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Topic: NEW COMBO GUESS #S
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Don
CAFords OG
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I am now going to be switching to AFR185s with an X303 cam in my 10.5 to 1 347.
So I figured I would let people try to guess my numbers before I make it to the track in about a month. ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
Cam will be instaled by 93Cobra, and he will also be helping coatch me with the rest of my motor. Thanks a million man for all your help. ![[worship]](graemlins/worship.gif) ![[dance]](graemlins/dance.gif)
Here is the total combo
347 10.5 to 1
X303
AFR185 1.6 rockers
RPM intake 75mm TB 76mm C&L
1 3/4 longtubes
3 inch exhuast dumped at muffler
Art Car AOD MVB 3000 converter
3.73 gears and 26 10.5 ET streets
3500lbs with driver
These topics are so fun.... ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
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06 sti 2.5
95 GT 5.2
Posts: 962 | From: Manteca, CA | Registered: Feb 2002
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Glenn
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375RWHP
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S-Trim,331,H/C/I
"JohnB groupie train"
My Car
DragGuam
Posts: 2009 | From: Stationed on a Pacific Island, Guam | Registered: Oct 2001
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mtbaughs
Road Racer
Member # 4052
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Why not run a split duration cam from someone like comp cams. You'll see a bunch more power than with the X cam. Ford cams are not all that great for a modified motor. Something with a 232/242 duration for this set up. Just food for thought
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R.I.P. Charlie Bruno Dec 2001
Posts: 2019 | From: Boise, Idaho | Registered: Jan 2004
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Don
CAFords OG
Member # 938
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X303 and RPM will be on the motor untill next Jan.
Then I will switch to a custom and a victor 5.0
Gota pass somg next year and don't want to pull it apart untill after that.
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06 sti 2.5
95 GT 5.2
Posts: 962 | From: Manteca, CA | Registered: Feb 2002
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ONEQKFIVE0
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11.5 to low 11's about 115 to 118 mph 1/4
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03 cobra -UPR 2.80 upper pulley
-UPR idler pulley kit
-Accufab throttle body
-Diablo Sport Predator
-13 lbs. boost
-463.94 rwt / 452.18 rwhp
Posts: 235 | From: ........california ........ | Registered: Jul 2002
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Stimson
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358 rwhp.
EDIT: Didn't noticed AOD: 333 rwhp.
[ January 30, 2004, 02:11 PM: Message edited by: st5150 ]
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Jeff S
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351rwhp
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'90 Mustang LX: 8.53 @ 157.92 w/ 1.33 60' on DR's
'10 ZR1: FOR SALE
'14 E63 S: RENNtech ECU
'04 Gallardo: UGR TTG
Posts: 2121 | From: San Jose, CA | Registered: Aug 2001
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1SLOWLX
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346rwhp
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Built Tuff with your stuff ;)
Posts: 5231 | From: bay area | Registered: Nov 2001
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2stangs69-91
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since when is the X303 a smog cam LOL. you could probably pass with your custom and 4 good cats If they were good ones and you don't keep them on there two long(they will melt)
Besides that I bet your 347 rips I would guess 350 plus also. Plus meaning anywere up to very high 300's
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69 Mustang on hold
1991 LX hatch getting a make over
1994 F150 4X4 351
2006 Yamaha V-max 1200 Modded
Posts: 3711 | From: Redding | Registered: Oct 2002
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Don
CAFords OG
Member # 938
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X303 instaled correctly in a 347 will pass smog.
If car goes 11.5 or better then I will not change anything, but if its in the low 12s to high 11s I will.
I also have a single fogger NX kit in the car. I would like to run a 10.99 on the bottle, so the car needs to run 11.5 or better on the motor.
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06 sti 2.5
95 GT 5.2
Posts: 962 | From: Manteca, CA | Registered: Feb 2002
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mtbaughs
Road Racer
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I saw a car just like this with about the same mods run into the 11's. It was a fox body 5-speed 342 ci stroker X cam afr 185's...light weight. Good rear suspension bite and some DOT drag radials. If your auto is tuned well you should be able to make it into the 11's no sweat.
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R.I.P. Charlie Bruno Dec 2001
Posts: 2019 | From: Boise, Idaho | Registered: Jan 2004
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mtbaughs
Road Racer
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Also if you worried about running a different cam because of smog I wouldn't. Once they open your hood and see those long tubes it'll fail for sure unless you get lucky and you know the smog guy.
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R.I.P. Charlie Bruno Dec 2001
Posts: 2019 | From: Boise, Idaho | Registered: Jan 2004
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FasterDamnit
Bad Attitude
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If it doesn't run 11's w/ traction then something is seriuosly wrong.
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'92 LX T5
Looked stock, went 11's 11.90 at 115mph.
'65 Mustang 347
www.fordmuscle.com
Livin' in the Carolina Pines
Posts: 2971 | From: NorCal | Registered: Sep 2001
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Don
CAFords OG
Member # 938
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Headers are much easier swap then a cam. Plus I do have freinds too.
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06 sti 2.5
95 GT 5.2
Posts: 962 | From: Manteca, CA | Registered: Feb 2002
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93PONY
Mr. Valve Events
Member # 60
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330-350RWHP
Enough to squeeze out an 11 & pass the sniffer. ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
Remember to Port your headers! ![[Razz]](tongue.gif)
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www.advancedenginedevelopment.com
SCT dealer
Dynotuning
(916)715-7569
Posts: 4265 | From: Fair Oaks, CA | Registered: Nov 2000
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Yellow94GT
Mr. 60 FT
Member # 431
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quote:
Originally posted by 93PONY:
330-350RWHP
Enough to squeeze out an 11 & pass the sniffer.
Remember to Port your headers!
Check PM's
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1994 GT Bucket that will likely never run
1999 SLOLEEN Twin Turbo Coyote
2008 F250 580 RWHP 1129 RWTQ
Posts: 5990 | From: Cameron Park, Ca | Registered: Sep 2001
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Norgs
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quote:
Originally posted by mtbaughs:
Why not run a split duration cam from someone like comp cams. You'll see a bunch more power than with the X cam. Ford cams are not all that great for a modified motor. Something with a 232/242 duration for this set up. Just food for thought
i agree. u will have much better numbers with the split cam. it helps play for the difference in sizes of the valves. its the way to go! ![[patriot]](graemlins/patriot.gif)
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R.I.P. Miles 12/8/02
R.I.P. Mike 12-2-03 cant believe it. gonna miss u man!!
Posts: 1031 | From: Tempe...formally San Ramon | Registered: Dec 2001
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Camara90
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man i put down 358 with an x-cam, afr 165,s untouched just milled ten thousandths, 1.6rr, 1 5/8 inch headers, 2 1/2 inch exh, 73mm c&L, mac cold air, 70mm tb, and a holley intake. Car ran 12.3 at 114.8 raceweight around 3450, on 17x9 cobras with nittos. 60 foot was a low 1.8.
Just thought i would let you know.
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92GT,stock short block,9:1 TFS 170's,perf rpm,custom cam,1 5/8 shorties,C4 trans.
std. 356hp, 350tq
11.85@111.9mph on motor.
Posts: 2351 | From: 707 | Registered: Jan 2001
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2stangs69-91
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Don I meant the X303 cam is not a street legal cam in the first place no EO number. A custom cam should pass just as well with all the smog stuff. The correct way meaning in the engine
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69 Mustang on hold
1991 LX hatch getting a make over
1994 F150 4X4 351
2006 Yamaha V-max 1200 Modded
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93PONY
Mr. Valve Events
Member # 60
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Custom's don't carry EO #'s either. No custom does.
But grind it right & it'll pass the sniffer. As will the X, B, &F which also don't carry an EO #.
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www.advancedenginedevelopment.com
SCT dealer
Dynotuning
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Posts: 4265 | From: Fair Oaks, CA | Registered: Nov 2000
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2stangs69-91
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Dah LOL that has been my entire point why bother wondering if a x cam will pass smog when it is illegal in the first place. If you are going run a illegal cam start out with the one you want. The cats will hopefully burn everything up.
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69 Mustang on hold
1991 LX hatch getting a make over
1994 F150 4X4 351
2006 Yamaha V-max 1200 Modded
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mtbaughs
Road Racer
Member # 4052
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Theres plenty of split duration cams available without needing a custom grind. Some of them are even carb legal. With the X-cam you are holding the intake and exhaust valves open the same amount of time...!? Sure the X cam can put up some good numbers but why sell yourself short and not get better numbers. It's all in understanding the way the common windsor works. I think people tend to use combinations that they've seen on everyone elses cars. It's the guys that actually gain the understanding of how and what a motor needs that are out there constantly winning races.
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R.I.P. Charlie Bruno Dec 2001
Posts: 2019 | From: Boise, Idaho | Registered: Jan 2004
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93PONY
Mr. Valve Events
Member # 60
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This particular AFR combo will run best with a single pattern camshaft...if not a slightly reverse-split pattern.
The X is the best bang-for-the-buck smogable cam you can get. At $100, it sure does beat a smogable custom at $325 that'll make a mear 10-15RW more.
If you're gonna go custom make SURE the combo is done before buying the cam. A custom for an RPM intake will not be the same as one for a Victor intake. The same is true if the exhaust is also being changed.
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www.advancedenginedevelopment.com
SCT dealer
Dynotuning
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Posts: 4265 | From: Fair Oaks, CA | Registered: Nov 2000
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Jeff S
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Member # 371
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quote:
Originally posted by 93PONY:
The X is the best bang-for-the-buck smogable cam you can get. At $100, it sure does beat a smogable custom at $325 that'll make a mear 10-15RW more.
If you can gain an extra 10-15rwhp from spending an extra $225 that sounds like a GREAT deal to me. I don't know of many other mods you can do for $225 that will add that much HP.
[ February 01, 2004, 10:50 AM: Message edited by: Jeff S ]
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'90 Mustang LX: 8.53 @ 157.92 w/ 1.33 60' on DR's
'10 ZR1: FOR SALE
'14 E63 S: RENNtech ECU
'04 Gallardo: UGR TTG
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