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03GT281
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Just wondering what brand of subframe connectors would be best on my 03GT thanks
Posts: 218 | From: FF-707/EDH-916 | Registered: Jun 2003
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mtbaughs
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Global West are the strongest. They run the full length of the frame. Can support the weight of the car on a floor jack without denting. All around best choice IMO
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Posts: 2019 | From: Boise, Idaho | Registered: Jan 2004
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mtbaughs
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Haha someone copied global west's design with some very slight changes
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Posts: 2019 | From: Boise, Idaho | Registered: Jan 2004
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Blind
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how much do a set of global west sfc's run and can they be purchased anywhere local to south bay/penensula area?
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Posts: 8521 | From: Fairfield | Registered: Jul 2003
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cobraracer46
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Originally posted by mtbaughs:
Global West are the strongest. They run the full length of the frame. Can support the weight of the car on a floor jack without denting. All around best choice IMO
I agree, the Global west subs are the strongest.
The Kenny Brown sub frames are some of the worst
ones I have seen.
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Posts: 1172 | From: Woodside California | Registered: Apr 2002
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Procharged2Kv6
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where can u purchase these GLOBAL WEST SFCs?
how much?
would they work on my 00 V6??
thanks !! ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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Posts: 579 | From: San Francisco, CA | Registered: Jul 2002
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03GT281
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i was looking at the maximum motorsports theyre good i heard. anyways they have twokinds the full length and the standard which should i get?
thanks ![[Confused]](confused.gif)
Posts: 218 | From: FF-707/EDH-916 | Registered: Jun 2003
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Originally posted by mtbaughs:
http://www.globalwest.net/
cool, it looks like speed merchant in san jose is a distributer, I've seen the shop before but it just appeared to be a bling blang rim shop at first glance, lol ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
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Posts: 8521 | From: Fairfield | Registered: Jul 2003
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JoeT
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cool, it looks like speed merchant in san jose is a distributer, I've seen the shop before but it just appeared to be a bling blang rim shop at first glance, lol [/QB]
they're $449 MSRP dumbass ![[Razz]](tongue.gif)
just get the MM full lengths so we don't have to cut up the floor and the welding is going to be free, something like $85 last time I checked. They have the seat supports too.
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Posts: 6785 | From: San Jose | Registered: Jun 2001
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mtbaughs
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Originally posted by shade-:
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cool, it looks like speed merchant in san jose is a distributer, I've seen the shop before but it just appeared to be a bling blang rim shop at first glance, lol
they're $449 MSRP dumbass
just get the MM full lengths so we don't have to cut up the floor and the welding is going to be free, something like $85 last time I checked. They have the seat supports too. [/QB]
The base Global West subs are 129.99 and theres no cutting of the floor? You've got me confused. The MM full lengths are not a bad part just not as strong
Posts: 2019 | From: Boise, Idaho | Registered: Jan 2004
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the global west ones are $125??
the new ones posted above are 449 msrp but thats not what speed merchant sells
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Posts: 8521 | From: Fairfield | Registered: Jul 2003
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JoeT
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wow that "Ultralite tube design " $125 subframe looks like crush-city to the humble floor jack...
[ April 11, 2004, 10:41 PM: Message edited by: shade- ]
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Posts: 6785 | From: San Jose | Registered: Jun 2001
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mtbaughs
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Originally posted by shade-:
wow that "Ultralite tube design " $125 subframe looks like crush-city to the humble floor jack...
Well I am not talking about the ones listed above. I am talking about the Global West Subs. As far as crushing the Globals with a floor jack your dreaming. Anyones thats ever had them or been around the different makers of subs will tell ya they are certainly not weak! How many subs have you installed and used? Me, I've installed Global west's inner and outer designed subs, maximum motorsports full length and standard lengths, griggs racing's subs and frame kit, kenny brown, BBK and pretty much every sub made I've had my hands on and installed. I can't say anything about the above pictured subs but they are similar looking to Globals inner and outter set. Your telling me Maximum's set which comes made with 1-1/4” x 2” x .083 wall thickness is stronger than Globals roll bar tubing built with 1020 seamless .125 wall roll cage tubing, 1-5/8" diameter No where near it. ![[Roll Eyes]](rolleyes.gif)
Posts: 2019 | From: Boise, Idaho | Registered: Jan 2004
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imbroken
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Global West is an OLD pioneer in suspension components as many of you probably know, they have QUALITY components.
Also, Shade, hence the reason there are "JACKING" Subs, and the tubular LIGHTER ones which are not meant for jacking.. They are supposed to be awesome *shrug*
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Posts: 1772 | From: Anaheim Hills, Ca | Registered: Feb 2001
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mtbaughs
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Globals base subs Part# 912 list $129.99
Globals outer subframe assembly Part# 915 $76.99
Globals inner and outer combo pre-welded Part# 921 $320.99
These are prices for a fox body mustang quoted from Global West's web site as I listed above
[ April 11, 2004, 11:23 PM: Message edited by: mtbaughs ]
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Posts: 2019 | From: Boise, Idaho | Registered: Jan 2004
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JoeT
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OK here's a synopsis:
me: the $449 global west subframes are out of budget range
you guys: we're not talking about those, we're talking about the $125 ones, obviously.
me: those $125 ones don't look like they'd support a jack without being crushed
you guys: we're not talking about those $125 ones, we're talking about the super-duper $400+ one's again.
me: sorry I can't stay on topic!
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Posts: 6785 | From: San Jose | Registered: Jun 2001
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BlackNGold
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I loved my MM subs on my last Mustang...I could see the difference just by jacking the car down after the install...
I'd try to stay away from tubular subs...For one they offer less ground clearance and for 2 they're generally weaker.... ![[patriot]](graemlins/patriot.gif)
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Posts: 5132 | From: Bay Area, CA | Registered: Dec 2001
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what do sub frame connectors do for the car???? sorry if its a dumb question
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Posts: 320 | From: Nor Cal | Registered: Mar 2003
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mtbaughs
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Originally posted by Black94 5.0:
I loved my MM subs on my last Mustang...I could see the difference just by jacking the car down after the install...
I'd try to stay away from tubular subs...For one they offer less ground clearance and for 2 they're generally weaker....
The MM subs are not a bad choice, their just not the best choice. As far as ground clearance goes theres a few tubular sets that reduce clearance by cheap manuf.. Global West's do not reduce ground clearance at all. If you all had ever installed them you'd know this as they attach to the frame in a different manner. I am still trying to determine why you all think a .125" walled tube global west sub is weaker than the MM .083" walled sub. Obviously theres a lot of people here who are ignorant to what these #'s mean.
Posts: 2019 | From: Boise, Idaho | Registered: Jan 2004
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Glenn
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why not try bigboy racing's sub frames? $170 installed. hope this helps, and he is local.
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Posts: 2009 | From: Stationed on a Pacific Island, Guam | Registered: Oct 2001
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BlackNGold
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Originally posted by mtbaughs:
I am still trying to determine why you all think a .125" walled tube global west sub is weaker than the MM .083" walled sub.
MM "standard subs" are 1"x2" rectangular tubing with .120" wall thickness..
MM full lengths are 1-1/4" x 2" with .083" wall thickness...The thinner wall tubing is used to lessen the weight, while the taller dimension increases stiffness by 30% over standard connectors....MM add reinforcing plates at each bend to prevent the flexing which would otherwise occur with the thinner wall tubing...
My MM subs had 3-4" welds about every 4 inches along the existing factory sub frames...So, I had more than a couple of connected areas, thus making the floor stronger and flex less....
The Global West Subs are great subframes and I know what you're talking about with ground clearance on them...I was more or less refering to the ones on the 1st page of this post...
Aren't tubes easier to bend than a rectangular bar?....Kinda like 4 sides are stronger than 1?...
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Posts: 5132 | From: Bay Area, CA | Registered: Dec 2001
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mtbaughs
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Well I think if you have a tube with the same wall thickness as a boxed subframe than I'd agree the boxed subframe might be stronger. In most cases however the boxed sub frames are not as thick. I'm just going off what I've seen. Many cars with different set ups I've thrown a floor jack under them. The boxed style holds up great if you lift it along the factory frame. If you lift it between the factory frame and torque boxes were it isn't supported I've seen the box tubing bend. On the other hand I've never seen the Globals bend up or dent. The MM subs are good quality. It just depends I guess on what your looking to get out of the install. We had a customer at Charlie's that flipped his car over 4 times on a road racing track. After his car was towed back to the shop you could look at the lower body panels and where they crushed to. He had inner and outer Globals. The sheet metal crush all the way to where the outer globals were mounted. It is likely if they had not been there it would have crushed further in board. The decision really comes down to again what a person is looking to get out of a set of subs. How much they want to pay for parts and how much they want to pay for install.
Posts: 2019 | From: Boise, Idaho | Registered: Jan 2004
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88bird
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Global West hands down, I only had Global West or Kenny Brown to choose from at the time, so the choice was easy. Excellent fit with no ground clearance lost, however I only had the option of outers for my car. And remember as with all performance parts you get what you pay for and these are well worth it.
Posts: 149 | From: Citrus Heights | Registered: Jun 2002
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