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Topic: Car was a big dissapointment at the strip..whats the next best step?
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jmcclesk
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I am doing a motor swap this weekend. if you want help it will have to be another time if you want to do it by yourself have at it (saturday) valve events in 3.0 btdc open 38.0 abdc close
ex 49.0 bbdc opens (4.0)btdc if the valves events are within 1-2 degrees how can the cam be advanced 10 degrees ????
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93PONY
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Originally posted by jmcclesk:
I am doing a motor swap this weekend. if you want help it will have to be another time if you want to do it by yourself have at it (saturday) valve events in 3.0 btdc open 38.0 abdc close
ex 49.0 bbdc opens (4.0)btdc if the valves events are within 1-2 degrees how can the cam be advanced 10 degrees ????
...I'll wait till you plan on taring the motor down. Don't really feel like putting it all back together after I degree it. ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
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jmcclesk
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I have done them with the head on Its not that hard.
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93PONY
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Originally posted by jmcclesk:
I have done them with the head on Its not that hard.
Oh yeah, I know...I made my own piston stop out of an old sparkplug. ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
But...with the heads off it's a bit more accurate.
I'm also building an engine this weekend. But, I'd spare 2-3 hours to degree your cam...
Ah hell. All I'll have to do is pull off the dampner, upper intake, VC, & a few other things.
Alright, I'll do it this weekend!
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93PONY
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Do I have to put it back together??? ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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jmcclesk
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I have a piston stop, and all the tools have at it.
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KCmustangboy
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why must we take apart the motor...I really really want it
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93PONY
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Originally posted by jmcclesk:
I have a piston stop, and all the tools have at it.
Check your PMs.
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The Rick
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Here is the entire run sawson:
run1 run2
r/t 1.000 .716
60' 2.212 2.236
330 5.936 5.965
1/8 9.002 9.049
mph 80.26 80.26
1000 11.674 11.708
1/4 13.924 13.961
mph 100.31 100.11
I know the RT's arn't great but I really dont concern myself much with them since all I cared about is ET/mph.
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Posts: 868 | From: plumas lake (sacramento area) | Registered: Jul 2001
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93PONY
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Originally posted by The Rick:
Here is the entire run sawson:
run1 run2
r/t 1.000 .716
60' 2.212 2.236
330 5.936 5.965
1/8 9.002 9.049
mph 80.26 80.26
1000 11.674 11.708
1/4 13.924 13.961
mph 100.31 100.11
I know the RT's arn't great but I really dont concern myself much with them since all I cared about is ET/mph.
I can see right away you're in need of a tune. You should be gaining 22mph from 1/8th to 1/4.
I'd definately try dropping the FP....& messing with timing.
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The Rick
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Originally posted by 93PONY:
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Originally posted by The Rick:
Here is the entire run sawson:
run1 run2
r/t 1.000 .716
60' 2.212 2.236
330 5.936 5.965
1/8 9.002 9.049
mph 80.26 80.26
1000 11.674 11.708
1/4 13.924 13.961
mph 100.31 100.11
I know the RT's arn't great but I really dont concern myself much with them since all I cared about is ET/mph.
I can see right away you're in need of a tune. You should be gaining 22mph from 1/8th to 1/4.
I'd definately try dropping the FP....& messing with timing.
I believe the car is at 12 degrees timing.
To be clear: I need an adjustable fuel pressure regulator to adjust fuel pressure right? haha, see how little I know about this shit? ![[Frown]](frown.gif)
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05 wrx
Posts: 868 | From: plumas lake (sacramento area) | Registered: Jul 2001
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FasterDamnit
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Originally posted by The Rick:
To be clear: I need an adjustable fuel pressure regulator to adjust fuel pressure right? haha, see how little I know about this shit?
That's why you ask question at places like this. we may give each other a hard time, but we are serious about making power and helping ohters to do the same. Yes, get a Kirban.
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93PONY
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Yeah, you need an adjustable regulator.
& bump that timing up to 14-15! There's a MPH or 2 right there!
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The Rick
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I have a new aeromotive but it didn't fit with the intake ![[Mad]](mad.gif) Where to order a kirban?
Hey, if you guys ever need home audio/home theater help, look me up...that's my profession for about 4 years now. ![[Whoo Whooooo!]](graemlins/woowoo.gif)
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05 wrx
Posts: 868 | From: plumas lake (sacramento area) | Registered: Jul 2001
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The Rick
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Originally posted by 93PONY:
Yeah, you need an adjustable regulator.
& bump that timing up to 14-15! There's a MPH or 2 right there!
Is that still safe on 91 octane? I don't hear any pinging now but the car is damn loud.
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05 wrx
Posts: 868 | From: plumas lake (sacramento area) | Registered: Jul 2001
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Stimson
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For sure its a combonation of several factors. If you're running 12" timing, stick in some 87 octane. I'm still not sure this will get you the 60ish rwhp you're missing. Something(s) are wrong for sure.
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93PONY
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Originally posted by The Rick:
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Originally posted by 93PONY:
Yeah, you need an adjustable regulator.
& bump that timing up to 14-15! There's a MPH or 2 right there!
Is that still safe on 91 octane? I don't hear any pinging now but the car is damn loud.
Yeah, that's safe. Hell, I bet you could run 18 & not here a hint of detonation. Although, going too far advanced you'll lose power.
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The Rick
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Originally posted by st5150:
F) Do have 'basic' mods like pullies, 180 thermo, and a K&N right?
I dont have pullies but have the other two. I was told that with a stock radiator a water pump pulley is not that great of an idea and since I did run two amps before a alt pulley might not be a great idea. I only use one small amp now with a removeable sub box (figure about 3-5lbs extra weight)
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05 wrx
Posts: 868 | From: plumas lake (sacramento area) | Registered: Jul 2001
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The Rick
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Hey, some of you have similar combos. 1st and second on the street seem very very strong compared to what it was at before when I only had gears, prochamber, shifter.
Should it really be alot more difference then it already is? The car seems very strong to me up until ~80mph then it seems to slow WAY down and not really pull that well.
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05 wrx
Posts: 868 | From: plumas lake (sacramento area) | Registered: Jul 2001
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Stimson
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Get the pullies ASAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You're actually running less effective compression than stock. Don't worry about cooling. For all you know, you could actually be running lean! Pro M sends out some jacked MAF's some times. You never truely know with out a wide band.
Sounds like your car just needs some basic old fashion 5.O tuning.
Get your idle problem taken care of?
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The Rick
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Originally posted by st5150:
Sounds like your car just needs some basic old fashion 5.O tuning.
Get your idle problem taken care of?
No, I actually didn't do anything yet. I'm planning on buying the TPS sensor tomorrow since I actually get a day off for once. I got my boss to let me go early today so I could go drag racing ![[patriot]](graemlins/patriot.gif)
Damnit, this is what I hate about the car hobby...it takes to much damn time
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05 wrx
Posts: 868 | From: plumas lake (sacramento area) | Registered: Jul 2001
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The Rick
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About running rich/lean: my car does smell kinda like gas a little when I'm going through a drive through etc...is that a sign either way?
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05 wrx
Posts: 868 | From: plumas lake (sacramento area) | Registered: Jul 2001
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Stimson
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Really only if you're rich/lean above 4,000 RPM makes a difference on your trap speed, so while your nose may be right at idle/cruise.... you simply need a wide band O2 sensor above 4,000 RPM.
I saw a NA 5.O on the dyno that was so lean, it picked up 35 rwhp from richening up the air fuel ratio ![[Eek!]](eek.gif)
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The Rick
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Yah, i've been hoping bill does the dyno day for about a month now
*hinthint*
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05 wrx
Posts: 868 | From: plumas lake (sacramento area) | Registered: Jul 2001
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Stimson
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The guy who gained 35 rwhp ( forgot his name, he was in Strictly 5.O had had edelbrock heads) could have gained about 30 rwhp of it with old fashion 5.O tuning. Don't take your car on the dyno until your bugs are all sorted out and you're running 105+ mph trap speeds.
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