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Originally posted by t-top50:
Cobraracer46, you really should stop. You're only making yourself look dumb.

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Originally posted by SIC9250:
my boy comin in this bitch with knowledge!!! I totally didnt think of that car cobraracer used for his example as having LOW ass numbers,with kooks it didnt even make over 320rw or 300ftlbs OUCH!!

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Ahah you already know bro

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Originally posted by Broke4.6:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5nmunjU9nk

that guy made 331 rwhp and 327rwtq

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqpCpAXfRoE

that guy made 311rwhp and 322 rwtq


what im trying to say is those numbers are obviously based off a conservative tune or no tune and then someone puts it on blast for people like yerself to believe it and tell ppl about it!

basically, you dont know what kind of tune was on that car when he did these tests so why talk like you were there, lol yer thread is whack , longtubes are provin man for YEARS!!!!

do you see racecars with shorts?? no!! why do you think? cause they put down power!!!

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It does not matter what kind of "tune" was inside that 1999 Cobra that had the JBA headers replaced with Kooks long tubes. What is important for the sake of comparison is the fact that all the variables were the same. The only change was swapping the headers. If you don't know anything about variables and repeatability that you probably flunked your High School science classes.

When the Shorty headers on the 1999 were swapped over to long tubes, the only thing that was changed were the headers. Everything else was the same and the result was only a 2 horse power increase.

The excuse of " it needs to tuning to make the best power" is invalid. If the Kooks long tube header or any long tube header for that matter truly did make more power than shorties, than It would do so with out "tuning".

Shorty headers on a F1 race engine.


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Originally posted by SIC9250:
..what broke4.6 was ultimately reffering to was the fact that the cobra you used for your argument is a tired worn out DOHC an couldn't even make more than 310rw WITH kooks and full bolt-ons,no wonder it only lost 2 rw with shorties the car don't make power with any headers cause of A:the tune or B:the cars tired and cant make power to save itself...

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Originally posted by SIC9250:
..what broke4.6 was ultimately reffering to was the fact that the cobra you used for your argument is a tired worn out DOHC an couldn't even make more than 310rw WITH kooks and full bolt-ons,no wonder it only lost 2 rw with shorties the car don't make power with any headers cause of A:the tune or B:the cars tired and cant make power to save itself...

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Nowhere in the JBA to Kooks header swap did the BOB Cosby, the NMRA racer and owner of the 1999 Cobra state that the engine was tired.
What kind of fool would swap out shorty headers for long tube headers on a tired engine and expect a horse power increase?
Your argument about a tired engine being responsible for the minimal increase in HP from the long tube header swap makes no sense.

Your "tune" argument also makes no sense. If the shorty headers are so bad then shurly the long tubes will make more power with with everything else being equal but the numbers show that long tube headers are not better than Shorties when it comes to power production. No tuning in the world would have helped the Kooks headers make more power over the JBA headers.

You have to ask your self, If you added timing and took away fuel after swapping to long tubes, it could be possible to gain a hair more power, but you could do the same thing with the JBA headers on the car. The point about the tune hurting power on the KOOKS headers is invalid; Not what people with long tube headers like to hear, but those are the facts.

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..what broke4.6 was ultimately reffering to was the fact that the cobra you used for your argument is a tired worn out DOHC an couldn't even make more than 310rw WITH kooks and full bolt-ons,no wonder it only lost 2 rw with shorties the car don't make power with any headers cause of A:the tune or B:the cars tired and cant make power to save itself...

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Nowhere in the JBA to Kooks header swap did the BOB Cosby, the NMRA racer and owner of the 1999 Cobra state that the engine was tired.
What kind of fool would swap out shorty headers for long tube headers on a tired engine and expect a horse power increase?
Your argument about a tired engine being responsible for the minimal increase in HP from the long tube header swap makes no sense.

Your "tune" argument also makes no sense. If the shorty headers are so bad then shurly the long tubes will make more power with with everything else being equal but the numbers show that long tube headers are not better than Shorties when it comes to power production. No tuning in the world would have helped the Kooks headers make more power over the JBA headers.

You have to ask your self, If you added timing and took away fuel after swapping to long tubes, it could be possible to gain a hair more power, but you could do the same thing with the JBA headers on the car. The point about the tune hurting power on the KOOKS headers is invalid; Not what people with long tube headers like to hear, but those are the facts.

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Originally posted by Broke4.6:
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i hope i get to meet you one day cobraracer46 lol just so i can see what kind of guy you are! i bet you drive a fuckin prius when your not in your SMOG legal cobra

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Nothing wrong with a Prius, but when I'm not behind the wheel of my smog legal Cobra, I ride a bicycle.

By the way, I hope I don't ever get to meet you in person.

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