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Tinner
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Originally posted by hidnn.o.s.:
Josh, I can assure you you'd be very surprised at how well the M/T drag radials hook! That way you don't have to worry about swapping tires at the track etc.
With the power this car has any 17" tire will take skills I don't have to launch at the track. I'm looking more to dropping the clutch @ 5000rpm , lifting the fronts and running 1.5 60's. For the street I will run a M/T or Hoosier DR's on a 10.5" wheel. I really don't mind changing tires at the track , it only takes 15mins and I wont have to worry about riding the clutch to get out of the hole.
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AED built
2.3 Whipple@17#s
605rwhp
580rwtq
10.71@131mph
now with a little more power it goes 135mph+ on 18" DRs
Posts: 835 | From: santa rosa | Registered: Apr 2003
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need-a-cage
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What tires were you running on Wednesday? I was out there in my LX. I was trying to run on my 245x50-16 Nittos, which are so hard to launch with lots of power. I was getting mid 1.8 60's and managed to make it to the 4th round. I hit the brakes every run and they all would have been under 11.50 if I didn't lift. I don't have a cage either. My first time trial was 11.53 @ 125.3mph. Then I spun like crazy in 1st and 2nd and went 11.92 @ 125mph (pitiful!) After that, the tires started to hook a little better and I just launched it really softly. My best pass was in the 4th round. I went 11.51 @ 108mph. That probably would have been in the 11.3's if I didn't lift. I had a .023 reaction to Mitchel
's .040, but he ran 11.635 on an 11.64 dial so I didn't have much room to play with. I hit the brakes and kept him at my rear bumper, but I was dialed 11.55 so I broke out by more than him. It was close!
Are you going to be back out there this week? I am curious to see if they let you run in the street class. I had to fight with them to drop the street class time limit to 11.50 from 12.00. They may make you run in Comp Rod.
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warhorse58gt
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Originally posted by hidnn.o.s.:
Josh, I can assure you you'd be very surprised at how well the M/T drag radials hook! That way you don't have to worry about swapping tires at the track etc.
mt drags hook on wet grass.. 1.44 60ft on a 235/60/15 mt dr.. the car has went 11.001 @123 on that same dr.. ![[patriot]](graemlins/patriot.gif)
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Tinner
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Originally posted by need-a-cage:
What tires were you running on Wednesday? I was out there in my LX. I was trying to run on my 245x50-16 Nittos, which are so hard to launch with lots of power. I was getting mid 1.8 60's and managed to make it to the 4th round. I hit the brakes every run and they all would have been under 11.50 if I didn't lift. I don't have a cage either. My first time trial was 11.53 @ 125.3mph. Then I spun like crazy in 1st and 2nd and went 11.92 @ 125mph (pitiful!) After that, the tires started to hook a little better and I just launched it really softly. My best pass was in the 4th round. I went 11.51 @ 108mph. That probably would have been in the 11.3's if I didn't lift. I had a .023 reaction to Mitchel
's .040, but he ran 11.635 on an 11.64 dial so I didn't have much room to play with. I hit the brakes and kept him at my rear bumper, but I was dialed 11.55 so I broke out by more than him. It was close!
Are you going to be back out there this week? I am curious to see if they let you run in the street class. I had to fight with them to drop the street class time limit to 11.50 from 12.00. They may make you run in Comp Rod.
I was on worn out BFG DR's , my best 60' was a 1.81 on the run I got on the brakes. They told me from now on to run in comp rod which it ok w/ me , it'll be fun to see a stock looking Mach run next to them.
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04 Comp. Orange mach 1
AED built
2.3 Whipple@17#s
605rwhp
580rwtq
10.71@131mph
now with a little more power it goes 135mph+ on 18" DRs
Posts: 835 | From: santa rosa | Registered: Apr 2003
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Tinner
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Originally posted by warhorse58gt:
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Originally posted by hidnn.o.s.:
Josh, I can assure you you'd be very surprised at how well the M/T drag radials hook! That way you don't have to worry about swapping tires at the track etc.
mt drags hook on wet grass.. 1.44 60ft on a 235/60/15 mt dr.. the car has went 11.001 @123 on that same dr..
The key to your 60's are the amount of side wall on a 15" DR , unless of have yellow GT it will be very had to repeat that w/ a 17" DR.
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04 Comp. Orange mach 1
AED built
2.3 Whipple@17#s
605rwhp
580rwtq
10.71@131mph
now with a little more power it goes 135mph+ on 18" DRs
Posts: 835 | From: santa rosa | Registered: Apr 2003
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Yellow94GT
Mr. 60 FT
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![[Razz]](tongue.gif)
lol
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1994 GT Bucket that will likely never run
1999 SLOLEEN Twin Turbo Coyote
2008 F250 580 RWHP 1129 RWTQ
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2stangs69-91
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Originally posted by Tinner:
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Originally posted by warhorse58gt:
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Originally posted by hidnn.o.s.:
Josh, I can assure you you'd be very surprised at how well the M/T drag radials hook! That way you don't have to worry about swapping tires at the track etc.
mt drags hook on wet grass.. 1.44 60ft on a 235/60/15 mt dr.. the car has went 11.001 @123 on that same dr..
The key to your 60's are the amount of side wall on a 15" DR , unless of have yellow GT it will be very had to repeat that w/ a 17" DR.
lol by your own words obviously it isn't the key ![[Eek!]](eek.gif) because he did it on a 18 with less side wall
[ March 24, 2008, 10:05 PM: Message edited by: 2stangs69-91 ]
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98slowhoe 'FIFTYLX'
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Josh, I ran the 17" MT DR and had a best 1.66 60ft. Those tires are some sweet tires. You should get some and try them out and you wouldn't have to switch tires out.
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Yellow94GT
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Originally posted by 98slowhoe 'FIFTYLX':
Josh, I ran the 17" MT DR and had a best 1.66 60ft. Those tires are some sweet tires. You should get some and try them out and you wouldn't have to switch tires out.
Your car wasn't making 580 RWTQ at 4000 RPM's either. It will be a cold day in hell for anything short of a full slick to actually "hook". Even with a full slick the suspension will have to be built and dialed in very well to get the kind of traction he wants.
Of all the setups you could run with, a high horsepower PDB application is one of the hardest to get to plant the tires without spinning them.
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1994 GT Bucket that will likely never run
1999 SLOLEEN Twin Turbo Coyote
2008 F250 580 RWHP 1129 RWTQ
Posts: 5990 | From: Cameron Park, Ca | Registered: Sep 2001
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93PONY
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28 x 10 x 15 Hoosier slicks are your best bet.
LOTS of sidewall to absorb the shock of all that TQ....& plenty of 'bite' to keep it hookin'......as long as the suspenssion can handle it.
Been running the MT DR's (275/50/16) on the wife's all-motor car as a street tire. Tried them at the dragstrip a few times. The difference was 2 tenths off the 60ft with full slicks vs the DR's. & that was with the 'Drew Mod'. Tires spin 2nd gear from a roll on the street no problem. Throw on the slicks & look out! It dead-hooks 2nd. Night & day difference from DR's to real slicks.
The TT is the same way. Won't hook on the 275/50/17 (28" tall DR's) M&H's in 2nd gear at any speed (even 80+mph). 2nd gear with a TH400 & 2.73 gears whines the motor to 6K RPM at 100MPH. 3rd hooks just fine. Throw the Hoosiers on there & the car hooks 2nd around 40-50mph.
M&H DR's are softer & hook better than MT's from my experience.....but still NOTHING compared to full slicks.
The M&H's do 1.7's in the TT consistantly. The smaller Hoosiers (26 x 10 x 15) are consistantly in the low 1.6's. Not as drastic of a difference as the same slicks to MT's, but still translates to 2-3 tenths in the 1/4.....AND a few extra MPH on the top end as they allow a harder launch & full throttle sooner.
A couple TNT's on the DR's & they really start to show some wear. 2 or 3 TNT's & the MT's were down to the wear bars due to the excessive burnouts needed to get these things to hook. The Hoosier slicks we run have well over 100 passes & have over 50% tread depth left.
If you want to run a DR at the strip.....the suspenssion will be setup a little different than with a full slick. Clutch needs to be dialed in (Tinner has the correct clutch setup) & launch technic is much different....& much harder on the clutch.
Don't get me wrong, those that run 1.4x 60fts on DR's are just plain BAD ASS...but they are not common. & given the choice between DR's & slicks at the dragstrip.....there's no question what I'd choose.
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