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WHYT LIE
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All classes must retain stock style suspension, retain full interior and body work (no lexan, fiberglass and carbon fiber allowed) and may run ANY tire. (Outlaw is exempt from these rules as they will follow PSCA Outlaw 10.5W class rules.)
Bracket I 11.49 and quicker $200 to winner, $100 to RU
Bracket II 11.50 and slower $100 to winner, $50 to RU
Truck Bracket $100 to winner, $50 to RU
Stock Motor $100 to winner, $50 to RU
Chevy Rules: All bolt ons allowed, stock motor internals. Stock cam and heads required.
Ford Rules: All bolt ons allowed, 302 with heads/cam/intake allowed.
'03/'04 Cobra: STOCK '03/'04 Cobra with catback exhaust ONLY.
Stock Motor + 1 Power Adder $200 to winner, $100 to RU
Chevy Rules: 346"/350" with overbore allowed and aftermarket internals (basically, stock CI.) All bolts ons allowed, heads/cam/intake allowed.
Ford Rules: 331/347/351 Ford allowed with aftermarket internals. All bolt ons allowed, heads/cam/intake allowed.
'03/'04 Cobra: All bolt ons allowed.
Stroker Motor NA $200 to winner $100 to RU
Chevy Rules: Must be based on original EFI motor (LS1/LS6/LS2/LT1/LT4/LT5/L98/etc) All bolt ons, heads/cam/intake, aftermarket internals, no CI displacement limit.
Ford Rules: Must be based on original EFI motor (5.0/351/FordModMotor/LC2/etc) All bolt ons, heads/cam/intake, aftermarket internals, no CI displacement limit.
Stroker Motor + 1 Power Adder $300 to winner $150 to RU
Chevy Rules: Same as Stroker Motor NA with one power adder.
Ford Rules: Same as Stroker Motor NA with one power adder.
"Power Adder" description: Nitrous (multiple stages) = 1 power adder. Turbo (single or twin) = 1 power adder. Supercharger or blower = 1 power adder.
Outlaw $500 to winner $250 to RU
Same as PSCA Outlaw 10.5W rules.
Jackpot Race $20 entry fee. Heads Up Winner Takes All. OUTLAW class not allowed. Multiple power adders, any tire, etc.
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WHYT LIE
'96 Camaro Z-28 (Artic White) hardtop 6-spd
10.78 @ 129mph 1.51 60ft
ZO SIC
'02 Corvette Z06 (Quicksilver)
11.88 @ 121.6mph 1.97 60ft
Posts: 113 | From: Lincoln, CA | Registered: Aug 2005
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WHYT LIE
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Norcal Shootout 2005
Sept 10th, 2005
Sacramento Raceway Park
6:00pm-11:00pm
$10 entry fee (PER PERSON)
$45 for tech card (This means it is $55 for car and driver...)
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WHYT LIE
'96 Camaro Z-28 (Artic White) hardtop 6-spd
10.78 @ 129mph 1.51 60ft
ZO SIC
'02 Corvette Z06 (Quicksilver)
11.88 @ 121.6mph 1.97 60ft
Posts: 113 | From: Lincoln, CA | Registered: Aug 2005
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66 AC COBRA
Nitrous King
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stock motor + one power adder sounds like my cup of tea ![[worship]](graemlins/worship.gif)
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72 Vega - WCHRA Extreme 10.5
Posts: 6280 | From: Winters | Registered: Feb 2002
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Yellow94GT
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Thanks for posting Brian.
To everyone else, lets try and make a good Ford turnout this year to make up for last years no show on the Ford side! ![[patriot]](graemlins/patriot.gif) ![[burnout]](graemlins/burnout.gif)
These guys are going all out to have a good race. Lets go and support the Northern Califonia Racing scene. ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
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1999 SLOLEEN Twin Turbo Coyote
2008 F250 580 RWHP 1129 RWTQ
Posts: 5990 | From: Cameron Park, Ca | Registered: Sep 2001
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i might try the stock motor class, if not i'm definitely down to drink some beers and watch ![[Whoo Whooooo!]](graemlins/woowoo.gif)
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John91coupe
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Are back seats required for Stroker motor + Power adder?
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D-2R ProCharged R302 331
1.410 60 ft.
5.784 @ 122.92 1/8
8.953 @ 155.08
MM&FF Feature June 2003
Posts: 1361 | From: Grass Valley, CA | Registered: Sep 2000
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WHYT LIE
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See the other post for the reply about the rear seats. Basically we don't want any sheet metal showing. If the Mustang has carpet under there, then good.
Also, we are going to try and get folks to head up to Octane Motorsports/Motorsports Lounge after the track to bench race, brag and drink some beers. They are one of the sponsors and it is a cool place to hang out. They serve sandwhiches, hot dogs, soon to have Mountain Mikes pizza, fries, buffalo wings, chicken strips, etc. Monster beers for reasonable prices, etc. Besides, they don't close until 2:00am on Fri/Sat night. Where else can we all go to hang out that late and not get in trouble?
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WHYT LIE
'96 Camaro Z-28 (Artic White) hardtop 6-spd
10.78 @ 129mph 1.51 60ft
ZO SIC
'02 Corvette Z06 (Quicksilver)
11.88 @ 121.6mph 1.97 60ft
Posts: 113 | From: Lincoln, CA | Registered: Aug 2005
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John91coupe
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Thanks, replied in other thread.
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D-2R ProCharged R302 331
1.410 60 ft.
5.784 @ 122.92 1/8
8.953 @ 155.08
MM&FF Feature June 2003
Posts: 1361 | From: Grass Valley, CA | Registered: Sep 2000
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66 AC COBRA
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will there be any "qualifing" runs before the runs that count, so it wont be a guessing game as to how well the track is working, or if my car is working ![[Frown]](frown.gif)
I went last year (carless) but dont remember the setup
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FFR AC Cobra
72 Vega - WCHRA Extreme 10.5
Posts: 6280 | From: Winters | Registered: Feb 2002
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twisted54
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So then regardless of how slow my car is, I will have to run the outlaw class because I have no interior...right? I believe so.
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2013 Black on Black 5.0 with Boost N Things - CORN FED 🌽
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66 AC COBRA
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and in stock motor + power adder
it says aftermarket internals, does that mean aftermarket blocks are ok, or would that put you in stroker
not for me, just seeing if john91coupe will be able to run my class, because if he is i will just be cruising cause it wont matter much
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FFR AC Cobra
72 Vega - WCHRA Extreme 10.5
Posts: 6280 | From: Winters | Registered: Feb 2002
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twisted54
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Originally posted by 66 AC COBRA:
and in stock motor + power adder
it says aftermarket internals, does that mean aftermarket blocks are ok, or would that put you in stroker
That's cool but it also says the following for the classes: retain full interior and body work (no lexan, fiberglass and carbon fiber allowed)
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66 AC COBRA
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Originally posted by twstd5.4:
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Originally posted by 66 AC COBRA:
and in stock motor + power adder
it says aftermarket internals, does that mean aftermarket blocks are ok, or would that put you in stroker
That's cool but it also says the following for the classes: retain full interior and body work (no lexan, fiberglass and carbon fiber allowed)
look at the post times tony, i was writing that befor you hit the reply button, makes more sense if u read my first post then skip your post
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FFR AC Cobra
72 Vega - WCHRA Extreme 10.5
Posts: 6280 | From: Winters | Registered: Feb 2002
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Hmm, aftermarket blocks.... see, us GM guys don't have any aftermarket blocks for the LT1 or LS1 style motors, so we are at a disadvantage there. But then again, cubic inches are cubic inches. So if he is based on a stock CI (or for Ford, a small stroke that fits in the rules) he should be allowed into that class even with an aftermarket block.
We want this to be a fun event, and it won't be too fun if a car DOMINATES the field. It would be nice for that car/driver to step up to the next class for more competition.
As for engine swap cars and kit cars... Well those would be dropped into Outlaw as they don't really fit into the other classes. I think that will be a case by case basis.
As for any runs before the eliminations. Of course, there will be some time trials. Both to "feel out the track" and for the bracket folks to find their dial in.
Time trials will be from 6:00pm-8:00pm or so. Then eliminations will go from there.
If there is time during eliminations, we will also offer a "loser" lane or a grudge lane where you can line up with someone to race. This will not be a promised amount of runs, but when we have time between classes or downtime.
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WHYT LIE
'96 Camaro Z-28 (Artic White) hardtop 6-spd
10.78 @ 129mph 1.51 60ft
ZO SIC
'02 Corvette Z06 (Quicksilver)
11.88 @ 121.6mph 1.97 60ft
Posts: 113 | From: Lincoln, CA | Registered: Aug 2005
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66 AC COBRA
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Originally posted by WHYT LIE:
Hmm, aftermarket blocks.... see, us GM guys don't have any aftermarket blocks for the LT1 or LS1 style motors, so we are at a disadvantage there. But then again, cubic inches are cubic inches. So if he is based on a stock CI (or for Ford, a small stroke that fits in the rules) he should be allowed into that class even with an aftermarket block.
We want this to be a fun event, and it won't be too fun if a car DOMINATES the field. It would be nice for that car/driver to step up to the next class for more competition.
As for engine swap cars and kit cars... Well those would be dropped into Outlaw as they don't really fit into the other classes. I think that will be a case by case basis.
As for any runs before the eliminations. Of course, there will be some time trials. Both to "feel out the track" and for the bracket folks to find their dial in.
Time trials will be from 6:00pm-8:00pm or so. Then eliminations will go from there.
If there is time during eliminations, we will also offer a "loser" lane or a grudge lane where you can line up with someone to race. This will not be a promised amount of runs, but when we have time between classes or downtime.
well the ls1 block can also take more than 600hp, bastards ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
thanks for clearing that up, and i dont think john would try and race stock motor poweradder unless he really has his heart set on that $200
but if he does, im not racin him
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FFR AC Cobra
72 Vega - WCHRA Extreme 10.5
Posts: 6280 | From: Winters | Registered: Feb 2002
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So I am guessing a 99 Cobra witha Vortech would fall under Stock Motor + 1 Power Adder ?
Posts: 2173 | From: Tracy, CA | Registered: May 2003
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Who knows where I'll fall in. I'll be there and the car is running excellent. All N02 issues resolved ![[dance]](graemlins/dance.gif)
I definitely sense a new personal best comin' ....14 flat ![[Razz]](tongue.gif)
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Posts: 2120 | From: Pleasanton | Registered: Nov 2004
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stockishlx
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i'll be there running the stock motor class, when or lose its fun guys.
i'll be there representing one of the sponcers.
[ August 18, 2005, 12:07 PM: Message edited by: stockishlx ]
Posts: 75 | From: bay area | Registered: Jul 2005
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93PONY
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There's no real advantage to an aftermarket block aside from it can handle more power. However, it is heavier then a stock block. IMO the Dart/FRPP blocks are comparable to the LS1 6.0L Iron block (if swapped into an F-body or Vette) as they *can* handle 1000hp when prepped correctly & also carry an extra 75lbs or so over an aluminum LS1 block. I don't believe many will be pushing 1000hp at this event...so it shouldn't be a problem.
As for the stock LS1 blocks handling 600hp, this is true, however most stock shortblock LS1's can not push much over 500RW without running into serious problems such as block distortion, rings butting up due to close tolerances which crack ring lands, etc. The vast majority of the aluminum LS1's are limited to 500RWHP reliably....just like the good 'ol 5.0.
Damn....I wish one of our cars was up & running so we could race!
Brian,
Not able to find a sponsor for the Heads & Cam N/A LS1 class?
-Shaun
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Posts: 4265 | From: Fair Oaks, CA | Registered: Nov 2000
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It was hard enough finding sponsors for the classes we have now. Next year will bring a heads/cam, or bolt on with cam class I hope.
Thanks again for helping iron out the rules and making this as fair a race as possible.
As for the backseat delete on the Mustang. 10-11lbs is nothing, so as long as it is covered and looks good, you're good to go. BTW, CLEAN looking Mustang. I still couldn't drive it, but damned clean.
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WHYT LIE
'96 Camaro Z-28 (Artic White) hardtop 6-spd
10.78 @ 129mph 1.51 60ft
ZO SIC
'02 Corvette Z06 (Quicksilver)
11.88 @ 121.6mph 1.97 60ft
Posts: 113 | From: Lincoln, CA | Registered: Aug 2005
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Originally posted by WHYT LIE:
It was hard enough finding sponsors for the classes we have now. Next year will bring a heads/cam, or bolt on with cam class I hope.
Thanks again for helping iron out the rules and making this as fair a race as possible.
As for the backseat delete on the Mustang. 10-11lbs is nothing, so as long as it is covered and looks good, you're good to go. BTW, CLEAN looking Mustang. I still couldn't drive it, but damned clean.
Count me in on the action guys!
Stock motor + 1 power adder baby
1 ? though i know the backseat delete was covered but what if i need to pull the front seat for sticking extra wheels in the ride to swap out?
The car will retain all carpet so no bare metal showin......is that OK?
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New project in the works.......
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Stock Motor $100 to winner, $50 to RU
Chevy Rules: All bolt ons allowed, stock motor internals. Stock cam and heads required.
Ford Rules: All bolt ons allowed, 302 with heads/cam/intake allowed.
'03/'04 Cobra: STOCK '03/'04 Cobra with catback exhaust ONLY.
How about stock 4.6 GT's. Can we atleast get Heads/Cams with a stock shortblock.
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As for the front seats, both are required... I'm sure you can fit 4 tires into a Mustang if you had to without removing the seats. I could fit 8 tires into my Camaro with all my seats in it...
As for the 4.6 and heads/cam. Consider the 4.6 the same as the 5.0. Heads/cam/intake are ok for the 4.6 as well
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WHYT LIE
'96 Camaro Z-28 (Artic White) hardtop 6-spd
10.78 @ 129mph 1.51 60ft
ZO SIC
'02 Corvette Z06 (Quicksilver)
11.88 @ 121.6mph 1.97 60ft
Posts: 113 | From: Lincoln, CA | Registered: Aug 2005
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66 AC COBRA
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Originally posted by TRIXSNK:
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Originally posted by WHYT LIE:
It was hard enough finding sponsors for the classes we have now. Next year will bring a heads/cam, or bolt on with cam class I hope.
Thanks again for helping iron out the rules and making this as fair a race as possible.
As for the backseat delete on the Mustang. 10-11lbs is nothing, so as long as it is covered and looks good, you're good to go. BTW, CLEAN looking Mustang. I still couldn't drive it, but damned clean.
Count me in on the action guys!
Stock motor + 1 power adder baby
1 ? though i know the backseat delete was covered but what if i need to pull the front seat for sticking extra wheels in the ride to swap out?
The car will retain all carpet so no bare metal showin......is that OK?
just unbolt the front pass seat and move it to a different place in the car, then put wheels in
sounds stupid to bolt a seat back in for a race, but if that is the rules then so be it
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FFR AC Cobra
72 Vega - WCHRA Extreme 10.5
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