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do i have to if i use maximum motor sport lowers
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XD arms require reinforcement, the HD's and standards don't because the bushings have some flex, but it's advised if you're going to drag the car.

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got it rite on [patriot]

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these cars need it from the factory no matter what stock, its one of there many weak links, then any performance stuff just makes it worse
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Don't mean to high jack the thread but who can install upper and lower reinforcement and how much

[ July 21, 2010, 02:43 PM: Message edited by: 94 N.C.F. GT ]

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The arms will definitely put more stress on your torque boxes.

Interestingly, I've torn a torque box on two separate cars before ever stepping up to sticky tires. Both cars had MM weight jacker control arms, for what it is worth.

I will acknowlege that it is possible that the torque boxes were damaged before the MM control arms went on however.

I'm a proponent of beefing up the torque boxes regardless of the intended use of the car.

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i guess i will bust out the welder after all [patriot]

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Just as a follow-up, on one car I ripped a passenger side upper and on a second car I ripped a driver side lower.

Both cars utilized regular old radial tires.
Both were reinforced shortly after.

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I haven't ripped one yet, knock on wood.

have broken 2 stock rear swaybars on my `97 before I went to the IRS though...

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quote:
Originally posted by Blind:
I haven't ripped one yet, knock on wood.

have broken 2 stock rear swaybars on my `97 before I went to the IRS though...

Never broke a sway bar lol

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quote:
Originally posted by Luke87GT:
quote:
Originally posted by Blind:
I haven't ripped one yet, knock on wood.

have broken 2 stock rear swaybars on my `97 before I went to the IRS though...

Never broke a sway bar lol
it's fun, makes a nice clanging sound under the car when it happens.

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the other one I broke close to the middle, didn't take a picture though I was too pissed off that it happened again, both times I felt like I broke it on the freeway coming home from a track day.

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Wow, I've heard of that happening but never actually seen it.

If you stressed the things to that level to snap a sway bar, I wonder how much stress those torque boxes are experiencing?

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yeah thats crazy! ive never seen that either
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All I needed for installing torque box reinforcement plates were some wrenches and a drill but best thing I could've done to improve my cars stability. Money well spent.

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quote:
Originally posted by Luke87GT:
Wow, I've heard of that happening but never actually seen it.

If you stressed the things to that level to snap a sway bar, I wonder how much stress those torque boxes are experiencing?

Hah who knows?

First track day with irs i bent the passengers rear tirod/toe link, and busted a leak in that sides brake hose...

Guess I drive my car hard [Smile] but i did beat the times for 11/12 m3's, all the z3 m coupes, the 335's, etc [Wink]

It was a bmw club event, the porsche club days are fun to beat up on too.

[ July 23, 2010, 06:48 PM: Message edited by: Blind ]

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That's cool Kevin,

I never did any serious AutoX myself in any of my cars, but it certainly looks like fun! Much more demanding on the car, but fun nonetheless

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