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Camara90
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So I took my car down to my buddys shop to get a pre smog today, and it passed without any problems. Here are the numbers.
HC-023 C0-00.00 NOX- 131 c02-14.1 02-1.9 AFR-15.7
So I go to a TEST only station because thats where I have to go, and they wont smog it because of the GT40 Intake. Says it needs a CARB EO number stamnped on it even though its a ford part. I hate California, just another way for them to rip us and part manufactures off. Who gives a shit about the part, shit passes the sniffer!!!
Thats my rant for the day! [ December 11, 2010, 07:29 PM: Message edited by: Camara90 ]
-------------------- 92GT,stock short block,9:1 TFS 170's,perf rpm,custom cam,1 5/8 shorties,C4 trans. std. 356hp, 350tq 11.85@111.9mph on motor.
Posts: 2351 | From: 707 | Registered: Jan 2001
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Luke87GT
Lay'n more stripes than Caltrans
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Smog is a good thing, but it is a travesty the way the state of CA carries out smog testing. Absolutely outrage imho.
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1SLOWLX
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that sucks
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BIGBALLFACTOR
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quote: Originally posted by Camara90: So I took my car down to my buddys shop to get a pre smog today, and it passed without any problems. Here are the numbers.
HC-023 C0-00.00 NOX- 131 c02-14.1 02-1.9 AFR-15.7
So I go to a TEST only station because thats where I have to go, and they wont smog it because of the GT40 Intake. Says it needs a CARB EO number stamnped on it even though its a ford part. I hate California, just another way for them to rip us and part manufactures off. Who gives a shit about the part, shit passes the sniffer!!!
Thats my rant for the day!
your car running lean
Posts: 6908 | From: okc | Registered: Dec 2006
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Camara90
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Plugs look good.
-------------------- 92GT,stock short block,9:1 TFS 170's,perf rpm,custom cam,1 5/8 shorties,C4 trans. std. 356hp, 350tq 11.85@111.9mph on motor.
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BIGBALLFACTOR
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your afr is off it's on the lean side
Posts: 6908 | From: okc | Registered: Dec 2006
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Camara90
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Maybe its just Part Throttle.
-------------------- 92GT,stock short block,9:1 TFS 170's,perf rpm,custom cam,1 5/8 shorties,C4 trans. std. 356hp, 350tq 11.85@111.9mph on motor.
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stangin'
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try a different station.
Posts: 2993 | From: Bay Area | Registered: Oct 2001
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Camara90
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I tried two Stations, I think without the factory GT40 tubular cover it looks to aftermarket for these fools. I might just go grab a explorer upper and strap it on, just stupid to have to go through all this shit, when it passes for emission. Its shit like this that makes me want to leave this fucking state.
-------------------- 92GT,stock short block,9:1 TFS 170's,perf rpm,custom cam,1 5/8 shorties,C4 trans. std. 356hp, 350tq 11.85@111.9mph on motor.
Posts: 2351 | From: 707 | Registered: Jan 2001
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Luke87GT
Lay'n more stripes than Caltrans
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quote: Originally posted by Camara90: Its shit like this that makes me want to leave this fucking state.
Agreed. This particular topic of visual failure has been getting under my skin for years.
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Posts: 7802 | From: San Mateo | Registered: Jul 2000
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Wildfire532FB
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California should only care if the vehicle passes the sniffer test nothing else. The visual inspection is a complete joke
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91Trunkster
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quote: Originally posted by Camara90: I tried two Stations, I think without the factory GT40 tubular cover it looks to aftermarket for these fools. I might just go grab a explorer upper and strap it on, just stupid to have to go through all this shit, when it passes for emission. Its shit like this that makes me want to leave this fucking state.
Why would you want to leave the state over some smog bullshit, you'd find 10 other more important things to bitch about living in some other state that you'd not be able to do there that you can here. I understand your frustration but it's not that serious now or is it? I can just see the conversation now, "What brings you to Montana?" I don't have to smog my Mustang over here, duh. [ December 11, 2010, 10:36 PM: Message edited by: Trunkster ]
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bigjerry
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quote: Originally posted by Trunkster: quote: Originally posted by Camara90: I tried two Stations, I think without the factory GT40 tubular cover it looks to aftermarket for these fools. I might just go grab a explorer upper and strap it on, just stupid to have to go through all this shit, when it passes for emission. Its shit like this that makes me want to leave this fucking state.
Why would you want to leave the state over some smog bullshit, you'd find 10 other more important things to bitch about living in some other state that you'd not be able to do there that you can here. I understand your frustration but it's not that serious now or is it? I can just see the conversation now, "What brings you to Montana?" I don't have to smog my Mustang over here, duh.
LMAO
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Posts: 433 | From: Sacramento | Registered: Sep 2005
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2T0NE
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Fuck smog...
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Posts: 14676 | From: 760 carlsbad | Registered: Mar 2004
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Pumpkin_Notch
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quote: Originally posted by WildFire532FB: California should only care if the vehicle passes the sniffer test nothing else. The visual inspection is a complete joke
100% agree
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Posts: 2790 | From: RICHMOND/sanpablo | Registered: Dec 2003
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asskickn88
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Those assholes are wrong, I researched this not too long ago and there is no CARB number for intake manifolds. If they have an EGR then its considered a stock replacement and isn't required. Print that off the DMV website and take it into a smog station. They just worry because all the bullshit sting operations CARB is doing to all the shops they just automatically turn people away if there's any chance they could get busted.
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Posts: 6069 | From: Rocklin, Ca | Registered: Oct 2004
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Blind
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quote: Originally posted by asskickn88: Those assholes are wrong, I researched this not too long ago and there is no CARB number for intake manifolds. If they have an EGR then its considered a stock replacement and isn't required. Print that off the DMV website and take it into a smog station. They just worry because all the bullshit sting operations CARB is doing to all the shops they just automatically turn people away if there's any chance they could get busted.
+1 same way it works for an edelbrock intake.
-------------------- 89 LX Notchback ex 4cyl, 14psi 02 Harley F150, 15psi
Posts: 8521 | From: Fairfield | Registered: Jul 2003
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50 Deep
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Go on to yearone.com or the CARB/ARB website. Year one should have the carb info on their site. Also the ARB site should have a listing of all the aftermarket parts for vehicles which are compliant. The GT-40 is one of them. Do some research and you will find the info you need. Don't let someone elses lack of knowledge slow you down. You should always get that info ready before you go into a smog station.
Posts: 6043 | From: sacramento | Registered: Nov 2005
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Camara90
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quote: Originally posted by Trunkster: quote: Originally posted by Camara90: I tried two Stations, I think without the factory GT40 tubular cover it looks to aftermarket for these fools. I might just go grab a explorer upper and strap it on, just stupid to have to go through all this shit, when it passes for emission. Its shit like this that makes me want to leave this fucking state.
Why would you want to leave the state over some smog bullshit, you'd find 10 other more important things to bitch about living in some other state that you'd not be able to do there that you can here. I understand your frustration but it's not that serious now or is it? I can just see the conversation now, "What brings you to Montana?" I don't have to smog my Mustang over here, duh.
I didnt say it was just smog shit, exact words was shit like this. This is just icing on the cake. They want to take away our guns, make it were we cant buy aftermarket parts for our cars, have to buy factory replacement cats, cant talk on the phone while driving but women can put on makeup, read, and do their hair. Cant have gas pumps that hold the lever, have to go to lunch before 5 hours at work, high ass taxes, additional taxes on shit I buy like TV's, no gambling, the fact that our State has 30 million for people to get rebates for buying Appliances, but my kids dont have books at school. The price of houses, traffic, shity roads etc.... I am sure their are a ton more things, but these are just some I can think of at the moment.
-------------------- 92GT,stock short block,9:1 TFS 170's,perf rpm,custom cam,1 5/8 shorties,C4 trans. std. 356hp, 350tq 11.85@111.9mph on motor.
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Camara90
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quote: Originally posted by asskickn88: Those assholes are wrong, I researched this not too long ago and there is no CARB number for intake manifolds. If they have an EGR then its considered a stock replacement and isn't required. Print that off the DMV website and take it into a smog station. They just worry because all the bullshit sting operations CARB is doing to all the shops they just automatically turn people away if there's any chance they could get busted.
Thank you sir, I found this on the CARB web site, but it only shows for 94-95 5.0l. I will research this.
http://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/aftermkt/devices/aftermkteo.php [ December 12, 2010, 01:54 AM: Message edited by: Camara90 ]
-------------------- 92GT,stock short block,9:1 TFS 170's,perf rpm,custom cam,1 5/8 shorties,C4 trans. std. 356hp, 350tq 11.85@111.9mph on motor.
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BIGBALLFACTOR
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quote: Originally posted by 50 Deep: [Q. Don't let someone elses lack of knowledge slow you down. [/QB]
AN WHY SHOULD A SMOG TECH HAVE TO LOOK YOUR AFTER MARKET PARTS TO MAKE SURE THERE LEGAL THAT ON THE OWNER OF THE CAR TO PROVE THAT IT'S LEGAL
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quote: Originally posted by dirty money inc: quote: Originally posted by 50 Deep: [Q. Don't let someone elses lack of knowledge slow you down.
AN WHY SHOULD A SMOG TECH HAVE TO LOOK YOUR AFTER MARKET PARTS TO MAKE SURE THERE LEGAL THAT ON THE OWNER OF THE CAR TO PROVE THAT IT'S LEGAL [/QB]
that's kind of like a PC repair tech refusing to remove the virus from your computer because your computer has a neon pink cooling fan with glowing lights inside it.
the neon pink fan does the exact same thing as the stock black fan, just like a gt40 intake does the exact same thing as the stock intake manifold.
-------------------- 89 LX Notchback ex 4cyl, 14psi 02 Harley F150, 15psi
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NvrGoFullRetard
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quote: Originally posted by Camara90: quote: Originally posted by Trunkster: quote: Originally posted by Camara90: I tried two Stations, I think without the factory GT40 tubular cover it looks to aftermarket for these fools. I might just go grab a explorer upper and strap it on, just stupid to have to go through all this shit, when it passes for emission. Its shit like this that makes me want to leave this fucking state.
Why would you want to leave the state over some smog bullshit, you'd find 10 other more important things to bitch about living in some other state that you'd not be able to do there that you can here. I understand your frustration but it's not that serious now or is it? I can just see the conversation now, "What brings you to Montana?" I don't have to smog my Mustang over here, duh.
I didnt say it was just smog shit, exact words was shit like this. This is just icing on the cake. They want to take away our guns, make it were we cant buy aftermarket parts for our cars, have to buy factory replacement cats, cant talk on the phone while driving but women can put on makeup, read, and do their hair. Cant have gas pumps that hold the lever, have to go to lunch before 5 hours at work, high ass taxes, additional taxes on shit I buy like TV's, no gambling, the fact that our State has 30 million for people to get rebates for buying Appliances, but my kids dont have books at school. The price of houses, traffic, shity roads etc.... I am sure their are a ton more things, but these are just some I can think of at the moment.
whats really on your mind mike? lol
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quote: Originally posted by dirty money inc: quote: Originally posted by 50 Deep: [Q. Don't let someone elses lack of knowledge slow you down.
AN WHY SHOULD A SMOG TECH HAVE TO LOOK YOUR AFTER MARKET PARTS TO MAKE SURE THERE LEGAL THAT ON THE OWNER OF THE CAR TO PROVE THAT IT'S LEGAL [/QB]
Your a bitch. It's a fuckin smog techs job to know his shit. I feel sorry for your wife having to live with a bigger bitch then her
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