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Originally posted by graylx:
Well, maybe we can all be rational and not emotional when breaking this down.

1. The suspect was not kicked in the face as people claim. The person recording remarked verbally that he was kicked in the chest. After the suspect was kicked, he reached for his chest, not for his face. If you've ever been struck in the face, you would know your first reaction would be not to reach for your shoulder.

2. The suspect's left hand was at his side, near his waistband. The suspect's clothing was loose and baggy (surprise) which can conceal weapons. The suspect was uncooperative, demonstrated by his yelling, and was literally twice the size of the officer.

The police officer likely leaned down to check if the suspect had any weapons, but it is more than likely difficult to tell if the suspect is wearing loose clothing. If he was wearing spandex, probably would be a little easier. Apparently, that is not hardcore, however.

3. Although the kick looks somewhat brutal, one can articulate the lawfulness of the kick out of purposes of officer safety. If the officer reasonably believed the uncooperative subject could retrieve a weapon from his loose and baggy clothing, thus endangering his safety as well as bystanders, he would be justified in the kick to determine if there was anything concealed on the right side of his waistband. We see the left side of the suspect's body in the video, but we don't see the right side, which is almost flush to the chainlink fence.

4. You see the officer constantly adjust his position, relative to the bystanders when you watch the video. There are at least several people there telling the suspect that he is going to get paid. In case any one has any difficulty with the concept, maybe they are not on the officer's side.

The officer cannot read their minds; if he could he would probably be pulling down alot more money doing something else.

So in summary, you have a hostile suspect who resisted enough to justify use of a taser and mace at your feet, and three or four "unfriendlies" hovering around behind you. Sounds like the recipe for success. What if one of the unfriendlies is armed? What if one of them decides to help their friend, because well, FTP! The officer is an a bad position. Any of you with street smarts can at least recognize that, cause I doubt you'd want to have several unfriendlies at your back.

5. We didn't see what happened immediately preceding the video, but it is possible something kinda serious happened to justify use of mace and/or taser.

6. Most people are not educated when it comes to the laws of arrest or their rights. Doesn't hurt to learn them.

Also doesn't hurt to be respectful to the police.
Now, I know many will argue that respect is earned. Alright, there's probably alot of truth to that.

But you can best be assured that any officer will have a healthy respect for a person in possession of a gun, because the officer realizes the inherent danger the other person could pose. Yet people enjoy running their mouths to police, who apparently possess guns. But it's part of the job right?

So, I don't really understand the disconnect here. Put another way: try not to piss off ARMED people. It's kind of a good general rule to live by.

7. The officers slammed the suspect on the hood. Who's to say he didn't nut up? Point is, we all aren't there. You have probably a 120 degree field of vision out of that camera. You didn't have to "escort" the suspect to the car, so you could not feel whether or not the person is tensing up.

You don't think a suspect can pose a threat while handcuffed? Some still try to break away and run. Some conceal keys. Some like to headbutt, some like to spit. Don't think many of you would take kindly to someone with the HIV or hepatitis spitting at you. It's hard to evaluate because none of us are there.

8. It's easy to sit back and judge, you have the convenience of doing so from the comfort of your chair behind a key board, while you snack on popcorn. The problem is most of these type of incidents happen very quickly, and then you'll have bystanders, the media, your own employer, and attorneys digesting and breaking down what happened in a split-second over days or months.

With all this being said, I wasn't there, so it's hard to completely judge. If the officers were being indiscriminately brutal for no reason, then they should be punished accordingly.

However, if there is a justifiable and legitimate reason for their actions, I don't think people should be so quick to judge in an emotional manner.

Maybe people empathize with the suspect when they watch such a video because they believe they have been treated poorly by the police in the past.

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Originally posted by AL STOCK:
Really?

Explain this

http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhsPsqo4EnhtDgXpEP

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Originally posted by AL STOCK:
Really?

Explain this

http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhsPsqo4EnhtDgXpEP

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Originally posted by AL STOCK:
Really?

Explain this

http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhsPsqo4EnhtDgXpEP

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