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I just got my coupe back from Shaun and Drew at AED and I'm really happy with the work they both did. They gave good advice on the parts I should buy and did clean work on my car. My 140K bottom end H/C/I 302 made 321rwhp/339rwtq [patriot]
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what mods?

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Hey Tim, Glad that you are happy with our work. Your car is one of the cleanest Fox Body cars I have ever seen. [Cool] [burnout]

[ June 26, 2007, 11:23 AM: Message edited by: Yellow94GT ]

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quote:
Originally posted by venomous99:
what mods?

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quote:
Originally posted by SF Coupe:
I just got my coupe back from Shaun and Drew at AED and I'm really happy with the work they both did. They gave good advice on the parts I should buy and did clean work on my car. My 140K bottom end H/C/I 302 made 321rwhp/339rwtq [patriot]

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AFR 165/custom cam/performer intake and all the supporting mods.
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quote:
Originally posted by SF Coupe:
AFR 165/custom cam/performer intake and all the supporting mods.

pm me price paid please... [patriot]
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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by SF Coupe:
AFR 165/custom cam/performer intake and all the supporting mods.

pm me price paid please... [patriot]
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quote:
Originally posted by SF Coupe:
AFR 165/custom cam/performer intake and all the supporting mods.

hoping to make about the same power with the same heads, but i have an e cam, and cobra intake.....so we'll see what happens

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http://www.facebook.com/aop.fresno?ref=ts&fref=ts
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quote:
Originally posted by F8LSN8K:
quote:
Originally posted by SF Coupe:
AFR 165/custom cam/performer intake and all the supporting mods.

hoping to make about the same power with the same heads, but i have an e cam, and cobra intake.....so we'll see what happens
you're probably going to be about 20- 25 less HP. knowing Sean, he designed the cam setup and that's what made it make the power it did....those guys know these motors..

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If this was the white Notch? Yes one of the most cleanest Foxbodies to ever roam the streets. absolute beauty of a car. If you ever sell it please let Drew know there so he can tell me and about 10 other guys first.

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quote:
Originally posted by jordan_0806:
quote:
Originally posted by F8LSN8K:
quote:
Originally posted by SF Coupe:
AFR 165/custom cam/performer intake and all the supporting mods.

hoping to make about the same power with the same heads, but i have an e cam, and cobra intake.....so we'll see what happens
you're probably going to be about 20- 25 less HP. knowing Sean, he designed the cam setup and that's what made it make the power it did
no neccessaraly, my car alone stock, has those 20-25 hp more than a stock fox( i have bigger injectors, better intake, 1.7 rockers stock, and im probably forgetting some stuff) so keep that in mind [Wink]

i dynoed at 250rwhp, 291rwtq with just the e cam.......musta taken quite a bit of stuff to get to that 320rwhp mark in his 5.0.......with those heads on my car i will be damn near 300 or at 300rwhp.........plus im gettin a full port job and most likely take it to shuan to get it tuned......so i figure thats my 320+rwhp/320+rwtq with and AED tune [Big Grin] [Wink]

[ June 26, 2007, 03:43 PM: Message edited by: F8LSN8K ]

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quote:
Originally posted by jordan_0806:
quote:
Originally posted by F8LSN8K:
quote:
Originally posted by SF Coupe:
AFR 165/custom cam/performer intake and all the supporting mods.

hoping to make about the same power with the same heads, but i have an e cam, and cobra intake.....so we'll see what happens
those guys know these motors..
ya i know they do.....thats why i have faith in makin the same power with them tunning my car [patriot]

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Trick flow heads
T rex cam

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I'd say your E cam will hold you back from making good power

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Originally posted by hidnn.o.s.:
I'd say your E cam will hold you back from making good power

ya true, i know its not the biggest and best cam, and i know i can make like 10-20rwhp with a custom cam, but my e cam is smog legal, my heads will be smog legal, and so on......im trying to stay smog legal but still be pretty quick [Cool]

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102 fast intake
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quote:
Originally posted by F8LSN8K:
quote:
Originally posted by jordan_0806:
quote:
Originally posted by F8LSN8K:
quote:
Originally posted by SF Coupe:
AFR 165/custom cam/performer intake and all the supporting mods.

hoping to make about the same power with the same heads, but i have an e cam, and cobra intake.....so we'll see what happens
you're probably going to be about 20- 25 less HP. knowing Sean, he designed the cam setup and that's what made it make the power it did
no neccessaraly, my car alone stock, has those 20-25 hp more than a stock fox( i have bigger injectors, better intake, 1.7 rockers stock, and im probably forgetting some stuff) so keep that in mind [Wink]

i dynoed at 250rwhp, 291rwtq with just the e cam.......musta taken quite a bit of stuff to get to that 320rwhp mark in his 5.0.......with those heads on my car i will be damn near 300 or at 300rwhp.........plus im gettin a full port job and most likely take it to shuan to get it tuned......so i figure thats my 320+rwhp/320+rwtq with and AED tune [Big Grin] [Wink]

might wanna take this time to renew your magazine subscription there hoss. why dont you go ahead and ask shaun about making power with those 1.7s and "bigger injectors" [Smile] haha
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quote:
Originally posted by phil a:
quote:
Originally posted by F8LSN8K:
quote:
Originally posted by jordan_0806:
quote:
Originally posted by F8LSN8K:
quote:
Originally posted by SF Coupe:
AFR 165/custom cam/performer intake and all the supporting mods.

hoping to make about the same power with the same heads, but i have an e cam, and cobra intake.....so we'll see what happens
you're probably going to be about 20- 25 less HP. knowing Sean, he designed the cam setup and that's what made it make the power it did
no neccessaraly, my car alone stock, has those 20-25 hp more than a stock fox( i have bigger injectors, better intake, 1.7 rockers stock, and im probably forgetting some stuff) so keep that in mind [Wink]

i dynoed at 250rwhp, 291rwtq with just the e cam.......musta taken quite a bit of stuff to get to that 320rwhp mark in his 5.0.......with those heads on my car i will be damn near 300 or at 300rwhp.........plus im gettin a full port job and most likely take it to shuan to get it tuned......so i figure thats my 320+rwhp/320+rwtq with and AED tune [Big Grin] [Wink]

might wanna take this time to renew your magazine subscription there hoss. why dont you go ahead and ask shaun about making power with those 1.7s and "bigger injectors" [Smile] haha
[Roll Eyes] [Roll Eyes]

u dont really know how to read do u??? [Confused]

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Lq9 swap
102 fast intake
Trick flow heads
T rex cam

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quote:
Originally posted by 98slowhoe 'FIFTYLX':
If this was the white Notch? Yes one of the most cleanest Foxbodies to ever roam the streets. absolute beauty of a car. If you ever sell it please let Drew know there so he can tell me and about 10 other guys first.

That's the one. I was really lucky to find it and I'll be keeping it for quite a while.

To those looking for prices, the only thing I really paid for was labor. I bought the parts per AED's recommendations and had it shipped to them for installation. So you could find the same prices on the internet. Their labor rates are very reasonable considering the quality of the work.

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quote:
Originally posted by F8LSN8K:
quote:
Originally posted by jordan_0806:
quote:
Originally posted by F8LSN8K:
quote:
Originally posted by SF Coupe:
AFR 165/custom cam/performer intake and all the supporting mods.

hoping to make about the same power with the same heads, but i have an e cam, and cobra intake.....so we'll see what happens
those guys know these motors..
ya i know they do.....thats why i have faith in makin the same power with them tunning my car [patriot]
tuning your car is going to be pretty simple...I'm sure Shaun will even tell you wont get much off a tune...especially on an N/A stockblock..

but either way...good luck to you, I hope you do make that power...it will be pretty impressive...

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quote:
Originally posted by jordan_0806:
quote:
Originally posted by F8LSN8K:
quote:
Originally posted by jordan_0806:
quote:
Originally posted by F8LSN8K:
quote:
Originally posted by SF Coupe:
AFR 165/custom cam/performer intake and all the supporting mods.

hoping to make about the same power with the same heads, but i have an e cam, and cobra intake.....so we'll see what happens
those guys know these motors..
ya i know they do.....thats why i have faith in makin the same power with them tunning my car [patriot]
tuning your car is going to be pretty simple...I'm sure Shaun will even tell you wont get much off a tune...especially on an N/A stockblock..

but either way...good luck to you, I hope you do make that power...it will be pretty impressive...

ya true, pretty much just messin with the timing i guess......

oh and thanks [patriot]

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Trick flow heads
T rex cam

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It can be amazing what a 5.0 can put down when properly put together.
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quote:
Originally posted by phil a:
quote:
Originally posted by F8LSN8K:
quote:
Originally posted by jordan_0806:
quote:
Originally posted by F8LSN8K:
quote:
Originally posted by SF Coupe:
AFR 165/custom cam/performer intake and all the supporting mods.

hoping to make about the same power with the same heads, but i have an e cam, and cobra intake.....so we'll see what happens
you're probably going to be about 20- 25 less HP. knowing Sean, he designed the cam setup and that's what made it make the power it did
no neccessaraly, my car alone stock, has those 20-25 hp more than a stock fox( i have bigger injectors, better intake, 1.7 rockers stock, and im probably forgetting some stuff) so keep that in mind [Wink]

i dynoed at 250rwhp, 291rwtq with just the e cam.......musta taken quite a bit of stuff to get to that 320rwhp mark in his 5.0.......with those heads on my car i will be damn near 300 or at 300rwhp.........plus im gettin a full port job and most likely take it to shuan to get it tuned......so i figure thats my 320+rwhp/320+rwtq with and AED tune [Big Grin] [Wink]

might wanna take this time to renew your magazine subscription there hoss. why dont you go ahead and ask shaun about making power with those 1.7s and "bigger injectors" [Smile] haha
70rwhp going from gt40's to afr's [worship] [BS flag]

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quote:
Originally posted by Hungry Hippo:
quote:
Originally posted by phil a:
quote:
Originally posted by F8LSN8K:
quote:
Originally posted by jordan_0806:
quote:
Originally posted by F8LSN8K:
quote:
Originally posted by SF Coupe:
AFR 165/custom cam/performer intake and all the supporting mods.

hoping to make about the same power with the same heads, but i have an e cam, and cobra intake.....so we'll see what happens
you're probably going to be about 20- 25 less HP. knowing Sean, he designed the cam setup and that's what made it make the power it did
no neccessaraly, my car alone stock, has those 20-25 hp more than a stock fox( i have bigger injectors, better intake, 1.7 rockers stock, and im probably forgetting some stuff) so keep that in mind [Wink]

i dynoed at 250rwhp, 291rwtq with just the e cam.......musta taken quite a bit of stuff to get to that 320rwhp mark in his 5.0.......with those heads on my car i will be damn near 300 or at 300rwhp.........plus im gettin a full port job and most likely take it to shuan to get it tuned......so i figure thats my 320+rwhp/320+rwtq with and AED tune [Big Grin] [Wink]

might wanna take this time to renew your magazine subscription there hoss. why dont you go ahead and ask shaun about making power with those 1.7s and "bigger injectors" [Smile] haha
70rwhp going from gt40's to afr's [worship] [BS flag]
[Confused]

does that mean u agree with me and disagree with phil a????

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Trick flow heads
T rex cam

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To make good power you need good quality parts....along with proper installation.

1.72 'Cobra' rockers are poor quality crane rockers. I've had a few of them fail when used with heavy valvesprings & aggressive camshafts.

The E cam is not the best camshaft available that'll pass smog.

A stock Cobra intake manifold is VERY restrictive. Fully porting the lower only gets you half way. Having the upper cut apart, fully ported, & shortening the runners is expensive (I'm working on one now & can post some pics). & in the end at best it'll be equivilent to an Edelbrock Performer. For N/A power, the Cobra is a poor choice.

However, in the end you can still make good power with a Cobra intake if you choose your parts correctly & know the limitations of the Intake. Here's an example of a 'nicely done' 93 Cobra motor with AFR's:
http://www.fordmuscle.com/archives/2003/06/afrinstall/

One thing to remember, HP = (TQ/5252)*RPM
In other words, if your motor peaks before ~5900-6000rpm you will make more TQ than HP. If the motor peaks above 6000rpm you will make more HP than TQ.

A Cobra intake manifold will make it extremely difficult to pull the RPM needed to make 320/320. & in order to make 320HP with a Cobra intake on a 302 you'd need roughly 360RWTQ. Haven't seen that done yet on a stock bottom end. The most I've seen is 340RWTQ....which will net you just over 300RWHP with the restrictive Cobra intake.
Swapping to an RPM intake & larger camshaft will raise the RPM & you'd be exchanging low-end TQ for high RPM HP.

Also note: There are no shorty headers that can 'swallow' the wide AFR exhaust port. Port-matching of the header flange will be neccessary.

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