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Topic: Project "Cheap Skate" complete!
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JohnB
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I've decided that being bored in Kansas isn't a good thing. I spend entirely too much time surfin' CL and the local forums looking for something to mess with. I guess that's what happens when the cars you have are "done" and idle downtime sets in. During my recent trips, I'd been thinking of another Coupe. Something simple, but will run 10's, completely streetable, and ALL accessories in place.
I scored this 88 Coupe off CL for next to nothing. It came with everything minus the longblock...and I mean everything. TKO trans with a scattershield, T trim, Holley Systemax intake, full fuel system, etc etc. It's a two-owner car, NO rust, and looks pretty decent. My goal is under 3k for everything, including the price of the car...and a 10 sec time slip. The previous owner pulled the R block stroker for a 67 Fastback and the car has been sitting for nearly three years in a garage. He was getting out of the latemodel scene, so literally every extra part he had or kept over the past 15 years went with the car. Two trips later, everything was home. I've sold some parts, traded others, and whatnot...so the cost is staying down. Clean title, a shade over 90k on the car. Only minus the car has so far...red interior. ![[Embarrassed]](redface.gif) Here's a few pics, enjoy...
In the garage, day I picked it up.
At home...
The "new" motor. Standard bore 302, stock forged pistons, F cam, and GT40p heads with a lil massaging. Took 3 cans of oven cleaner for the block and heads. The price was right though, under $350 for the entire engine buildup...including parts!
I'll keep it updated as I go.. ![[patriot]](graemlins/patriot.gif)
[ December 19, 2010, 10:07 AM: Message edited by: JohnB ]
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Jaejae5.0
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dope!
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SydeWaySix
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$3k for a complete 10 sec car...where do i sign up!?!?!
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Venomized93
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Must be nice to have the knowledge of cars inside and out. I would be doing the same too
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STANGBOY
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how much for the wheels
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JohnB
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Originally posted by STANGBOY:
how much for the wheels
I'd guess somewhere north of $1400 for the set. They aren't available anymore, as far as I know. They aren't for sale. ![[Cool]](cool.gif)
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STANGBOY
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so basicly ur tellin me to go fuck ma self huh
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phat50
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Nice! Make sure to take lots of pics and videos. ![[Whoo Whooooo!]](graemlins/woowoo.gif)
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for some reason i like white with red interior
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Pumpkin_Notch
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Nice so what going to be the internal plan on the block
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Pure Stang
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when do you expect it to be complete?
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SnakeBit
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Damn, it must be nice John. I wish I had the skills.
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JohnB
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Originally posted by 94 N.C.F. GT:
Nice so what going to be the internal plan on the block
VERY basic. Stock pistons, rods, and crank. King rod/main bearings, Perfect Circle rings gapped a lil on the big side, F cam, and all ARP hardware (all new ARP stuff came with the car). GT40P heads I scored for literally nothing...traded a Trex pump and a set of old fuel rails for them. A lil clean up on the exhaust ports and a valve job done here. Should be good for about 285-295 NA and about 450-460 on the SC.
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Originally posted by Pure Stang:
when do you expect it to be complete?
I'm hoping by the end of October. Just waiting on Summit for the gaskets, bearings, etc and a F cam from a board member who's shipping it out soon.
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Pure Stang
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oh wow pretty soon then. Hopefully you hit your goal!
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R.I.P Willie Guzman (5ltrsvt) you will be missed brother.
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Jaejae5.0
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Originally posted by JohnB:
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Originally posted by 94 N.C.F. GT:
Nice so what going to be the internal plan on the block
VERY basic. Stock pistons, rods, and crank. King rod/main bearings, Perfect Circle rings gapped a lil on the big side, F cam, and all ARP hardware (all new ARP stuff came with the car). GT40P heads I scored for literally nothing...traded a Trex pump and a set of old fuel rails for them. A lil clean up on the exhaust ports and a valve job done here. Should be good for about 285-295 NA and about 450-460 on the SC.
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Originally posted by Pure Stang:
when do you expect it to be complete?
I'm hoping by the end of October. Just waiting on Summit for the gaskets, bearings, etc and a F cam from a board member who's shipping it out soon.
are those numbers at the wheel?
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JohnB
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Yes, that's at the wheels. I know it's a lil lofty, but why not aim high? ![[burnout]](graemlins/burnout.gif)
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racsirx
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I made good power with GT40p heads with just 12lbs of boost, whoever got mine is very lucky with all the work that was done with them. I just had one problem couldnt keep the heads on the block, too much cylinder pressure and there wasnt enough deck surface from the GT40p heads to stay on the block. You should easily run 10s with a T-trim and GT40p heads, I wouldnt go over 500RWHP with those heads unless you like doing head gaskets all the time. I made 508RWHP & 548RWTQ with 12lbs of boost and a C4. I like your budget build, funnier that way, I did the same with my Coupe, went 9s with $3000, now I am rebuilding it and spending way too much to get it back together.
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JohnB
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Originally posted by racsirx:
I just had one problem couldnt keep the heads on the block, too much cylinder pressure and there wasnt enough deck surface from the GT40p heads to stay on the block.
I've heard about this Lee. Did you run a upgraded (thicker) centering dowel for the HG? Seems to help things out a lil bit. I do plan to keep it <500 though, no sense in setting it on "kill".
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i had the same problem, with gt40 iron heads and a 62mm turbo, i think i made about 400rwhp at 5000rpm with 10psi blew a head gasket on that run....good luck
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quote:
Originally posted by JohnB:
Yes, that's at the wheels. I know it's a lil lofty, but why not aim high?
nothing wrong with aiming high ..keep us posted i def wanna follow this build..
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Originally posted by racsirx:
I made good power with GT40p heads with just 12lbs of boost, whoever got mine is very lucky with all the work that was done with them. I just had one problem couldnt keep the heads on the block, too much cylinder pressure and there wasnt enough deck surface from the GT40p heads to stay on the block. You should easily run 10s with a T-trim and GT40p heads, I wouldnt go over 500RWHP with those heads unless you like doing head gaskets all the time. I made 508RWHP & 548RWTQ with 12lbs of boost and a C4. I like your budget build, funnier that way, I did the same with my Coupe, went 9s with $3000, now I am rebuilding it and spending way too much to get it back together.
was this because of a small combustion chamber?..i dont wanna have this problem with my gt40 irons
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Originally posted by jaejae:
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Originally posted by racsirx:
I made good power with GT40p heads with just 12lbs of boost, whoever got mine is very lucky with all the work that was done with them. I just had one problem couldnt keep the heads on the block, too much cylinder pressure and there wasnt enough deck surface from the GT40p heads to stay on the block. You should easily run 10s with a T-trim and GT40p heads, I wouldnt go over 500RWHP with those heads unless you like doing head gaskets all the time. I made 508RWHP & 548RWTQ with 12lbs of boost and a C4. I like your budget build, funnier that way, I did the same with my Coupe, went 9s with $3000, now I am rebuilding it and spending way too much to get it back together.
was this because of a small combustion chamber?..i dont wanna have this problem with my gt40 irons
the deck of the heads are not very thick on gt40's
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Luke87GT
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JohnB, looks like fun!
I have to ask though, what happened to the 86 notch? I was really looking forward to that build!
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JohnB
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Originally posted by Luke87GT:
JohnB, looks like fun!
I have to ask though, what happened to the 86 notch? I was really looking forward to that build!
I got it to the point I was going to wire it up and was offered ALOT for the car as a roller. I pulled the engine/trans/wiring back out...sold it. It's currently getting a termi swap.
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