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uh0h50
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quote: Originally posted by Fostang: He wanted attention he got it. Good shot placement
lmao you call that nice?
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87MclarenMustang
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Im still trying to figure out why he was cuffed and handled like that... [ 2013-07-02, 11:38 AM: Message edited by: 87MclarenMustang ]
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The owner should have just minded his own business and this entire thing would have been avoided.
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quote: Originally posted by Fostang: He wanted attention he got it. Good shot placement
If you can't hit a 90-120lbs dog 3 feet from you. You shouldn't own a gun! I do understand this is where cops stick up for other cops. Dude was 100% a ass hat. But that being said. What did he do but film some cops arresting someone. Even Him filming & talking shit to them, didn't interfere with said arrest. He was 20-30 feet from any officer. I guess cali has the same law as N.Y. Now it is going to be a felony to harass cop. Police state here we come.
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sic70stang
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According to reports he was blasting music from his car. Then started recording. The attention whore got what he was looking for. Fuckin sucks for the dog
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quote: Originally posted by 89Saleen310: The owner should have just minded his own business and this entire thing would have been avoided.
Why? Is it illegal to record police doing a raid? They were probably worried someone recording would catch them doing something they shouldn't be, just like what happens everyday in America. Pretty soon we will have a curfew and check points wherever you go.
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quote: Originally posted by Greasy: quote: Originally posted by 89Saleen310: The owner should have just minded his own business and this entire thing would have been avoided.
Why? Is it illegal to record police doing a raid? They were probably worried someone recording would catch them doing something they shouldn't be, just like what happens everyday in America. Pretty soon we will have a curfew and check points wherever you go.
It's called common sense. This dumbass didn't have any and now his dog is dead.
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quote: Originally posted by SF Coupe: quote: Originally posted by Greasy: quote: Originally posted by 89Saleen310: The owner should have just minded his own business and this entire thing would have been avoided.
Why? Is it illegal to record police doing a raid? They were probably worried someone recording would catch them doing something they shouldn't be, just like what happens everyday in America. Pretty soon we will have a curfew and check points wherever you go.
It's called common sense. This dumbass didn't have any and now his dog is dead.
Is it illegal for a citizen to record a police raid?
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quote: Originally posted by SF Coupe: quote: Originally posted by Greasy: quote: Originally posted by 89Saleen310: The owner should have just minded his own business and this entire thing would have been avoided.
Why? Is it illegal to record police doing a raid? They were probably worried someone recording would catch them doing something they shouldn't be, just like what happens everyday in America. Pretty soon we will have a curfew and check points wherever you go.
It's called common sense. This dumbass didn't have any and now his dog is dead.
I find it sickening when somebody will defend another man simply because he has a badge. Dude made a terrible judgment call like a LOT of officers do. Police are people, which means that even they are capable of being scum. A lot of them are too. It's so funny how many nerds from high school that got picked on in my town ended up officers. They like to finally tell somebody what to do. They love that badge. They think it makes them more of a man, but on the contrary... It's just another safety blanket for those pussys.
They are NOT heros. They are people who thought it would be cool to have a badge and gun daily.
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Fostang
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Look the circumstances behind it could have been avoided.
The legality of the detention is in question but the shoot itself is good.
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Oh and your right. He should of had the common sense to come to the common consensus that a lot of us do... Stay away from the pig because its dirty!
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turbo50
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God says to show compassion, no matter the beast.
I can tell you two things as a man.
One, anyone I have ever met that shows no compassion is full of hate and ends up being empty at their core.
Two, cops are only human and like any human you have the good and the evil.
That being said, yes I called a few on here empty and a few on here cops lol.
Dogs owner was a fuckin idiot that should have gotten shot.
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Fuck The Police.
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quote: Originally posted by Greasy: quote: Originally posted by SF Coupe: quote: Originally posted by Greasy: quote: Originally posted by 89Saleen310: The owner should have just minded his own business and this entire thing would have been avoided.
Why? Is it illegal to record police doing a raid? They were probably worried someone recording would catch them doing something they shouldn't be, just like what happens everyday in America. Pretty soon we will have a curfew and check points wherever you go.
It's called common sense. This dumbass didn't have any and now his dog is dead.
Is it illegal for a citizen to record a police raid?
Nope, but anybody with common sense would not act the way he was near a situation like that.
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Sure dog's worry about their owner. but to be honest? The owner needs to be smarter than the dog. Why the fuck would you hang out, play your music, video tape the scene, and look like a total dumbass? They didn't detain him over some "power trip" they detained him because he refused to leave a scene that he has no business being there after being asked multiple times. Had he listened, he wouldn't have been handcuffed and the dog wouldn't have been shot. ( not sure if it was technically killed because the video cuts off, but more than likely, It was )
This is a good example of cause and effect
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Greasy
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quote: Originally posted by SF Coupe: quote: Originally posted by Greasy: quote: Originally posted by SF Coupe: quote: Originally posted by Greasy: quote: Originally posted by 89Saleen310: The owner should have just minded his own business and this entire thing would have been avoided.
Why? Is it illegal to record police doing a raid? They were probably worried someone recording would catch them doing something they shouldn't be, just like what happens everyday in America. Pretty soon we will have a curfew and check points wherever you go.
It's called common sense. This dumbass didn't have any and now his dog is dead.
Is it illegal for a citizen to record a police raid?
Nope, but anybody with common sense would not act the way he was near a situation like that.
So he didn't do anything illegal to be "detained"?
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MaK_1967v8
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quote: Originally posted by Greasy: quote: Originally posted by SF Coupe: quote: Originally posted by Greasy: quote: Originally posted by SF Coupe: quote: Originally posted by Greasy: quote: Originally posted by 89Saleen310: The owner should have just minded his own business and this entire thing would have been avoided.
Why? Is it illegal to record police doing a raid? They were probably worried someone recording would catch them doing something they shouldn't be, just like what happens everyday in America. Pretty soon we will have a curfew and check points wherever you go.
It's called common sense. This dumbass didn't have any and now his dog is dead.
Is it illegal for a citizen to record a police raid?
Nope, but anybody with common sense would not act the way he was near a situation like that.
So he didn't do anything illegal to be "detained"?
correct me if i'm wrong, but some counties don't allow you to stand there and record a scene.
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quote: Originally posted by MaK_1967v8: Sure dog's worry about their owner. but to be honest? The owner needs to be smarter than the dog. Why the fuck would you hang out, play your music, video tape the scene, and look like a total dumbass? They didn't detain him over some "power trip" they detained him because he refused to leave a scene that he has no business being there after being asked multiple times. Had he listened, he wouldn't have been handcuffed and the dog wouldn't have been shot. ( not sure if it was technically killed because the video cuts off, but more than likely, It was )
This is a good example of cause and effect
He had EVERY right to be there. He didn't cross any kind of sustained perimeter. There was no yellow tape. There were no officers at the side he began at. He was behind all the cars. Not in the way. POWER TRIP PIG!
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Most of our better judgment would realize that standing there with either your music blasting or not recording a police raid is not a good idea. That being said the man did not break any laws nor did he interfere with police. It was a damn shame to use lethal force on a dog when you have other means to curb the situation. Why not tazer the dog or pepper spray it? This is so sad because this situation could've been avoided and you can tell by the mans reaction he loved the dog just a sad sad situation.
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sic70stang
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quote: Originally posted by Arch: quote: Originally posted by MaK_1967v8: Sure dog's worry about their owner. but to be honest? The owner needs to be smarter than the dog. Why the fuck would you hang out, play your music, video tape the scene, and look like a total dumbass? They didn't detain him over some "power trip" they detained him because he refused to leave a scene that he has no business being there after being asked multiple times. Had he listened, he wouldn't have been handcuffed and the dog wouldn't have been shot. ( not sure if it was technically killed because the video cuts off, but more than likely, It was )
This is a good example of cause and effect
He had EVERY right to be there. He didn't cross any kind of sustained perimeter. There was no yellow tape. There were no officers at the side he began at. He was behind all the cars. Not in the way. POWER TRIP PIG!
How about the music ?
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quote: Originally posted by ECOboostin: quote: Originally posted by Arch: quote: Originally posted by MaK_1967v8: Sure dog's worry about their owner. but to be honest? The owner needs to be smarter than the dog. Why the fuck would you hang out, play your music, video tape the scene, and look like a total dumbass? They didn't detain him over some "power trip" they detained him because he refused to leave a scene that he has no business being there after being asked multiple times. Had he listened, he wouldn't have been handcuffed and the dog wouldn't have been shot. ( not sure if it was technically killed because the video cuts off, but more than likely, It was )
This is a good example of cause and effect
He had EVERY right to be there. He didn't cross any kind of sustained perimeter. There was no yellow tape. There were no officers at the side he began at. He was behind all the cars. Not in the way. POWER TRIP PIG!
How about the music ?
What the fuck about it? Exceeding a decibal limit does NOT warrant detaining an individual. It's NOT reason to handcuff somebody. How would you feel if you were at you're local car meet with your system bumping and some cop handcuffed you for it? That would be an absolute outrage. A ticket, MAYBE. Depending on that city's laws the music may also have not been a violation. In my town I can be as loud as I want until 10 PM. What a sorry reason. Music. Haha joke.
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sic70stang
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The carshow pitch I agree but from what I read it was an active crime scene. In just getting all the information before I jump to conclusions here
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quote: Originally posted by ECOboostin: The carshow pitch I agree but from what I read it was an active crime scene. In just getting all the information before I jump to conclusions here
Right.. He just wasn't in the perimeter of the active crime scene. Didn't cross tape or the line of cars. The cops were just annoyed because the guy was a douche bag. I get that. But he didn't break any laws. You can't take action over being annoyed. He really wasn't in the way of anything. Those officers had a nice little walk to even get to him.
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