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Originally posted by 23109:
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I just felt I could live with his shortcomings better than McCains.
yea I feel yea. But I'm more interested in how my country fairs before my personal interests.
Well that is all fine and dandy, but you must really consider your realm of influence first before helping/considering others or it could end up a bad case of the blind leading the blind. And that starts with your own home then trickles out. Although your thought is a noble one, its just not realistic to consider all situations. You consider your then those that closely resemble or trail yours. (IMO)
I'll agree with you on some of your points thus far; however, just because you personally ("as a taxpayer") have benefited, it does not mean that Obama can be considered a success as a president.
I didn't necessarily vote for McCain; I simply voted against Obama. As you said, all politicians are crooks - fine, I'm with you all the way on that count, be they Republican or Democrat party members.
As far as I'm concerned, I hope and pray Obama and his entire administration and line of thinking is a one-and-done deal. Call me "bandwagon" if you must, but the label of Socialism is one that is an apt description of the changes he is attempting to initiate in this country. What happened to his promise of disclosure, that the health-care hearings would be broadcast live on C-SPAN, or his promise that all bills would be on the White House website for five days prior to signing?
It's too bad that he was elected based on who he is and what he looks like, rather than how suitable he was to lead this country. People got caught up in the Bush-backlash (and perhaps rightly so), but to cast votes blindly for someone because they are a "first for the country" and whatever other flimsy rhetoric was used to bait the under-educated into supporting him continues to be a disaster.
Now, I am in no way saying that Obama is a sub-par president because of the state of the union and the state of our economy at the time being - this was a problem to be inherited by whomever took over the reigns, be it McCain, Dean, or even Nader.
As mentioned previously, I hope that the voters who made the mistake in 2008 will see the bigger picture, much as 23109 said - forgoing personal interests for the sake of the country as a whole. Just because Obama's record (by a looooong shot) deficit spending hasn't affected us on a personal level (yet), I hope there are enough level-headed voters with sufficient foresight to see the direction the country is headed if we continue to allow the current administration to guide the ship.
/rant off ![[patriot]](graemlins/patriot.gif)
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Funny how you have these people on her talking shit about Obama. When in fact you have a president that has taking on an economy that was on the brink of collapse but revive it to get the stock market over 10k, which is 80% above it's lowest point. Unemployment that was created by the former administration. A president who was given two wars, that didnt need to be fought. Which is costing the american people 10-15 BILLION a month. Guess what, it takes time. He has only been the president for what 15 months.... How many vacation has he taken , one. How often was Bush at his ranch out of the year, about 50% of the time.
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You dont have to agree with his policies but the man is trying and has been given plenty of issues by Bush. Laso for some of you guys , it doesnt matter what he did or does, just because it wasn't McCain or Rand Paul, you will always complain about something. Just except he is your president for the next 3-7 years
And stop throwing up the fucking when you diss Obama, like it's patriot to say it
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Posts: 2039 | From: Rocklin | Registered: Oct 2004
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Originally posted by phil a:
As mentioned previously, I hope that the voters who made the mistake in 2008 will see the bigger picture, much as 23109 said - forgoing personal interests for the sake of the country as a whole. Just because Obama's record (by a looooong shot) deficit spending hasn't affected us on a personal level (yet), I hope there are enough level-headed voters with sufficient foresight to see the direction the country is headed if we continue to allow the current administration to guide the ship.
/rant off [/QB]
So... your complaining about the defecit???? Did Bush have a surplus when he took office??? And what was it when he left?? And he created a war that costs the american people 15 billion a month.... enough said
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do you have any clue what a primary election is?
Yes. And IMHO, it really disappointed me when the Repubs hyped up McCain and shushed up the other possible nominees for the party. Though I didn't start following politics that closely until a few years ago, I can't say in the past 3 elections, that there was a candidate from either party that I really liked.
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Originally posted by 306Coupe:
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Originally posted by phil a:
As mentioned previously, I hope that the voters who made the mistake in 2008 will see the bigger picture, much as 23109 said - forgoing personal interests for the sake of the country as a whole. Just because Obama's record (by a looooong shot) deficit spending hasn't affected us on a personal level (yet), I hope there are enough level-headed voters with sufficient foresight to see the direction the country is headed if we continue to allow the current administration to guide the ship.
/rant off
So... your complaining about the defecit???? Did Bush have a surplus when he took office??? And what was it when he left?? And he created a war that costs the american people 15 billion a month.... enough said [/QB]
I agree with all of your comments, but lets not forget about all those brave lives that are being lost to this damn war...
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yup ive been to solyndra old and the new one being build, my old company is doing all the process pipe,i dont get how with so many vacant buildings they went build one from the ground up, atleast its creating jobs
The building needed to be close to the other two manufacturing buildings. And the foundation needs to be like 12 inch thick concrete cause of how heavy all the machines are.
? 12 in or 12ft when I was there I saw the foundation it did look like 10'-12'
yeah sorry i meant feet.
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Originally posted by 306Coupe:
Funny how you have these people on her talking shit about Obama. When in fact you have a president that has taking on an economy that was on the brink of collapse but revive it to get the stock market over 10k, which is 80% above it's lowest point. Unemployment that was created by the former administration. A president who was given two wars, that didnt need to be fought. Which is costing the american people 10-15 BILLION a month. Guess what, it takes time. He has only been the president for what 15 months.... How many vacation has he taken , one. How often was Bush at his ranch out of the year, about 50% of the time.
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Why don't you all stop being haters and just go with the flow..
I had to for during the Bush era.. now that you got someone you dont like in particular you all whine like little girls... complaining doesnt fix problems buddy ![[Mad]](mad.gif)
Try to work with it, you act like you have a choice
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i think liberal politics are the reason california is in the shape it is. and new york and other liberal states share the same fate. i will never understand why people think the US should provide for them. i have no respect for liberals that take my fucking hard earned money and blow that shit on losers
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My favorite fuck ups are the progressive liberals, they are a fun group to be around.
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Originally posted by 23109:
i think liberal politics are the reason california is in the shape it is. and new york and other liberal states share the same fate. i will never understand why people think the US should provide for them. i have no respect for liberals that take my fucking hard earned money and blow that shit on losers
I know we are all set in our ways pretty much. But I am going to assume you may be in your 20's. But, I'll just say this; watch what you wish for. Because the grass on the other side is no greener.
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Originally posted by 23109:
i think liberal politics are the reason california is in the shape it is. and new york and other liberal states share the same fate. i will never understand why people think the US should provide for them. i have no respect for liberals that take my fucking hard earned money and blow that shit on losers
You paying for the war? I can bet you theres more money being spent on the war than welfare
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Posts: 2039 | From: Rocklin | Registered: Oct 2004
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306Coupe
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Originally posted by 23109:
i think liberal politics are the reason california is in the shape it is. and new york and other liberal states share the same fate. i will never understand why people think the US should provide for them. i have no respect for liberals that take my fucking hard earned money and blow that shit on losers
And... we have a republican governor, so what are you talking about. Stop listening to Foxnews so damn much
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Originally posted by 306Coupe:
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Originally posted by 23109:
i think liberal politics are the reason california is in the shape it is. and new york and other liberal states share the same fate. i will never understand why people think the US should provide for them. i have no respect for liberals that take my fucking hard earned money and blow that shit on losers
And... we have a republican governor, so what are you talking about. Stop listening to Foxnews so damn much
lmao...this is why I assumed he was a youngin. Youngins tend to take fox news and run with it. Foxnews is a step above the enquirer and the amazing bat boy.
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Originally posted by 306Coupe:
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Originally posted by 23109:
i think liberal politics are the reason california is in the shape it is. and new york and other liberal states share the same fate. i will never understand why people think the US should provide for them. i have no respect for liberals that take my fucking hard earned money and blow that shit on losers
You paying for the war? I can bet you theres more money being spent on the war than welfare
IMHO 23109 has a good point about liberal politics. Yes, we are spending alot of money on wars... That is true.... But if war was one of the main reasons our State was straped for cash, then why are non liberal run states not suffering nearly as bad as states like CA&NY? A Socialist Style System is not the answer. Places like Greece show us that it doesn't work.
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I have no intenions of keeping anyones parts or taking anyones money.
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sic70stang
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I don't think you guys are seeing this from my point of view. My state is broke. I pay some of the highest taxes in the country. Not because of a war, but because democrats have so many social programs. 33% of all welfare people live here. Lets face it california is liberal controlled don't matter who is the gov. I offer those FACTS. And I am sick of it. Can't blame foxnews for me knowing my tax rate and my states money troubles. I sure can't blame republicans either.
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sic70stang
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Originally posted by Slowback67:
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Originally posted by 306Coupe:
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Originally posted by 23109:
i think liberal politics are the reason california is in the shape it is. and new york and other liberal states share the same fate. i will never understand why people think the US should provide for them. i have no respect for liberals that take my fucking hard earned money and blow that shit on losers
You paying for the wa*r? I can bet you theres more money being spent on the war than welfare
IMHO 23109 has a good point about liberal politics. Yes, we are spending alot of money on wars... That is true.... But if war was one of the main reasons our State was straped for cash, then why are non liberal run states not suffering nearly as bad as states like CA&NY? A Socialist Style System is not the answer. Places like Greece show us that it doesn't work.
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Posts: 6940 | From: California | Registered: Jul 2005
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306Coupe
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Originally posted by Slowback67:
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Originally posted by 306Coupe:
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Originally posted by 23109:
i think liberal politics are the reason california is in the shape it is. and new york and other liberal states share the same fate. i will never understand why people think the US should provide for them. i have no respect for liberals that take my fucking hard earned money and blow that shit on losers
You paying for the war? I can bet you theres more money being spent on the war than welfare
IMHO 23109 has a good point about liberal politics. Yes, we are spending alot of money on wars... That is true.... But if war was one of the main reasons our State was straped for cash, then why are non liberal run states not suffering nearly as bad as states like CA&NY? A Socialist Style System is not the answer. Places like Greece show us that it doesn't work.
NY and CA is amongst the highest in the counrtry (which also includes states like FL an OK) because its the two top producing states in the union... so when a market and ecomony crashes guess which states gets hit the hardest??? the ones making the most money.
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N8
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Originally posted by 306Coupe:
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Originally posted by Slowback67:
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Originally posted by 306Coupe:
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Originally posted by 23109:
i think liberal politics are the reason california is in the shape it is. and new york and other liberal states share the same fate. i will never understand why people think the US should provide for them. i have no respect for liberals that take my fucking hard earned money and blow that shit on losers
You paying for the war? I can bet you theres more money being spent on the war than welfare
IMHO 23109 has a good point about liberal politics. Yes, we are spending alot of money on wars... That is true.... But if war was one of the main reasons our State was straped for cash, then why are non liberal run states not suffering nearly as bad as states like CA&NY? A Socialist Style System is not the answer. Places like Greece show us that it doesn't work.
NY and CA is amongst the highest in the counrtry (which also includes states like FL an OK) because its the two top producing states in the union... so when a market and ecomony crashes guess which states gets hit the hardest??? the ones making the most money.
this.
states the highest up have the furthest/hardest falls.
You cannot blame liberals or the other side. This stuff being this bad is a concerted effort. I even read how the system itself is designed to fail. Its a necessary evil to reboot things. But thats another topic.
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i say we should start a sideshow to let him know we still have a shit load of "clunkers" in the area and to let him know that they still work good doing donuts and racing something that 4500 dollars couldnt get.
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sic70stang
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so what your saying is a state like ca that is hit the hardest should cut back on programs like medical and wefare. Makes sense to me. Or they need to do something about illegals. Costing millions.
and for the record on illegals. There are 50+ that stand on tennyson rd rushing cars for work. I don't think that's a job that americans won't do. I think that is too many illegals that I pay for when they go to the hospital.
I'm glad you shown everyone why we need to be more conservative. It's because our state has a hard enough time on it's own
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306Coupe
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so what your saying is a state like ca that is hit the hardest should cut back on programs like medical and wefare. Makes sense to me. Or they need to do something about illegals. Costing millions.
and for the record on illegals. There are 50+ that stand on tennyson rd rushing cars for work. I don't think that's a job that americans won't do. I think that is too many illegals that I pay for when they go to the hospital.
I'm glad you shown everyone why we need to be more conservative. It's because our state has a hard enough time on it's own
First have these factories and fields to stop hiring these people illegally..... (repub) then we can talk about the illegals reasons for coming across
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