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StreakMatt
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It comes down to how well the H/C/I is setup. Does the bottom end have good compression etc. Then u definitely need decent suspension mods, plus all bolt-ons.
My brothers 93 LX with H/C/I ran a 12.09@112 with a 1.6 60ft. I've been trying to get him to change out the E-Cam he has in there and throw on some longtubes. I guarantee he will go 11.90's with those additions.
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50Reasons
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Just remove a few lbs and he's in the 11s but I agree with you Matt change to longtubes and cam
[ April 29, 2011, 07:03 PM: Message edited by: 50Reasons ]
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my old coupe the "v-town coupe" went 12.55 but it had a "z" cam, big heads,big injectors,good intake and tb,better ignition,3:73,longtubes,chassis work list goes on,etc.
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warhorse58gt
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Hell I ran 13.2 on a stock long block with 1.7 rr and a b cam cobra intake 65 mm tb and stock maf with with shortys and a stock catted h pipe with 4:10s with all the weight so high 11s is not that hard with the right HCI and right suspension under it then I you take out a little weight your right there. My buddy had a 12 sec hatch removed almost a 1000 pounds and gutting and removing every thing and ran 9s with a 327 HCI you just got to use some old racer tricks ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
f.y.i... if you have a b cam it's not a stock long block.. but it is a stock short block.. ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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50Reasons
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Originally posted by 50Reasons:
Hell I ran 13.2 on a stock long block with 1.7 rr and a b cam cobra intake 65 mm tb and stock maf with with shortys and a stock catted h pipe with 4:10s with all the weight so high 11s is not that hard with the right HCI and right suspension under it then I you take out a little weight your right there. My buddy had a 12 sec hatch removed almost a 1000 pounds and gutting and removing every thing and ran 9s with a 327 HCI you just got to use some old racer tricks
f.y.i... if you have a b cam it's not a stock long block.. but it is a stock short block..
Ok you got me there but I also had a spun main barring
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HCI cars are easily low 12 second cars the problem is that most people either up their game with some nitrous or boost or wrap the damn thing before they waste time with just HCI.........
Its not rocket science.
Cstang50s car is just re ring and bearing with b cam, performers and his car may be lighter but its not "gutted" and he is pushin 350 himself....
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93PONY
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Back in 03 the wife's 91GT was one of the heavier Foxes to run 11's on the stock shortblock. 3400lbs raceweight
The only weight removed was the spare tire, smog pump, and front sway bar.
Edelbrock 6037's (milled, exhaust ported, and quality valvetrain)
Edelbrock RPM intake, 70MM TB
Comp Cams 286HR (retarded)
Stock 120K mile shortblock w/Notched pistons
Ported shorty headers
Off-road H pipe
3.73's
1.70 60ft
11.99 @114.5mph
Fasterdamnit weighed in around 3300-3350lbs in his LX.
Stock shortblock
Fully ported TFS heads (something just north of 300cfm)
One of my custom cams
Longtubes / off-road exhaust
Fully ported Typhoon intake
Electric fan
3.73's
11.90 @115mph
There were a few other 11 second N/A stock shortblock foxes running at Sac Raceway at that time. Most of them just north of 300RWHP and 3000lbs.
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my 4.10s h/c/i did 13.1 @108 on 18 saleens & street tires,full inter...
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Jaejae5.0
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Originally posted by 50Reasons:
I've seen mid12s to high 11s with mild head cam intake in a efi foxes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqyJIvvGJhk
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Good info.
The 13.4 run I burned 2nd pretty hard but I powershifted all gears nicely. And that was with no pre run tire warming burnout.
I have TFS TW heads, TFS-R, and F-cam, 75mm TB ect. With 3.55 gears and no suspensionn other than H&R springs, MM Adjustable lower CA's and MM full length sub's.
The car runs hard but yes it was my first time out in 4 years in my full weight coupe + me at 270lbs with not bald but close to it BFG's GForce tires.
My 60ft times were consistent 2.2's when I got decent take off's. But like I said it's been a while and I was felling rusty. Also with RT's of .5XX I think that my drag driving can definitely improve.
I'm hoping to be back out there this coming Wednesday to practice again! If I do go I will post up my times again.
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you need to get your 60ft down...when i ran my 12.5 my 60 was 1.72
[ April 30, 2011, 10:39 PM: Message edited by: Cstang50 ]
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My old 86.stock short block,trick flow heads system max intake compucam 2031 and supporting bolt ons with a ton of suspension 3100 with driver and a tremec trans went 11.89 at 116 1.58 60ft on motor and 10.6s at 125 on a 125 wet shot 1.41 60ft.this was at sac years ago.car made 340whp all motor.I think with a shorter tire on motor it would have gone a tenth or two quiker.kinda bogged on a 28 inch tall tire
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by M&M Performance *BlownMach1*:
my h/c/i setup isnt the best to get so wouldnt doubt pple can run 12's with a fox with a better setup right??
Yes Scott did run that.. That's about average from the normal bolt on h/c/I.. Fox with a little less weight and 12s are there..
And Daniel... Lol u are talking about Bobby hall... Let's just say that car is a lot more than just bolt ons and has a LOT of money in it.. Also that car don't have a 327 no more! Me and him been friends since the 5th grade.. I worked on a few of his stangs, he had a Gt hatch back in the day that ran high12s with a completely stock motor.. Intake to pan! Lot less weight n lots of suspension!!!!!
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McCleskeys old car thats now mine was the first to run in the 11.90s with H/C/I stock shortblock notched pistons,TFS stage one cam,TFS TW heads and TFS intake only other mods was longtubes, 3.73 gears,MT streets and a airbag in the right rear.It ran 12.04 double clutching shift to third gear the next pass it ran 11.93.The coupe was 2950lbs with a 250lb driver.Here is a old video of the 12.04 run.
http://www.californiafords.com/album/VIDEOS/08_03_02/jon_vs_ls1.mpg
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a302juGRnot
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60ft is key
true dat but thats y i like lookin at the trap speed...id rather have my stang run sub par 13s at 115 than mid 12's at 106
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Originally posted by 5LTR SVT:
60ft is key
true dat but thats y i like lookin at the trap speed...id rather have my stang run sub par 13s at 115 than mid 12's at 106
whats the point of having that trap speed if u runnin 13's? just means u have more horsepower imo
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Originally posted by 5LTR SVT:
60ft is key
true dat but thats y i like lookin at the trap speed...id rather have my stang run sub par 13s at 115 than mid 12's at 106
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50DADDY
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Originally posted by a302juGRnuat:
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60ft is key
true dat but thats y i like lookin at the trap speed...id rather have my stang run sub par 13s at 115 than mid 12's at 106
whats the point of having that trap speed if u runnin 13's? just means u have more horsepower imo
It also means your driving sucks or your tires suck or both.Ill take the 12's with the low trap speed.
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Originally posted by a302juGRnuat:
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Originally posted by 5LTR SVT:
60ft is key
true dat but thats y i like lookin at the trap speed...id rather have my stang run sub par 13s at 115 than mid 12's at 106
whats the point of having that trap speed if u runnin 13's? just means u have more horsepower imo
It also means your driving sucks or your tires suck or both.Ill take the 12's with the low trap speed.
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Originally posted by M&M Performance *BlownMach1*:
Never in my life seen a legit 11 second timeslip off h/c/I 302 setup.. Imma need a timeslip to prove that.. I ran 12.2 with seans coupe with only h/c/I but 331bottom end, imported 170cc heads and 24lb injectors only!
Here's one that went mid 10s
Check out this video on YouTube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9k2SCvFZuC8&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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i wana know what h/c/i this sob is runnin!
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60ft is key
true dat but thats y i like lookin at the trap speed...id rather have my stang run sub par 13s at 115 than mid 12's at 106
whats the point of having that trap speed if u runnin 13's? just means u have more horsepower imo
yeah but it also means you have more potential...whatever your car is lacking in the 60ft, driver or whatever.
havent got mine to the track yet but when i do, i hope i get around a 110 trap speed. im not a very experience driver so im not really gonna expect much in the et...and i have no slicks either. but it would be nice to know with some practice, slicks or suspension that theres a 12 second run in her.
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Originally posted by 5LTR SVT:
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Originally posted by 5LTR SVT:
60ft is key
true dat but thats y i like lookin at the trap speed...id rather have my stang run sub par 13s at 115 than mid 12's at 106
whats the point of having that trap speed if u runnin 13's? just means u have more horsepower imo
It also means your driving sucks or your tires suck or both.Ill take the 12's with the low trap speed.
just a matter of practice or tires but i ahvent got mine to the track yet either...i only said that cuz eventually, the 115 stang is really the faster car at the end of the day
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Originally posted by 5LTR SVT:
60ft is key
true dat but thats y i like lookin at the trap speed...id rather have my stang run sub par 13s at 115 than mid 12's at 106
whats the point of having that trap speed if u runnin 13's? just means u have more horsepower imo
It also means your driving sucks or your tires suck or both.Ill take the 12's with the low trap speed.
i only said that cuz eventually, the 115 stang is really the faster car at the end
umm not really, cuz by the time that low 13 car with a higher trap speed hits the 1/4 mi.....that 12 sec car with the low trap speed will be done already lol
im assuming u never been to the track??
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Originally posted by 5LTR SVT:
60ft is key
true dat but thats y i like lookin at the trap speed...id rather have my stang run sub par 13s at 115 than mid 12's at 106
whats the point of having that trap speed if u runnin 13's? just means u have more horsepower imo
It also means your driving sucks or your tires suck or both.Ill take the 12's with the low trap speed.
i only said that cuz eventually, the 115 stang is really the faster car at the end
umm not really, cuz by the time that low 13 car with a higher trap speed hits the 1/4 mi.....that 12 sec car with the low trap speed will be done already lol
im assuming u never been to the track??
lol thats not what i meant...i meant "at the end of the day"
and yeah i dont have experience...ive only been to the track once
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