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Don
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"As for the 4.6 and heads/cam. Consider the 4.6 the same as the 5.0. Heads/cam/intake are ok for the 4.6 as well"
I would think that you would want to limit the DOHC 4.6 cars with stock cams and heads.
It will take a heads and cams GT to keep up with a blot-on Mach.
The bolt-on Mach is just as powerful as a LS1, and you are keeping them limited to stock heads and cams.
Just a thuoght.
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Posts: 962 | From: Manteca, CA | Registered: Feb 2002
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Some one please answer my question. 99 Cobra stock block with Vortech , off road X-pipe and Cat back still falls under the stock with 1 bolt on?
Posts: 2173 | From: Tracy, CA | Registered: May 2003
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Perry
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As for the 4.6 and heads/cam. Consider the 4.6 the same as the 5.0. Heads/cam/intake are ok for the 4.6 as well [/QB]
That is great news!!!! ![[dance]](graemlins/dance.gif)
I'll see ya at the track in my lil 2 valve!!! ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
Later friends,
Perry
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D river
Posts: 110 | From: Winnsboro, TX via Turlock Ca | Registered: Sep 2002
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93PONY
Mr. Valve Events
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Originally posted by 9Venom9:
Some one please answer my question. 99 Cobra stock block with Vortech , off road X-pipe and Cat back still falls under the stock with 1 bolt on?
That would be placed in the stock +1 power adder class.
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Posts: 4265 | From: Fair Oaks, CA | Registered: Nov 2000
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I have no interior so I'm getting bumped from stock w/1 power adder to stroker w/no power adder... I'm not sure if that's good or not. Wouldn't that put me up against the likes of team solo??? ![[Frown]](frown.gif)
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WHYT LIE
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This really is tough trying to keep everyone happy and make it as fair as possible.
So you're saying the 5.0 guys complain that the Chevy 350 (LT1/LS1) is too powerful to compete against because "we" are bigger, but then they can't even compete against the 4.6L mod for mod?
I wasn't aware that the 4.6 with equal mods would whip on a 5.0...
I'll talk to some more Ford guys and get this part nailed down...
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Originally posted by Don:
"As for the 4.6 and heads/cam. Consider the 4.6 the same as the 5.0. Heads/cam/intake are ok for the 4.6 as well"
I would think that you would want to limit the DOHC 4.6 cars with stock cams and heads.
It will take a heads and cams GT to keep up with a blot-on Mach.
The bolt-on Mach is just as powerful as a LS1, and you are keeping them limited to stock heads and cams.
Just a thuoght.
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WHYT LIE
'96 Camaro Z-28 (Artic White) hardtop 6-spd
10.78 @ 129mph 1.51 60ft
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'02 Corvette Z06 (Quicksilver)
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93PONY
Mr. Valve Events
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Originally posted by WHYT LIE:
This really is tough trying to keep everyone happy and make it as fair as possible.
So you're saying the 5.0 guys complain that the Chevy 350 (LT1/LS1) is too powerful to compete against because "we" are bigger, but then they can't even compete against the 4.6L mod for mod?
I wasn't aware that the 4.6 with equal mods would whip on a 5.0...
I'll talk to some more Ford guys and get this part nailed down...
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Originally posted by Don:
"As for the 4.6 and heads/cam. Consider the 4.6 the same as the 5.0. Heads/cam/intake are ok for the 4.6 as well"
I would think that you would want to limit the DOHC 4.6 cars with stock cams and heads.
It will take a heads and cams GT to keep up with a blot-on Mach.
The bolt-on Mach is just as powerful as a LS1, and you are keeping them limited to stock heads and cams.
Just a thuoght.
I wouldn't worry about it Brian.
Yes, a bolt-on 4.6 4V motor *can* go 11's at 115+MPH but that is definately NOT typical. Bob Cosby got a stock longblock/bolt-on 5.0 to run 11's.....NMRA Factory stock class runs mid 11's with stock longlocks/bolt ons, both modular & 5.0 motors.....but that doesn't mean we'll see it at Sac Raceway. Most bolt-on 4Vs will run in the 107-109mph range....which is right where most bolt-on LS1's will run. Yes, there will be those few that run a little harder then most, but I expect that on both sides.
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Posts: 4265 | From: Fair Oaks, CA | Registered: Nov 2000
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66 AC COBRA
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what about the safety askepct of the event
my car is leagl down to 10.00 and that is more than the car is good for
but what if a buddy of mine goes 9.99 in stock motor plus power adder, he has no cage or bar, will this dq him from winning
im guess yes but he just wanted me to check ![[patriot]](graemlins/patriot.gif)
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72 Vega - WCHRA Extreme 10.5
Posts: 6280 | From: Winters | Registered: Feb 2002
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Don
CAFords OG
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I was just saying that the 4.6 4v stuff has the good heads just like an LS1. And a 4.6 2v and a 5.0 both are limited to a bad stock head wich keeps us a little behind. If all the competion is in the 108mph area then I will be fine, but that means the LS1 and 4.6 DOHC crowd are not doing a very good job with their cars.
A guy here in Manteca had a bolt-on M6 99 LS1 that went 114mph, and most of the full bolt on Machs should do the same with a good driver. My GT on the other hand will need heads and cams to do that along with a 5.0.
Is there going to be qualifing? That way I can move to the brackets if the competion is going to be to much for me?
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Posts: 962 | From: Manteca, CA | Registered: Feb 2002
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Perry
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How about allowing fiberglass hoods in all classes??
The weight savings is minimal and alot of people (me included) have a custom hood!!
If not, I guess I can't run!! ![[Mad]](mad.gif)
Later friends,
Perry
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Posts: 110 | From: Winnsboro, TX via Turlock Ca | Registered: Sep 2002
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bunchmyfunky
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Why would there be any rules for the two bracket catagory's?
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stanger91
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Originally posted by Perry:
How about allowing fiberglass hoods in all classes??
The weight savings is minimal and alot of people (me included) have a custom hood!!
If not, I guess I can't run!!
Later friends,
Perry
Seeing as stock hoods on 94+ stangs are fiberglass I think they may have to overlook that rule..lol
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E.T 12.314@126.300
Posts: 778 | From: Sacramento, CA | Registered: Aug 2001
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The fiberglass hoods that are factory are allowed. Some of the WS6 hoods and SS hoods are composite/fiberglass as well.
The rules are there to keep people with major weight mods from competing in a class they would dominate. An aftermarket fiberglass hood for the sake of style or replacement will be overlooked and considered stock. But if you have a fiberglass dash, hatch, trunk, doors, etc... that won't do.
Also, if you don't fit specificially in your class, you will get bumped up one or two classes, such as motor swap cars, stripped/gutted interiors, etc.
Yes, there is qualifications from 6:00-8:00pm and then eliminations the rest of the night.
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WHYT LIE
'96 Camaro Z-28 (Artic White) hardtop 6-spd
10.78 @ 129mph 1.51 60ft
ZO SIC
'02 Corvette Z06 (Quicksilver)
11.88 @ 121.6mph 1.97 60ft
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Originally posted by 66 AC COBRA:
what about the safety askepct of the event
my car is leagl down to 10.00 and that is more than the car is good for
but what if a buddy of mine goes 9.99 in stock motor plus power adder, he has no cage or bar, will this dq him from winning
im guess yes but he just wanted me to check
We would hope that nobody will try and sandbag and run faster then they are "teched" for, but it may happen. If it does happen, they will be DQed. I do not want the track looking down on us as a club or an event promoter for people doing this, and risking then not signing a contract with us in the future.
So, if he runs faster then his tech allows on his first run he will be told to SIDOPI (slow it down or park it) and if he does it again, he will be asked to leave.
And what kind of car will run 9's with a stock motor and power adder?
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WHYT LIE
'96 Camaro Z-28 (Artic White) hardtop 6-spd
10.78 @ 129mph 1.51 60ft
ZO SIC
'02 Corvette Z06 (Quicksilver)
11.88 @ 121.6mph 1.97 60ft
Posts: 113 | From: Lincoln, CA | Registered: Aug 2005
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66 AC COBRA
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Originally posted by WHYT LIE:
quote:
Originally posted by 66 AC COBRA:
what about the safety askepct of the event
my car is leagl down to 10.00 and that is more than the car is good for
but what if a buddy of mine goes 9.99 in stock motor plus power adder, he has no cage or bar, will this dq him from winning
im guess yes but he just wanted me to check
We would hope that nobody will try and sandbag and run faster then they are "teched" for, but it may happen. If it does happen, they will be DQed. I do not want the track looking down on us as a club or an event promoter for people doing this, and risking then not signing a contract with us in the future.
So, if he runs faster then his tech allows on his first run he will be told to SIDOPI (slow it down or park it) and if he does it again, he will be asked to leave.
And what kind of car will run 9's with a stock motor and power adder?
may run 9's, but it doesnt even have a bar, sucks for him, good for my chances
think of it this way, what would an all forged stock ci LS1 run with ported heads or the like, cam, lsx intake, and a big turbo, with a built tranny with a brake, all it needs is full interior and no extreme lightening
its all an internet war, but there are a few turbo mustangs i know of that have full interior, no glass fenders, 351 or under displacement, and fit into the stock motor rules, that run in the 8's
yes its not the idea of the race but it does fall into the rules
either way i am gonna run in stock motor plus power adders, i just hope its not a mid 10 class, which it could very easily be
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Posts: 6280 | From: Winters | Registered: Feb 2002
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I just wish it wasnt bracket racing, I hate bracket, I always run for my best time so I never get good at bracket racing lol
Posts: 2173 | From: Tracy, CA | Registered: May 2003
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Perry
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Just curious as to what times will it take to win the stock class??
What was the best ET last year in this class?
later friends,
Perry
Posts: 110 | From: Winnsboro, TX via Turlock Ca | Registered: Sep 2002
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TRIXSNK
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Originally posted by Perry:
Just curious as to what times will it take to win the stock class??
What was the best ET last year in this class?
later friends,
Perry
Great ?
I'd be interesting in knowing what won in each class last year as well. ![[Cool]](cool.gif)
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So in the stock motor class... Ford 03/04 cobra cat back add on only.. Does that mean no K&N drop in?
Posts: 46 | From: NorCal | Registered: Oct 2004
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Originally posted by Lonewolf:
So in the stock motor class... Ford 03/04 cobra cat back add on only.. Does that mean no K&N drop in?
YES SIR thats EXACTLY what it means
Dame
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Wildfire532FB
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Our Cobra won't have the procharger back on until after this event. We will be going to support john91coupe if he has decided to go.
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Just as a suggestion a street class would be cool with the rules consisting of current registration,drag radials,pump gas,no stripped cars "full weight", and must be driven to the track "not trailered". Much thanks to those who set this event up, sounds like alot of work!! Hopefully My car will be out of the tranny shop early enough to get My methanol kit installed and tuned. Either way i will be there, should be a great night. ![[burnout]](graemlins/burnout.gif)
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Right now doesnt look like I can get Saturday off from work, for some reason I thought this was on a Sunday, so for now I am out unless I can pull something off.
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Originally posted by 9Venom9:
I just wish it wasnt bracket racing, I hate bracket, I always run for my best time so I never get good at bracket racing lol
There are 8 classes and only 3 are bracket racing. Everything else is heads up...
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WHYT LIE
'96 Camaro Z-28 (Artic White) hardtop 6-spd
10.78 @ 129mph 1.51 60ft
ZO SIC
'02 Corvette Z06 (Quicksilver)
11.88 @ 121.6mph 1.97 60ft
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