) on :
 
[worship]
 
Posted by Saleen 00-0768 (Member # 9379) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SIC9250:
Now the debate! Is it worth that much [Confused]
Fuck no its got some basic stock foxbody rear suspension that won't handle for shit [Roll Eyes]
For 40k i expect somthing better than 4cly springs like its a budget drag car [BS flag]

[ 2014-01-14, 12:16 PM: Message edited by: Saleen 00-0768 ]
 
Posted by venomous99 (Member # 1917) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SIC9250:
Now the debate! Is it worth that much [Confused]
to the right person it is. for $40k id probably be shopping the C6 Z06 than a customize fox like this.
if the price was in the $20-$25k range i would serious consider it but i highly doubt the seller would drop that low.

the only thing i dislike about the car is the flat black engine bay. wouldve been nice if he color matched it to the body color. the rest of the car is pure beauty.
 
Posted by NavidR (Member # 3164) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Saleen 00-0768:
quote:
Originally posted by SIC9250:
Now the debate! Is it worth that much [Confused]
Fuck no its got some basic stock foxbody rear suspension that won't handle for shit [Roll Eyes]
For 40k i expect somthing better than 4cly springs like its a budget drag car [BS flag]
Agreed! This is an amazing build, but again for 40K you can buy a real GT500 car! People need to understand just because you put 40K in it, its not worth 40K.
 
Posted by Saleen 00-0768 (Member # 9379) on :
 
Door panels look like crap to me the stitching doesn't match the shape of the gt500 arm rest they stuck on their
 
Posted by SIC9250 (Member # 8216) on :
 
Lol and the nit-picking begins...is say its worth about 25k..
 
Posted by Bulkster90 (Member # 11621) on :
 
40k and i gotta buy my own windshield wipers?

quote:
Originally posted by SIC9250:
Lol and the nit-picking begins...is say its worth about 25k..
lol.. coulda spent a little more time on the drawing board for that door panel.

[ 2014-01-14, 12:38 PM: Message edited by: Bulkster90 ]
 
Posted by i (Member # 12534) on :
 
A lot of man hours , that why [patriot]
 
Posted by MaK_1967v8 (Member # 12187) on :
 
man hours don't mean shit if the car isn't even finished.

40k? The door panels look like shit, the car has no wind shield wipers, the suspension is "budget" built, 750+ horse with stock cobra brakes, he "puzzled" the floor pans in. I bet the entire interior rattles.

Just another guy that thinks his fox is gold. No different than the guy with the 5.0 swapped sn95 asking 25k.

Buy a GT500 under warranty for less than 40k.

http://yubasutter.craigslist.org/ctd/4253218070.html

http://sacramento.craigslist.org/cto/4286397825.html

http://sacramento.craigslist.org/ctd/4266739914.html

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/ctd/4246575088.html
 
Posted by venomous99 (Member # 1917) on :
 
rough crowd here...
wanna see what kind of cars the critics drive and the type of work they have done w/ their own capable hands.
 
Posted by Bulletsponge (Member # 9529) on :
 
CAFORDS PRICE, "FASTEST IN DA BAY AREA GT500 FOX!!!!!!" 61K NO LOW BALLERS, THANKS. TEXT ME FOR PICS.


Thats the ad a CAFords user would have for it.
 
Posted by Pure Stang (Member # 7251) on :
 
If it had gt40p's and a B cam it would be worth 40k, and it must swang.
 
Posted by *BlownMach1*- TRMYN8R (Member # 5400) on :
 
Followed this car as well. And it is a bad ass fox. Only thing that kept this car out if the top 10 was the engine bay! When I seen it in the mag, that is the one thing that I thought killed it. The door panels are "Ok" some people don't understand how much work custom door panels are. But yet at 40k it should be better. I think the price should be about 25k
 
Posted by *BlownMach1*- TRMYN8R (Member # 5400) on :
 
A good example is this notch that had over 100k in it and sold for $35k! And it's clear that this fox is notches better then the gt500 fox!!

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Posted by SLOWBACK 67 (Member # 6348) on :
 
^ Nice car. How much of that 100k was shop time?
 
Posted by NEIGHT (Member # 8741) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SLOWBACK 67:
^ Nice car. How much of that 100k was shop time?
Probably like $60k. Lol
 
Posted by 90GTSleeepr (Member # 9609) on :
 
Very tasteful car
- to each is own though I have customers who spend crazy money on cars cause they love them
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Posted by losbadgts (Member # 4394) on :
 
Nice car crazy build but gay ass brakes engine bay and door panels
 
Posted by Robb (Member # 9444) on :
 
Not even close to being worth $40k. You can get a nice mint 2010+ GT500 for less than that. You can also get a nice C6Z06 for less than that.

He would be lucky to get $20k for that car. The market is slim to none for someones own personal "dream" project.
 
Posted by Greasy (Member # 5258) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SLOWBACK 67:
^ Nice car. How much of that 100k was shop time?
That dude built it himself.
 
Posted by SLOWBACK 67 (Member # 6348) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Greasy:
quote:
Originally posted by SLOWBACK 67:
^ Nice car. How much of that 100k was shop time?
That dude built it himself.
Very nice. Anyone can buy a car or write a check. Very few now can say they built a whole car. [patriot]
 
Posted by NEIGHT (Member # 8741) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Robb:
You can also get a nice C6Z06 for less than that.

Why am I not suprised someone on CAFORDS would say that. [Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by MaK_1967v8 (Member # 12187) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by NEIGHT:
quote:
Originally posted by Robb:
You can also get a nice C6Z06 for less than that.

Why am I not suprised someone on CAFORDS would say that. [Roll Eyes]
automatic ban? [patriot]
 
Posted by NEIGHT (Member # 8741) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MaK_1967v8:
quote:
Originally posted by NEIGHT:
quote:
Originally posted by Robb:
You can also get a nice C6Z06 for less than that.

Why am I not suprised someone on CAFORDS would say that. [Roll Eyes]
automatic ban? [patriot]
If I could I would eliminate quite a few "members." [dance]
 
Posted by a302juGRnot (Member # 10163) on :
 
siiick build and car but ill have to agree its not worth 40k imo. another example are the brakes. gotta have better brakes for the steep price.

either way, still ome of the most impressive foxes out there and I'm sure this thing drives smooth af.
 
Posted by CornOil_&_Boost (Member # 5888) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by *BlownMach1*- TRMYN8R:
A good example is this notch that had over 100k in it and sold for $35k! And it's clear that this fox is notches better then the gt500 fox!!

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http://forums.corral.net/forums/mustangs-sale-wanted-1987-1993/1492153-91-coupe-turbo-termi-4v-779hp.html

it might not even be for sale until Spring it looks like..

but he wanted $50k for it...

and it's got way more into it than the car posted does

[ 2014-01-15, 10:21 AM: Message edited by: CornOil_&_Boost ]
 
Posted by fredfifty (Member # 10320) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by *BlownMach1*- TRMYN8R:

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bad ass with a fat ass!
 
Posted by Robb (Member # 9444) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by NEIGHT:
quote:
Originally posted by Robb:
You can also get a nice C6Z06 for less than that.

Why am I not suprised someone on CAFORDS would say that. [Roll Eyes]
C6Z06> Mustang. Its pretty much a known fact whether you die hard ford fanboys want to admit it or not.
 
Posted by NEIGHT (Member # 8741) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Robb:
quote:
Originally posted by NEIGHT:
quote:
Originally posted by Robb:
You can also get a nice C6Z06 for less than that.

Why am I not suprised someone on CAFORDS would say that. [Roll Eyes]
C6Z06> Mustang. Its pretty much a known fact whether you die hard ford fanboys want to admit it or not.
For ME Mustang > Vette, I would never own a vette. And if I felt like vettes were so badass guess what car I'd own and what forum I'd be on. [dance]
 
Posted by SydeWaySix (Member # 3596) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by NEIGHT:
quote:
Originally posted by Robb:
quote:
Originally posted by NEIGHT:
quote:
Originally posted by Robb:
You can also get a nice C6Z06 for less than that.

Why am I not suprised someone on CAFORDS would say that. [Roll Eyes]
C6Z06> Mustang. Its pretty much a known fact whether you die hard ford fanboys want to admit it or not.
For ME Mustang > Vette, I would never own a vette. And if I felt like vettes were so badass guess what car I'd own and what forum I'd be on. [dance]
Is it that simple to just say, "I'd own one...?" My bad BALLAH! [worship]
 
Posted by NEIGHT (Member # 8741) on :
 
Corvettes aren't expensive unless you are buying new. Remember you can always finance a car. [Cool]
 
Posted by Blu50Stang (Member # 489) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by venomous99:
followed the build last year when he completed it...
probably one of the sickest foxes out there.
anyone have $40k they wanna spend?
http://forums.corral.net/forums/mustangs-sale-wanted-1987-1993/1580578-89-coupe-fox500-modfox.html
You should buy it.


I, too, followed the build thread and like how the car came out. If I had an extra space in my garage, I might be interested in looking at it, but I don't. My wife would kill me if I bought another car, especially because there are things I'd certainly change to make it my own.
 
Posted by Blu50Stang (Member # 489) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by *BlownMach1*- TRMYN8R:
A good example is this notch that had over 100k in it and sold for $35k! And it's clear that this fox is notches better then the gt500 fox!!

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This car is one of the nicest foxes out there. $35k was a steal of a deal if someone bought it for that. That's not to say the fox500 couldn't sell for $35-40k, if the right buyer came around. But, you all have to know that the market for a $30k + fox is extremely small. It's just that, the right buyer HAS to come around, otherwise, timing will likely become a factor.
Depending on if he needs to sell or not.

They're 2 different cars. Fox500 is something I could see myself driving. This notch, I'd never take out of the garage.

[ 2014-01-15, 12:30 PM: Message edited by: Blu50Stang ]
 
Posted by Beasty5.0 (Member # 2935) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CornOil_&_Boost:
quote:
Originally posted by *BlownMach1*- TRMYN8R:
A good example is this notch that had over 100k in it and sold for $35k! And it's clear that this fox is notches better then the gt500 fox!!

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http://forums.corral.net/forums/mustangs-sale-wanted-1987-1993/1492153-91-coupe-turbo-termi-4v-779hp.html

it might not even be for sale until Spring it looks like..

but he wanted $50k for it...

and it's got way more into it than the car posted does
From my understanding this is the second owner of the car. The original owner/builder got about 55k for it. That being said, the subsequent owner, guy from FL, appears to be trying to get close to what he paid for it, which I can't blame him. That is alot of money for a fox.
 
Posted by venomous99 (Member # 1917) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Blu50Stang:
quote:
Originally posted by venomous99:
followed the build last year when he completed it...
probably one of the sickest foxes out there.
anyone have $40k they wanna spend?
http://forums.corral.net/forums/mustangs-sale-wanted-1987-1993/1580578-89-coupe-fox500-modfox.html
You should buy it.


I, too, followed the build thread and like how the car came out. If I had an extra space in my garage, I might be interested in looking at it, but I don't. My wife would kill me if I bought another car, especially because there are things I'd certainly change to make it my own.
haha...not a chance. its far too high priced of custom car for me to get into. i would honestly consider a used factory sports car like a C6 z06 or even a tesla S or X before i plunk that kinda dough into a stang.

the issue the owner will have in trying to sell this is having the reduced potential buying pool. the reality is majority arent prepared to drop $40k car on a car and rely on financing. most banks wont touch a car loan on a custom car like that...that said, it only takes one person who likes the car to justify the cost.

love practically everything about the car and respect the hard work dude put into it regardless of whatever price hes asking. i can appreciate a finished product and can look past some of the minor shortcomings on upgrades like brakes suspension, door panels(folks have u seen other door panel jobs that have upgraded to 94 and up dashes..this by far is bests them all)..the rest of it is beauty with exception to the ugly painted engine bay. surprised no one nick picked at the dusty or slightly worn seats. smh.
 
Posted by *EPIK* (Member # 7481) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by venomous99:
rough crowd here...
wanna see what kind of cars the critics drive and the type of work they have done w/ their own capable hands.
Seriously. Forums make me laugh though, everyone wants to throw down their judgement as to what is good or bad about a car for sale, but hands down, not many on Cafords have a car that is close to as nice & well done as this Fox, myself included...

I agree that for this car to be worth that asking price, their are a few things that need attention, like better brakes, suspension, & engine bay paint, but read again & see how much work went into this ride, & I am willing to bet the person who had this built has well over $40k invested.

These are the type of cars that you can't really put a value on, it is unique, & is worth whatever someone wants to pay for it. Who cares if you can aquire a C6 Z06 or a real GT500 for the same price, this car is for the person that wants something unique & different!
 
Posted by *EPIK* (Member # 7481) on :
 
This is the perfect buy for some rich dude that likes American muscle & that has multiple cars in his garage. $40k is nothing to rich folk, but most fox body buyers are looking for a $5k car to buy....

Hell, if it had all the other details dialed in & I was well off, I would buy it at that price.
 
Posted by *EPIK* (Member # 7481) on :
 
On another note, sometimes people don't want all that extra stiff aftermarket suspension shit on their ride, especially if they like to drive a car a lot. I was reading the ad, & the seller said "everything in the rear has rubber bushings. I wanted a smooth ride."..... I feel him on that, maybe this car was built to drive, not to race?

I for one know how much a fully built, badass aftermarket suspension can ruin the street ride quality of a car. I had the full MM kit in my Mach & yeah it handled great, & the quality of the parts were top notch, but it rode like a shopping cart on the street. Never again, no thank you! Stock k member FTW on a street car!

[ 2014-01-15, 01:08 PM: Message edited by: *EPIK* ]
 
Posted by CornOil_&_Boost (Member # 5888) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by *EPIK*:
This is the perfect buy for some rich dude that likes American muscle & that has multiple cars in his garage. $40k is nothing to rich folk, but most fox body buyers are looking for a $5k car to buy....

Hell, if it had all the other details dialed in & I was well off, I would buy it at that price.
To play devils advocate. ..

A rich person with 40k looking at a fox, would more than likely not pull the pull the trigger especially seeing there is something else better for slightly more money
 
Posted by Saleen 00-0768 (Member # 9379) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by *EPIK*:
On another note, sometimes people don't want all that extra stiff aftermarket suspension shit on their ride, especially if they like to drive a car a lot. I was reading the ad, & the seller said "everything in the rear has rubber bushings. I wanted a smooth ride."..... I feel him on that, maybe this car was built to drive, not to race?

I for one know how much a fully built, badass aftermarket suspension can ruin the street ride quality of a car. I had the full MM kit in my Mach & yeah it handled great, & the quality of the parts were top notch, but it rode like a shopping cart on the street. Never again, no thank you! Stock k member FTW on a street car!
LOL, I have full MM suspension my car rides just as smooth as it was when I bought it with the orginal racecraft suspension (california edition) maybe slightly more firm due to my spring rate.

And if that guy with the 750hp fox tried to get on it thru the gears he'd have one hell of a time keeping it on the road. soft rubber suspension and 750hp don't really perform well together. That's not how you build a 750hp car, that's a death trap.

[ 2014-01-15, 01:59 PM: Message edited by: Saleen 00-0768 ]
 
Posted by *EPIK* (Member # 7481) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Saleen 00-0768:
quote:
Originally posted by *EPIK*:
On another note, sometimes people don't want all that extra stiff aftermarket suspension shit on their ride, especially if they like to drive a car a lot. I was reading the ad, & the seller said "everything in the rear has rubber bushings. I wanted a smooth ride."..... I feel him on that, maybe this car was built to drive, not to race?

I for one know how much a fully built, badass aftermarket suspension can ruin the street ride quality of a car. I had the full MM kit in my Mach & yeah it handled great, & the quality of the parts were top notch, but it rode like a shopping cart on the street. Never again, no thank you! Stock k member FTW on a street car!
LOL, I have full MM suspension my car rides just as smooth as it was when I bought it with the orginal racecraft suspension (california edition) maybe slightly more firm due to my spring rate.

And if that guy with the 750hp fox tried to get on it thru the gears he'd have one hell of a time keeping it on the road. soft rubber suspension and 750hp don't really perform well together. That's not how you build a 750hp car, that's a death trap.
I dunno. Mine rode too stiff IMO, & I didn't have stiff spring rates. I think like 325 up front, 225 in the rear (give or take). I had the full front end swap with Delrin bushings, & in the rear phb, & extreme duty LCA's. Only thing I hadn't installed was the rear torque arm, but it was sitting on my garage floor waiting to be Installed when I sold the car.

Ride quality is a subjective thing, one car might ride smooth to someone, but ride like trash to another. & you gotta admit that the car is much noisier over bumps with the tubular K installed, this is a known fact.

That being said, I ONLY buy MM suspension made parts for my Stang. But this time around, I will not be doing a K member swap in my Fox. Coil overs, & adjustable LCA's are good enough for now, but then again I don't road race my car, so it's not needed. If I ever did do a tubular k swap again, it would be mm all the way, but with poly bushings instead of Delrin. I'm fine with my factory k though.

[ 2014-01-15, 02:10 PM: Message edited by: *EPIK* ]
 
Posted by quickblue302 (Member # 7912) on :
 
Thread bomb! My motor is pertty too..lol

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[Big Grin]
 
Posted by Saleen 00-0768 (Member # 9379) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by *EPIK*:
quote:
Originally posted by Saleen 00-0768:
quote:
Originally posted by *EPIK*:
On another note, sometimes people don't want all that extra stiff aftermarket suspension shit on their ride, especially if they like to drive a car a lot. I was reading the ad, & the seller said "everything in the rear has rubber bushings. I wanted a smooth ride."..... I feel him on that, maybe this car was built to drive, not to race?

I for one know how much a fully built, badass aftermarket suspension can ruin the street ride quality of a car. I had the full MM kit in my Mach & yeah it handled great, & the quality of the parts were top notch, but it rode like a shopping cart on the street. Never again, no thank you! Stock k member FTW on a street car!
LOL, I have full MM suspension my car rides just as smooth as it was when I bought it with the orginal racecraft suspension (california edition) maybe slightly more firm due to my spring rate.

And if that guy with the 750hp fox tried to get on it thru the gears he'd have one hell of a time keeping it on the road. soft rubber suspension and 750hp don't really perform well together. That's not how you build a 750hp car, that's a death trap.
I dunno. Mine rode too stiff IMO, & I didn't have stiff spring rates. I think like 325 up front, 225 in the rear (give or take). I had the full front end swap with Delrin bushings, & in the rear phb, & extreme duty LCA's. Only thing I hadn't installed was the rear torque arm, but it was sitting on my garage floor waiting to be Installed when I sold the car.

Ride quality is a subjective thing, one car might ride smooth to someone, but ride like trash to another. & you gotta admit that the car is much noisier over bumps with the tubular K installed, this is a known fact.

That being said, I ONLY buy MM suspension made parts for my Stang. But this time around, I will not be doing a K member swap in my Fox. Coil overs, & adjustable LCA's are good enough for now, but then again I don't road race my car, so it's not needed. If I ever did do a tubular k swap again, it would be mm all the way, but with poly bushings instead of Delrin. I'm fine with my factory k though.
I do agree that ride quality is subjective but I suspect your harshness was from your spring rate.
mike croutcher the driver @ mm told me to run a 250lb spring rate up front and torque-arm spring rear but I opted for the 275 lb with my bilsteins wich is the most you wana go with on the street as I was told

[ 2014-01-15, 03:57 PM: Message edited by: Saleen 00-0768 ]
 
Posted by *EPIK* (Member # 7481) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Saleen 00-0768:
quote:
Originally posted by *EPIK*:
quote:
Originally posted by Saleen 00-0768:
quote:
Originally posted by *EPIK*:
On another note, sometimes people don't want all that extra stiff aftermarket suspension shit on their ride, especially if they like to drive a car a lot. I was reading the ad, & the seller said "everything in the rear has rubber bushings. I wanted a smooth ride."..... I feel him on that, maybe this car was built to drive, not to race?

I for one know how much a fully built, badass aftermarket suspension can ruin the street ride quality of a car. I had the full MM kit in my Mach & yeah it handled great, & the quality of the parts were top notch, but it rode like a shopping cart on the street. Never again, no thank you! Stock k member FTW on a street car!
LOL, I have full MM suspension my car rides just as smooth as it was when I bought it with the orginal racecraft suspension (california edition) maybe slightly more firm due to my spring rate.

And if that guy with the 750hp fox tried to get on it thru the gears he'd have one hell of a time keeping it on the road. soft rubber suspension and 750hp don't really perform well together. That's not how you build a 750hp car, that's a death trap.
I dunno. Mine rode too stiff IMO, & I didn't have stiff spring rates. I think like 325 up front, 225 in the rear (give or take). I had the full front end swap with Delrin bushings, & in the rear phb, & extreme duty LCA's. Only thing I hadn't installed was the rear torque arm, but it was sitting on my garage floor waiting to be Installed when I sold the car.

Ride quality is a subjective thing, one car might ride smooth to someone, but ride like trash to another. & you gotta admit that the car is much noisier over bumps with the tubular K installed, this is a known fact.

That being said, I ONLY buy MM suspension made parts for my Stang. But this time around, I will not be doing a K member swap in my Fox. Coil overs, & adjustable LCA's are good enough for now, but then again I don't road race my car, so it's not needed. If I ever did do a tubular k swap again, it would be mm all the way, but with poly bushings instead of Delrin. I'm fine with my factory k though.
I do agree that ride quality is subjective but I suspect your harshness was from your spring rate.
mike croutcher the driver @ mm told me to run a 250lb spring rate up front and torque-arm spring rear but I opted for the 275 lb with my bilsteins wich is the most you wana go with on the street as I was told
See & all these years I listened to the MM techs when I would call over there. They told me 325lb was a mild street spring, it felt pretty stiff to me, but not harsh. You could be right? I have those same 325 coilovers on the front of my fox currently & they aren't bad, & I also had them on the Mach before I did the k member swap, & I know they rode better then the h&r super sports they replaced.
 
Posted by Saleen 00-0768 (Member # 9379) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by *EPIK*:
quote:
Originally posted by Saleen 00-0768:
quote:
Originally posted by *EPIK*:
quote:
Originally posted by Saleen 00-0768:
quote:
Originally posted by *EPIK*:
On another note, sometimes people don't want all that extra stiff aftermarket suspension shit on their ride, especially if they like to drive a car a lot. I was reading the ad, & the seller said "everything in the rear has rubber bushings. I wanted a smooth ride."..... I feel him on that, maybe this car was built to drive, not to race?

I for one know how much a fully built, badass aftermarket suspension can ruin the street ride quality of a car. I had the full MM kit in my Mach & yeah it handled great, & the quality of the parts were top notch, but it rode like a shopping cart on the street. Never again, no thank you! Stock k member FTW on a street car!
LOL, I have full MM suspension my car rides just as smooth as it was when I bought it with the orginal racecraft suspension (california edition) maybe slightly more firm due to my spring rate.

And if that guy with the 750hp fox tried to get on it thru the gears he'd have one hell of a time keeping it on the road. soft rubber suspension and 750hp don't really perform well together. That's not how you build a 750hp car, that's a death trap.
I dunno. Mine rode too stiff IMO, & I didn't have stiff spring rates. I think like 325 up front, 225 in the rear (give or take). I had the full front end swap with Delrin bushings, & in the rear phb, & extreme duty LCA's. Only thing I hadn't installed was the rear torque arm, but it was sitting on my garage floor waiting to be Installed when I sold the car.

Ride quality is a subjective thing, one car might ride smooth to someone, but ride like trash to another. & you gotta admit that the car is much noisier over bumps with the tubular K installed, this is a known fact.

That being said, I ONLY buy MM suspension made parts for my Stang. But this time around, I will not be doing a K member swap in my Fox. Coil overs, & adjustable LCA's are good enough for now, but then again I don't road race my car, so it's not needed. If I ever did do a tubular k swap again, it would be mm all the way, but with poly bushings instead of Delrin. I'm fine with my factory k though.
I do agree that ride quality is subjective but I suspect your harshness was from your spring rate.
mike croutcher the driver @ mm told me to run a 250lb spring rate up front and torque-arm spring rear but I opted for the 275 lb with my bilsteins wich is the most you wana go with on the street as I was told
See & all these years I listened to the MM techs when I would call over there. They told me 325lb was a mild street spring, it felt pretty stiff to me, but not harsh. You could be right? I have those same 325 coilovers on the front of my fox currently & they aren't bad, & I also had them on the Mach before I did the k member swap, & I know they rode better then the h&r super sports they replaced.
Im not 100% that's why but I also read you were running the derlin, im running poly, I did notice slight noise up front but it doesn't feel harsh over bumps
 
Posted by *EPIK* (Member # 7481) on :
 
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On another note, sometimes people don't want all that extra stiff aftermarket suspension shit on their ride, especially if they like to drive a car a lot. I was reading the ad, & the seller said "everything in the rear has rubber bushings. I wanted a smooth ride."..... I feel him on that, maybe this car was built to drive, not to race?

I for one know how much a fully built, badass aftermarket suspension can ruin the street ride quality of a car. I had the full MM kit in my Mach & yeah it handled great, & the quality of the parts were top notch, but it rode like a shopping cart on the street. Never again, no thank you! Stock k member FTW on a street car!
LOL, I have full MM suspension my car rides just as smooth as it was when I bought it with the orginal racecraft suspension (california edition) maybe slightly more firm due to my spring rate.

And if that guy with the 750hp fox tried to get on it thru the gears he'd have one hell of a time keeping it on the road. soft rubber suspension and 750hp don't really perform well together. That's not how you build a 750hp car, that's a death trap.
I dunno. Mine rode too stiff IMO, & I didn't have stiff spring rates. I think like 325 up front, 225 in the rear (give or take). I had the full front end swap with Delrin bushings, & in the rear phb, & extreme duty LCA's. Only thing I hadn't installed was the rear torque arm, but it was sitting on my garage floor waiting to be Installed when I sold the car.

Ride quality is a subjective thing, one car might ride smooth to someone, but ride like trash to another. & you gotta admit that the car is much noisier over bumps with the tubular K installed, this is a known fact.

That being said, I ONLY buy MM suspension made parts for my Stang. But this time around, I will not be doing a K member swap in my Fox. Coil overs, & adjustable LCA's are good enough for now, but then again I don't road race my car, so it's not needed. If I ever did do a tubular k swap again, it would be mm all the way, but with poly bushings instead of Delrin. I'm fine with my factory k though.
I do agree that ride quality is subjective but I suspect your harshness was from your spring rate.
mike croutcher the driver @ mm told me to run a 250lb spring rate up front and torque-arm spring rear but I opted for the 275 lb with my bilsteins wich is the most you wana go with on the street as I was told
See & all these years I listened to the MM techs when I would call over there. They told me 325lb was a mild street spring, it felt pretty stiff to me, but not harsh. You could be right? I have those same 325 coilovers on the front of my fox currently & they aren't bad, & I also had them on the Mach before I did the k member swap, & I know they rode better then the h&r super sports they replaced.
Im not 100% that's why but I also read you were running the derlin, im running poly, I did notice slight noise up front but it doesn't feel harsh over bumps
Yeah mine were Delrin. Probably overkill on the street & probably contributed to the harshness. Not to mention installing the torque arm would have helped to so the suspension bind would no longer be an issue in the rear
 
Posted by Saleen 00-0768 (Member # 9379) on :
 
when I talked to mike all I did is call the number on mm webiste and he happened to answer ive talked to him a couple times hes a really cool guy
when I first put my set up together I was originally told to go with h&r super race in the rear (MM tech) later to be told by mike their driver that that was too soft for my set up wich I argeed by the way it felt too soft to me
I really think it has to do with telling them what you want and them trying to give the best advice and I think I originally made it sound like comfort was my #1 priority
 
Posted by *EPIK* (Member # 7481) on :
 
Yeah I always talked to Jason or Chris over at MM I think. I told them my car was a street car, but I don't think I ever mentioned comfort. Nowadays, I want a nice balance between comfort, stance, & good handling.
 
Posted by BOSS 32V (Member # 8125) on :
 
Badass car but for 40k I'd like a painted engine bay at least...
 
Posted by NavidR (Member # 3164) on :
 
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A good example is this notch that had over 100k in it and sold for $35k! And it's clear that this fox is notches better then the gt500 fox!!

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it might not even be for sale until Spring it looks like..

but he wanted $50k for it...

and it's got way more into it than the car posted does
From my understanding this is the second owner of the car. The original owner/builder got about 55k for it. That being said, the subsequent owner, guy from FL, appears to be trying to get close to what he paid for it, which I can't blame him. That is alot of money for a fox.
This car is amazing... I can't stop looking at it!
 
Posted by SantaClara_Cobra (Member # 9488) on :
 
Both amazing cars and not arguing the price because I am not in the market for a muscle care over 10k
 
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A good example is this notch that had over 100k in it and sold for $35k! And it's clear that this fox is notches better then the gt500 fox!!

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it might not even be for sale until Spring it looks like..

but he wanted $50k for it...

and it's got way more into it than the car posted does
From my understanding this is the second owner of the car. The original owner/builder got about 55k for it. That being said, the subsequent owner, guy from FL, appears to be trying to get close to what he paid for it, which I can't blame him. That is alot of money for a fox.
This car is amazing... I can't stop looking at it!
I will admit this car is perfect, but the only thing I don't like, & it's just a personal preference thing, I'm not a fan of all the extra visible fuel system parts showing as much as they do in the back. Although it looks very clean, I'm sure it could've been done a little different & been hidden a little better, but obviously the owner was going for the "look at my badass fuel system" style. Super clean car though!

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Posted by venomous99 (Member # 1917) on :
 
asking 40k->now 34k lol
i think in a few weeks, he'll soon realize that his asking is way far off.
lets see how long itll be until he drops that price to $25k.
http://www.svtperformance.com/forums/fox-body-mustangs-402/988648-gt500-modfox-fox500-forsale.html

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Posted by venomous99 (Member # 1917) on :
 
update...the car is now 30k or OBO.
come up with some cash money and bid.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ford-Mustang-LX-coupe-mustang-coupe-notchback-Shelby-gt500-modfox-swap-5-4-dohc-/251436258264?forcerrptr=true&hash=item3a8ac4d3d8&item=251436258264&pt=US_Ca rs_Trucks

i suspect it goes for $27k. it is very tempting at $25k for me.
 
Posted by CornOil_&_Boost (Member # 5888) on :
 
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update...the car is now 30k or OBO.
come up with some cash money and bid.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ford-Mustang-LX-coupe-mustang-coupe-notchback-Shelby-gt500-modfox-swap-5-4-dohc-/251436258264?forcerrptr=true&hash=item3a8ac4d3d8&item=251436258264&pt=US_Ca rs_Trucks

i suspect it goes for $27k. it is very tempting at $25k for me.
I think if you wait it out...$25k is very easy to bid for it
 




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