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Impact 5.0
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I am about to pick up a MM 6point witht he swing out doors for the Cobra and the only price I am getting is $650 and thats with interior already out......any better deals out there?
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Mach0ne351
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umm, i might be able to hook you up with my friend steven who installed mine.
give him a call. Steven Klemoksi of SKFabrication
1.650.387.7300. he might give you a better deal. let him know i told you to call him. his shop is located off Marsh Road in Menlo Park.
marek
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hey you were going to give me a prive for a 6 point from Hanes racing....PM me a price.
Posts: 2173 | From: Tracy, CA | Registered: May 2003
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JohnB
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LOL. Find a new place Craig. The entire purpose of a MM bar is so you don't have to PULL the WHOLE interior out. The bar runs $399 w/ swingouts...after tax and shipping, mine was $500 to my door.
Two welds are required for the whole thing, the rest is bolt-in...drill 24 holes, cut two for the back bars, you're done. ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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LOL. Find a new place Craig. The entire purpose of a MM bar is so you don't have to PULL the WHOLE interior out. The bar runs $399 w/ swingouts...after tax and shipping, mine was $500 to my door.
Two welds are required for the whole thing, the rest is bolt-in...drill 24 holes, cut two for the back bars, you're done.
Yea I was prices $380 for the 6 point from LivermorePerformance, but was told to make it NHRA legal it had to be welded in.
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Yup, two welds on the rear bar. That's it.
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66 AC COBRA
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so they charge 75 for delivery, i could charge 40 and make some decent money
by that i mean i live in fairfield and san luis obispo, my house in SLO is under 2 miles from MM's shop
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Posts: 6280 | From: Winters | Registered: Feb 2002
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66 AC COBRA
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and it is very easy to put it in
you need a drill and very basic hand tools to do the install, and something to cut plastic interior panels
you need to have two joints welded, a welding shop will do it for about $40
or bring it to me and i will do it for $10
the welding takes literally 5 minutes or less
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Posts: 6280 | From: Winters | Registered: Feb 2002
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Mach0ne351
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for NASA, SCCA and NHRA, the main hoop needs to be welded to the chassis. just having spot welds here and there wont cut it for the tech inspectors. bolt and weld the puppy down.
marek
[ September 07, 2005, 02:37 AM: Message edited by: Mach0ne351 ]
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[ November 03, 2006, 08:22 AM: Message edited by: season'd 88 ]
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twisted54
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BigBoyRacing.com
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1Sicgt
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No offense, but hell no! Way over priced, and the work I saw, I wouldn't trust my life with it.
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1Sicgt
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Craig, if you can't find someone, we can do it for you.
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Well I know when I get it, I can get the kit in and bolted down, just need someone to spot weld for me.
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1Sicgt
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Well I am sure we can do it. Let me know and we will make it happen.
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No offense, but hell no! Way over priced, and the work I saw, I wouldn't trust my life with it.
None taken...as long as it passes Tech, I'm ok with it.
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talk to Patrick (guy with red 03 cobra)
His friends have a performance shop in hayward. i'm sure they can give you a reasonable price. ![[patriot]](graemlins/patriot.gif)
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Call Jim Harris. His number is 1-650-464-2452. He has done a whole bunch of work on my 'Junkyard Dog' as well as many other racers. He does quality work at great prices with great turnaround time.
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66 AC COBRA
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to correct machone351's statement
for nhra the main hoop does not have to be welded to the floor to pass nhra tech
for the others i have no clue, but for drag racing, bolting it to the floor is fine, as long as the plate is 6x6 and minimum 1/8 thick, plus four 3/8 bolts per plate
this is way the mm bar is setup, and will pass tech to 10.00 with the welded in seatbelt bar
having a rollbar custom built is optimum, but a days worth of your labor, a few hours and beers for a buddy to help you get the cage in and out of the car a few times, and $500, you cant go wrong
because you get swing outs, you get a bent rear setbelt bar that allows the seat to recline farther for street cruising, it will fit great, it will not take a chassis shop a week to do, etc
these roll bars can be completely installed without paint, do all the fitting, pull it out, paint it or powder coat it, and then reinstall
yes i said powder coat ![[worship]](graemlins/worship.gif)
painting a roll bar in the car is a pain the butt, i am painting a roll cage in my (or vpr klrs notch??) coupe tommorrow, the whole car has to taped off, the glass was pulled, and is stripped, no fun ![[Frown]](frown.gif)
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Mach0ne351
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hmm interesting. well, for SCCA and NASA regulations, the cage needs to be welded down. who wants to rely on BOLTS on keeping the cage attached to the chassis?? not I...that's for sure.
marek
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66 AC COBRA
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Originally posted by Mach0ne351:
hmm interesting. well, for SCCA and NASA regulations, the cage needs to be welded down. who wants to rely on BOLTS on keeping the cage attached to the chassis?? not I...that's for sure.
marek
the bolts hold the roll bar to floor on top, and a 6x6 plate on bottom, like a sandwhich with the floor as the meat
to rip the cage from the floor it would have to be ripped out with it, the grade 8 bolts are stronger than the sheet metal floor by far
now welding it to the floor and to the rocker box would be ideal, thay would actualy be easy with the mm kit to do, but again, not needed by the rules
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1Sicgt
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Originally posted by Mach0ne351:
hmm interesting. well, for SCCA and NASA regulations, the cage needs to be welded down. who wants to rely on BOLTS on keeping the cage attached to the chassis?? not I...that's for sure.
marek
Not correct on the NASA rules
15.6.3 Installation
The cage may be removable or may be permanently welded, or any combination
thereof, providing that all aspects of the cage meet these rules.
15.6.6 Main Hoop
The main roll cage hoop shall be as wide as the full width of the interior and must be as
close to the roof as possible without violating CCR section #15.6.2 Inspection. One
continuous length of roll bar tubing shall be used as the main hoop. The main hoop
must consist of not more than four (4) bends maximum, totaling one hundred eighty
(180) degrees +/- ten (10) degrees.
No where it says anything about having to be welded to the floor. It is reccomend, though not said in the rules. But a bolt in, is still legal.
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Originally posted by Mach0ne351:
hmm interesting. well, for SCCA and NASA regulations, the cage needs to be welded down. who wants to rely on BOLTS on keeping the cage attached to the chassis?? not I...that's for sure.
marek
the bolts hold the roll bar to floor on top, and a 6x6 plate on bottom, like a sandwhich with the floor as the meat
to rip the cage from the floor it would have to be ripped out with it, the grade 8 bolts are stronger than the sheet metal floor by far
now welding it to the floor and to the rocker box would be ideal, thay would actualy be easy with the mm kit to do, but again, not needed by the rules
This is very true. Basically, any design that doesn't tie the subframes, frame and rollbar or the rollbar and rear bulkhead together, basically in a roll "WILL" punch holes through the floor of the car. Plates and all.
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Mach0ne351
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when i was racing with NASA, they mentioned that cages needed to be welded down. interesting how their rules say differently. it is best to weld and bolt the cage down.
marek
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66 AC COBRA
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Originally posted by Mach0ne351:
when i was racing with NASA, they mentioned that cages needed to be welded down. interesting how their rules say differently. it is best to weld and bolt the cage down.
marek
if the cage is welded then bolts wont do sqaut, unless i am missing something
when welded fully around the floor plate, the bolts farther center on the plate with just be holding on a floor that is already fully supported by the welds, does that make sense or am i just talking dumb because i just deiced to pull an all nighter to be ready for the 10th
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