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FasterDamnit
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Originally posted by 91PONY:
Drew knows that he can talk shit about my car all he wants and I'll still luv him...
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You're the only one...
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Looked stock, went 11's 11.90 at 115mph.
'65 Mustang 347
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93PONY
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10's N/A isn't a problem @3200lbs & under.......what IS a problem is doing with the EFI intake. That is the major restriction in the combination. You can throw on the biggest heads you can get your hands on....but the typical EFI intake can NOT keep up. What's needed is either a Carburator setup or a Carb manifold converted to EFI.
Another hertile is pump gas....91 octane will only support about 11:1 compression with full timing advance on these motors.
Still, if put together correctly, it can & has been done.
This guy did it with a SuperVic EFI intake:
http://bbs.hardcore50.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=30308
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stoauto
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Originally posted by rico91stang:
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Originally posted by stoauto:
i would also run a girdle and windage tray
Windage tray good.
Girdle bad.
you must have bumped your head son. ![[Razz]](tongue.gif)
[ December 28, 2005, 11:10 PM: Message edited by: stoauto ]
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Originally posted by rico91stang:
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Originally posted by stoauto:
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Originally posted by jordan_0806:
91Pony's car is one the more impressive cars out of the bunch....It still has full interior and Basically a stock suspension...but still cuts 15 60 ft's.....
such a perfect combo of motor....
347
Victor Jr HEads and Victor 5.0 intake...
Shaun's (93Pony) super porting work is what got him the power out of it....
plus it revs freely past 7K..and hold it there....
lots of other tricks and all that he did to it.....
but yeah 430RW or so with 4.30's on slicks in a high revving fox could get you to the 10's
we also have mostly stock suspension, and i've cut a string of 1.4X sixtys.
we've made [u]390 rwhp on a mustang dyno[/u] on the motor, which would equate to a solid 420 plus on a dyno jet no problem. all with little [u]AFR 165s[/u].
WHAT???!!! Please explain. ![[Confused]](confused.gif)
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which part?
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Yellow94GT
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Originally posted by stoauto:
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Originally posted by rico91stang:
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Originally posted by stoauto:
i would also run a girdle and windage tray
Windage tray good.
Girdle bad.
you must have bumped your head son.
LOL
The same thing I was thinking.
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STREETFIGHTER50
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Originally posted by BlackDrop50:
that car on the right looks familiar ![[burnout]](graemlins/burnout.gif)
yeah, i think it's for sale again, huh?
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STREETFIGHTER50
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Originally posted by Yellow94GT:
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Originally posted by stoauto:
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Originally posted by rico91stang:
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Originally posted by stoauto:
i would also run a girdle and windage tray
Windage tray good.
Girdle bad.
you must have bumped your head son.
LOL
The same thing I was thinking.
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rico91stang
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Girdles do close to almost nothing when it comes to strengthening a 302 block. Just keeps it in a nice pile when the block splits. Vally pan girdles are somewhat cool though.
http://www.turbomustangs.com/techarticles/stockblock.php
Q: Will a main stud girdle help keep the block from breaking?
A: Ha, ha, no. All it will is hold all the parts together in a tidy pile. Some of the failures pictured below were equipped with stud girdles.
Also from what I read from 93 pony certain ones deflect if I remember correctly because of heat. Maybe he can chime in on it.
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rico91stang
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Originally posted by stoauto:
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Originally posted by rico91stang:
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Originally posted by stoauto:
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Originally posted by jordan_0806:
91Pony's car is one the more impressive cars out of the bunch....It still has full interior and Basically a stock suspension...but still cuts 15 60 ft's.....
such a perfect combo of motor....
347
Victor Jr HEads and Victor 5.0 intake...
Shaun's (93Pony) super porting work is what got him the power out of it....
plus it revs freely past 7K..and hold it there....
lots of other tricks and all that he did to it.....
but yeah 430RW or so with 4.30's on slicks in a high revving fox could get you to the 10's
we also have mostly stock suspension, and i've cut a string of 1.4X sixtys.
we've made [u]390 rwhp on a mustang dyno[/u] on the motor, which would equate to a solid 420 plus on a dyno jet no problem. all with little [u]AFR 165s[/u].
WHAT???!!! Please explain.
which part?
Was it on pump or race? What was the cam like and what did you rev it to?
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93PONY
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Main cap girdles are near worthless. If aluminum they can actually do harm to the motor (expands at a different rate than the Iron mains & can push the main away from each other unless there is 'play' in the girdle where it mates to the studs.....in which case what good is it?). If you must have one, steel is the way to go, but it will not keep a stock block from splitting at 600RWHP.
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STREETFIGHTER50
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10.86@127.00 1.52 ET Drags, Sac stoauto 89LX Carb'ed N/A 347
10.92@123.9 1.495 ET Drags Sac Yellow94GT94GT, N/A 347
10.98@125.73 1.55, ET Drags, SAC 91pony 91GT N/A 347 (93Pony Driving)
Did yall run these times on seasoned stock blocks or aftermarket? Also, what transmissions are yall runnin?
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Hungry Hippo
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Originally posted by rico91stang:
Girdles do close to almost nothing when it comes to strengthening a 302 block. Just keeps it in a nice pile when the block splits. Vally pan girdles are somewhat cool though.
http://www.turbomustangs.com/techarticles/stockblock.php
Q: Will a main stud girdle help keep the block from breaking?
A: Ha, ha, no. All it will is hold all the parts together in a tidy pile. Some of the failures pictured below were equipped with stud girdles.
Also from what I read from 93 pony certain ones deflect if I remember correctly because of heat. Maybe he can chime in on it.
then a main girdle is doing something. a valley girdle doesnt do shit, what do you think the intake manifold is doing?
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CDT
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Originally posted by STREETFIGHTER50:
10.86@127.00 1.52 ET Drags, Sac stoauto 89LX Carb'ed N/A 347
Did yall run these times on seasoned stock blocks or aftermarket? Also, what transmissions are yall runnin?
that is a stock block, stock t-5
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93PONY
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Stock block, Tremec 3550.
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Yellow94GT
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Originally posted by STREETFIGHTER50:
10.86@127.00 1.52 ET Drags, Sac stoauto 89LX Carb'ed N/A 347
10.92@123.9 1.495 ET Drags Sac Yellow94GT94GT, N/A 347
10.98@125.73 1.55, ET Drags, SAC 91pony 91GT N/A 347 (93Pony Driving)
Did yall run these times on seasoned stock blocks or aftermarket? Also, what transmissions are yall runnin?
Stock block and G Force T5
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rico91stang
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Originally posted by 93PONY:
Main cap girdles are near worthless. If aluminum they can actually do harm to the motor (expands at a different rate than the Iron mains & can push the main away from each other unless there is 'play' in the girdle where it mates to the studs.....in which case what good is it?). If you must have one, steel is the way to go, but it will not keep a stock block from splitting at 600RWHP.
See.. ![[patriot]](graemlins/patriot.gif)
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Originally posted by Yellow94GT:
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Originally posted by STREETFIGHTER50:
10.86@127.00 1.52 ET Drags, Sac stoauto 89LX Carb'ed N/A 347
10.92@123.9 1.495 ET Drags Sac Yellow94GT94GT, N/A 347
10.98@125.73 1.55, ET Drags, SAC 91pony 91GT N/A 347 (93Pony Driving)
Did yall run these times on seasoned stock blocks or aftermarket? Also, what transmissions are yall runnin?
Stock block and G Force T5
how do you like that tranny?
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Originally posted by CDT:
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Originally posted by STREETFIGHTER50:
10.86@127.00 1.52 ET Drags, Sac stoauto 89LX Carb'ed N/A 347
Did yall run these times on seasoned stock blocks or aftermarket? Also, what transmissions are yall runnin?
that is a stock block, stock t-5
stock t-5
[ January 01, 2006, 06:17 PM: Message edited by: STREETFIGHTER50 ]
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hpoefully that changes soon..
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Yellow94GT
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Originally posted by STREETFIGHTER50:
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Originally posted by CDT:
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Originally posted by STREETFIGHTER50:
10.86@127.00 1.52 ET Drags, Sac stoauto 89LX Carb'ed N/A 347
Did yall run these times on seasoned stock blocks or aftermarket? Also, what transmissions are yall runnin?
that is a stock block, stock t-5
stock t-5
I think "several" stock T5's would explain it better ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
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1999 SLOLEEN Twin Turbo Coyote
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Yellow94GT
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Originally posted by t top freak:
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Originally posted by Yellow94GT:
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Originally posted by STREETFIGHTER50:
10.86@127.00 1.52 ET Drags, Sac stoauto 89LX Carb'ed N/A 347
10.92@123.9 1.495 ET Drags Sac Yellow94GT94GT, N/A 347
10.98@125.73 1.55, ET Drags, SAC 91pony 91GT N/A 347 (93Pony Driving)
Did yall run these times on seasoned stock blocks or aftermarket? Also, what transmissions are yall runnin?
Stock block and G Force T5
how do you like that tranny?
Eh, its ok.
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1999 SLOLEEN Twin Turbo Coyote
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Originally posted by Yellow94GT:
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Originally posted by STREETFIGHTER50:
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Originally posted by CDT:
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Originally posted by STREETFIGHTER50:
10.86@127.00 1.52 ET Drags, Sac stoauto 89LX Carb'ed N/A 347
Did yall run these times on seasoned stock blocks or aftermarket? Also, what transmissions are yall runnin?
that is a stock block, stock t-5
stock t-5
I think "several" stock T5's would explain it better
only 2
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Evan said the 10.86 was in my old car! Yay yay! ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
[ January 02, 2006, 04:59 AM: Message edited by: STREETFIGHTER50 ]
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G Force T5 [/qb][/QUOTE]how do you like that tranny? [/qb][/QUOTE]Eh, its ok. [/QB][/QUOTE]
What exactly is a G-Force T-5? How would u compare them to the TKO?
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Yellow94GT
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There is an excellent write up on them here,
http://www.fordmuscle.com/archives/2005/12/T5Rebuild/index.php
If any of you are going to run one, I recommend the lightest clutch disk you can find.
[ January 02, 2006, 08:17 AM: Message edited by: Yellow94GT ]
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