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Originally posted by rgtrahn:
it has NOTHING TO DO WITH ILLEGAL/LEGAL!! IT HAS TO DO WITH A DRUNK DRIVER BEING ON THE ROAD! If you drink you shouldn't be on the road! If it was a white person you think we would be having this conversation? What about this story from just a few years ago http://cbs13.com/local/local_story_215175701.html
Off duty cop drunk at 9 in the morning not only strikes and kills an innocent child going to school but then runs away! This motherfucker only gets FIVE FUCKING YEARS! He is supposed to protect and serve and he fucking kills a kid and basically walks? There is something wrong w/ this picture some of you are presenting. Like Heroldero said, "This has nothing to do with whether this person was a illegal alien or not, this has to do w/ a drunk driver who should never of been on the road." It doesn't matter if they are Jewish, Mormon, Canadian, Mexican, Chinese, or African. Crime happens point blank, there is no "PERFECT RACE".

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Originally posted by 87#184saleen:
What's with the illegals? you racist, why won't you type shit when your own race committ crimes(serial killers, rapist ect....) what's your problem with illegals??? All of us in the U.S are illegals, and the only ones who are originally form here are the Native Americans. First learn your history and then talk your shit! -THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND HAVE A NICE DAY!!!!

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Originally posted by 1968_Fastback:
On Corral someone said 1 out of 8 illegals has a criminal record and is running from Mexican law.
No idea if thats true but thats crazy.

I didn't make this post as much to talk down illegals, i do believe they should all be deported immediately but the fact that this guy had a DUI in the same town earlier and that city KNEW he was an illegal and didn't deport him then REALLY pisses me off. Are we going to allow illegals to commit murder before we kick them out? Illegals are already robbing us of our SS numbers, tax money, and everything else we pay for and they don't.

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Originally posted by bigjay:
no, actually you are both wrong.. not all of us here are illeagals we are IMMIGRANTS totally different. no one should have a problem with any race but everyone should have a problem with illegals ( remember that the word illegal means against the law) there is a system in place that welcomes immigration.... use it!

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Originally posted by 1968_Fastback:
On Corral someone said 1 out of 8 illegals has a criminal record and is running from Mexican law.
No idea if thats true but thats crazy.

I didn't make this post as much to talk down illegals, i do believe they should all be deported immediately but the fact that this guy had a DUI in the same town earlier and that city KNEW he was an illegal and didn't deport him then REALLY pisses me off. Are we going to allow illegals to commit murder before we kick them out? Illegals are already robbing us of our SS numbers, tax money, and everything else we pay for and they don't.

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I believe your view is very naive and ignorant. Don't get me wrong because we should all have the right to our opinions. I don’t want you or anyone else to think I am talking shit to them or about there opinion. This is how I stand; We as a society focus way to much on the negative and what the media portrays instead of focusing on what is important such as the good things that migrant can accomplish. Furthermore, migrant workers due the jobs that we, "WHITE PEOPLE" are to good for or don't care to due. If it wasn't for migrant workers coming to America to work the fields each season you would pay $12.00 for a fucking Orange, 20.00 for a head of lettuce, 9.00 for a corn stock and ECT. Our Economy already sucks can you imagine what it would be like if we had to spend that kind of money to eat? We seem to single out Hispanic people on this thread, so I will go with it; these people are leaving there country with pretty much nothing. Yaw, it would be great if they came to the United States with bundles of cash so that they did not have to as so many of you call it "cheat, or unfairly enter the county" but, do you really think they would come here if that was the case? I don’t want to single anyone out or step on anyone’s feet but some people are singling out and taking things out of context and pointing out negative examples of things that happen no matter what race or culture you are! There are bad seeds in every race. Why don’t we talk about people like Cesar Chavez? If you truly feel that you are American, but don’t think that people should migrate here then you should re-read history because the founding fathers and Great Patriots such as GEORGE WASHINGTON and Daniel Boone all illegally migrated and for that matter were "insurgents/terrorist" into what was known as the Ohio Country breaking British law and taking Native Indian land sparking a war with them called, "Pontiacs rebellion". I love my country and all the men and women who fight for my freedoms that I have such as expressing myself on here. IMO we are all here we all here illegally. Everyone deserves the chance to be here not, however contrarily not everyone is blessed the same way we all are. At some point unless you are 100% Indian your family migrated here. Imp very opposed to bigotry of any kind, shutting the boarders, building a Berlin wall this side of San Diego.

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Originally posted by 98Snake:

I'd venture to say that 8 out of 10 drivers stopped by police, are illegal, have no driver's license, and no insurance.

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I'd venture to say that 8 out of 10 drivers stopped by police, are illegal, have no driver's license, and no insurance.

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LOL, and who the F are you to "venture" to claim such a statistic?

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Fuck that shit. Illegal aliens should be deported IMMEDIATELY. Come into the states the right way or STAY THE FUCK OUT [/QUOTE
I know what you mean, but it doesn't mean that if one committes a crime we all should pay for that one person, also if it wasn't for the illegals the U.S wouldn't be the same. Why? the clothes your wearing, the food you eating, the house you live in,are made by illegal alliens why bitch about it when we do need them becouse nobody will pick fruit from the orchards for $5 dollars an hour.

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+1 ......... My parents came here illegaly, just some people dont understand, people want to live in the us and have a better life. Mexico was really bad years ago and it prob still is. My parents been u.s. citezens for years. My mom cant really speak it but understands it good. my dad's speaks both. . Its just not english, people have there other languages too. . My family know some friends that are illigals and just got here or like 4 years ago and working hard, trying to get there things straight when possible. They want a better life, Like we have Now. So I understand any other people comming from other countries. Its better with all these type of races,colors,Everything. Imagin every one the same color and spoke the same language

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I'd venture to say that 8 out of 10 drivers stopped by police, are illegal, have no driver's license, and no insurance.

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LOL, and who the F are you to "venture" to claim such a statistic?

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lol... thats a fuckin lie 8 out of ten... LMAO

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Like I said, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, IN A CERTAIN AREA OF A CERTAIN BAY AREA CITY, 8 OUT OF 10 that are pulled over have NO DL and NO INSURANCE. I DID NOT say 8 out of EVERY 10. It's a staggering statistic that affects us ALL in some way or another.

Ask any cop that works in any of the 3 major bay area cities - Oakland, San Francisco, San Jose ... they'll give you their own perspective. Have you ever been on a ride-along? I went on a couple , and on one night, we went 100% ... 7 out of 7 with no license, simply amazing. And I'm not talking forgot their license at home, I'm talking NEVER had one. Next time you see a tow truck driver or are near a tow yard in one of those cities, ask them how many cars are in there with a 30-day hold for driving without a license or with a suspended license. I think you'd be pleasantly surprised.

Sorry, I apologize for "venturing" to make that statement, I was completely out of line. Yes, it was a lie. And as for "who the F am I"? I'm no one special my friend, I'm just like any of the rest of you with an opinion.

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From the L.A. Times

1. 40% of all workers in L.A. County ( L.A. County has 10.2 million people)are working for cash and not paying taxes. These are predominantly illegal immigrants working without a green card.

2. 95% of warrants for murder in Los Angeles are for illegal aliens.

3. 75% of people on the most wanted list in Los Angeles are illegal aliens.

4. Over 2/3 of all births in Los Angeles County are to illegal alien Mexicans on Medi- Cal, whose births were paid for by us, the California taxpayers.

5. Nearly 25% of all inmates in California detention centers are Mexican nationals here illegally.

6. Over 300,000 illegal aliens in Los Angeles County are living in garages.

7. The FBI reports half of all gang members in Los Angeles are illegal aliens from south of the border.

8. Nearly 60% of all occupants of HUD properties are illegal.

9. In L.A. County 5.1 million people speak English, 3.9 million speak Spanish.
(There are 10.2 million people in L.A. County ).

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29% of all illegal aliens are on welfare.

Over 70% of the United States' annual population growth (and over 90% of California, Florida , and New York ) results from immigration.

29% of inmates in federal prisons are illegal aliens.

We are a bunch of fools for letting this happen, and are bigger fools to allow it to continue.

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I think the main point that needs to be made is that most people don't have a problem with the hard working individuals and families who are here illegally.

We are talking about the individuals who come here, commit crimes, and abuse the system, the ones who have nothing to offer our society. We have a big enough problem with the idiots that are here legally.

I can't speak for all of California, but in a certain area of a certain bay area city, you would be surprised how many illegal immigrants are caught for commiting violent crimes, auto thefts and burglaries, and dope dealing ... and are allowed to remain here.

In the same bay area city, I'd venture to say that 8 out of 10 drivers stopped by police, are illegal, have no driver's license, and no insurance. How would you feel if you or a close family member were hit by one of these people? And since these people have no driver's license and no insurance, they often leave the scene of an accident to avoid taking responsibility for their actions. Furthermore, these same people are often 2.5-3x's the legal limit of alcohol. Yup ... believe it or not.

I don't have exact stats, but the rate is alarming. This information isn't made public because of political reasons. These same political reasons, are why the government doesn't just put these criminals on a plane or bus and ship them back to their home countries.

The bottom line is ALL races, ages and sexes commit crimes here in the U.S., illegal or not. The two most common across all walks of life are DUI and domestic violence.

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