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Originally posted by Martinna:
The corrupt lying Sacramento police shot an innocent Stephon Clark in his backyard 20 times! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTlZqEsPY78

@1:05 crooked officer "show me your hands"
@1:06 crooked officer pulls back other offer and lies by saying "gun"
@1:10 crooked officer "show me your hands"
@1:11 crooked officer lies again "gun gun gun"
@1:11 crooked officers fire 20 shots..

They even handcuffed his corpse.

Crooked lying cops said he had a gun. Turned out it was just Stephon's white colored cellphone. That's all, just a white smart phone. Why do you put up with such injustice?

Sacramento PD better lock their crooked officers up! In the old days cops didn't have to kill any citizens to learn a lesson. In 1991 corrupt Los Angeles Police senselessly gang beat on one too many of their citizens. The citizens in turn burned the city down in protest! The crooked cops quickly learned their lesson. Learn your history on the LA riots gentleman. Crooked cops learned if they senselessly beat and kill their citizens, they'll get their city senselessly burned down. People aren't going to suffer peacefully for ever.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0ZyGclmCHY

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You forgot about everything that lead up to this. Breaking windows and running in the first place.
 

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Posted by *Als50* (Member # 6003) on :
 
Yet another Upstanding Black Citizen being Capped by The PoPo...
 

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Posted by eldog68 (Member # 12928) on :
 
Yeah, cuz innocent people start running when the cops come.
 

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Posted by Martinna (Member # 12493) on :
 
adower ------ We think he's breaking windows and having a white iPhone. Lets kill him. Justice served?

*Als50* ------ why do you have to inject race into everything?


eldog68 ------ What is your definition of guilty? Does running in your backyard constitute guilt? I didn't hear police identify themselves. If a gang of people run into your backyard, you'll run too.


You three better keep quiet the next time your city is burning and being looted. You've cheered on acts of injustice for years. There will be no sympathy for you when the revolting arm of injustice swings in your direction.

History shows it's inevitable for any country engaged in an endless War posture, that the war mentality, war tactics and war weaponry will be imported to its homeland to be used against its citizens.
 

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Posted by *Als50* (Member # 6003) on :
 
Quit Assuming, as you pull your Head out your Ass...
 

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Posted by adower (Member # 5955) on :
 

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Originally posted by Martinna:
adower ------ We think he's breaking windows and having a white iPhone. Lets kill him. Justice served?

*Als50* ------ why do you have to inject race into everything?


eldog68 ------ What is your definition of guilty? Does running in your backyard constitute guilt? I didn't hear police identify themselves. If a gang of people run into your backyard, you'll run too.


You three better keep quiet the next time your city is burning and being looted. You've cheered on acts of injustice for years. There will be no sympathy for you when the revolting arm of injustice swings in your direction.

History shows it's inevitable for any country engaged in an endless War posture, that the war mentality, war tactics and war weaponry will be imported to its homeland to be used against its citizens.

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Originally posted by 1990Silver5.0:
So everyone that runs from the police deserves to get killed? What happen to innocent until proven guilty in the court of law? I was young n dumb once. I ran from the police when I was 16 and guess why. They was driving by and saw my friends put his bb gun in his backpack. They did a U turn a few houses down and pulled up guns drown n said freeze. Luckily they wasn't racist assholes or I wouldn't be here right now raising my 2 beautiful children enjoying life as a upstanding american citizen. I was never in a gang or did any drugs but weed about 5 times my whole life (32 now) I just made bad judgement from running. Why did I run? I don't know. Maybe cause my friends did but just cause people run doesn't men they're up to something. That's just a reaction sometimes because your scared and you think the police gonna shoot you anyways so why not run and try to get away.

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Originally posted by Martinna:
adower ---- Can you post evidence Stephon was the one breaking windows? For argument sake is instant execution in one's backyard for breaking a window what this society calls justice? Don't cry too hard when your town is ignited and looted. You and your crooked cops asked for it with your so called justice.

1990Silver5.0 ------ Yes! Police gangs today have gotten carried away with their war weaponry. The crooked police deliberately cut the microphone audio after they murdered Stephon. Remember what crooked police did to father of six Eric Garner. The police gang accused Eric of selling untaxed cigarettes. One crooked cop Daniel Pantaleo choked Eric to death as Eric said I can't breath 11 times ----- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWoZ4Mj9028 What police gangs today call American Justice.


NorCalRydaz ------- Wow. In your country the punishment for running from cops with an iPhone in your hand is getting shot? The punishment for killing people with out a trial has historically been getting your city burned down with riots.

In a free country you're charged with a crime. You defend yourself in a court with a jury of your peers. That's the way it use to be.

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Originally posted by 1990Silver5.0:
So everyone that runs from the police deserves to get killed? What happen to innocent until proven guilty in the court of law? I was young n dumb once. I ran from the police when I was 16 and guess why. They was driving by and saw my friends put his bb gun in his backpack. They did a U turn a few houses down and pulled up guns drown n said freeze. Luckily they wasn't racist assholes or I wouldn't be here right now raising my 2 beautiful children enjoying life as a upstanding american citizen. I was never in a gang or did any drugs but weed about 5 times my whole life (32 now) I just made bad judgement from running. Why did I run? I don't know. Maybe cause my friends did but just cause people run doesn't men they're up to something. That's just a reaction sometimes because your scared and you think the police gonna shoot you anyways so why not run and try to get away.

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Hello! If you don’t run you’re probably not getting killed. Why are you running??

You’re scared and you ran? Listen to your own story. The cops saw you put a B.B. gun which looked like a real fire arm in your back pack. Don’t you think seeing that and you running puts the onus on you. Sounds like you knew something was up and tried to get away.

[ 2018-03-24, 10:17 PM: Message edited by: adower ]
 

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Posted by Martinna (Member # 12493) on :
 
The act of a man running is crime punishable by death? In what country? The act of running determines one's guilt? In what country? You need to back this claim up so people can stop laughing. Post links. You need to back up your funny claims. Or maybe there is another reason why you're okay with Stephon's murder? Stephon had no gun, he had no weapon, he made no threats. And there is no evidence he committed a crime. Stephon loved his two small children and was of no threat to the officers.



Stephon was shot by a foolish gang of cops lying that Stephon's white iphone was a gun. These wild police are out of control. They've testified their fellow officers carry toy guns to plant on people they shoot. Sacramento PD officer Winchester raped women he arrested. Why are you okay with gangs of violent crooked rapists with badges?

[ 2018-03-25, 01:36 AM: Message edited by: Martinna ]
 

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Posted by adower (Member # 5955) on :
 

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Originally posted by Martinna:
The act of a man running is crime punishable by death? In what country? The act of running determines one's guilt? In what country? You need to back this claim up so people can stop laughing. Post links. You need to back up your funny claims. Or maybe there is another reason why you're okay with Stephon's murder? Stephon had no gun, he had no weapon, he made no threats. And there is no evidence he committed a crime. Stephon loved his two small children and was of no threat to the officers.

<img src="https://www.indybay.org/uploads/2018/03/23/sm_stephon_clark.jpg" style="max-width: 640px" alt=" - " />

Stephon was shot by a foolish gang of cops lying that Stephon's white iphone was a gun. These wild police are out of control. They've testified their fellow officers carry toy guns to plant on people they shoot. Sacramento PD officer Winchester raped women he arrested. Why are you okay with gangs of violent crooked rapists with badges?

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He loved his children but was a convicted felon with DV charges more than one time? Sounds like he was loving.
 

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Posted by *Als50* (Member # 6003) on :
 
I was waiting to see his 4th grade picture representating this Upstanding Victim, to the media
 

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Posted by i (Member # 12534) on :
 
Shyt I was at downtown who organized the whole violent protest at the Golden One Arena and then block the freeway to let the people in Sac the city of trees to swang that shit. Almost had a civic swang it but it was one legging.
JK idgaf but her baby’s mama needs a new baby daddy’s tho. Imma slide through like a drive through.
 

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Posted by Martinna (Member # 12493) on :
 
adower ---- Your argument now is Stephon was convicted of a past crime, so he must be guilty of this crime. He was convicted of a past crime and paid his debt to society. In any just society and in all religions, this means you're on even ground. He paid his debt for past transgressions in his youth. What does this have to do with today? You've broken the law got a speeding ticket before. Are you to be afforded any less justice in the future as a result? Are you to be treated more harshly for other unrelated law breaking you in the future? And if so, is acceptable punishment death with out trial by a gang chasing you with guns? You've broken laws in the past before. You ran so you must be guilty. Lets put 20 bullets in your body. You must be guilty. These are your arguments.

Stephon had no gun, he had no weapon, he made no threats. And there is no evidence he committed a crime. Stephon loved his two small children and was of no threat to the officers.

You've been making up one false argument after another. You haven't backed any of them up with links and references. You either have a completely false understanding of the most basic aspects of justice and law or there is another reason you so strongly advocate against justice for Stephon.


*Als50*------ 4th grade? I showed you a picture of a father with his family and children. Show some humanity.


i ---- You're a fake troll. You pretend to type like people you deem to be inferior than you. Quit polluting posts with your fake vernacular, unless you want your pictures and other personal information to be put on blast. There are lots of people here that don't like racists. You won't believe how much people are willing to help out them.

[ 2018-03-25, 01:29 PM: Message edited by: Martinna ]
 

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Posted by Martinna (Member # 12493) on :
 
The officers that murdered were Jared Robinet and Terrence Mercadal. Morally inept District Attorney Schubert should convict them for murder.

Terrence Brandon Mercadal somtimes goes by tmerc or big_merc24 online and lives in Citrus Heights. Graduated from Laguna Creek in 2003. Terrence makes good money killing people he thinks were breaking windows -----
https://transparentcalifornia.com/salaries/2016/sacramento/terrence-brandon-mercadal/
https://twitter.com/big_merc24
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/772182894441664512/xQdOXsZS_400x400.jpg
https://myspace.com/tmerc
https://www.mylife.com/terrance-mercadal/
http://www.sacbee.com/news/local/crime/article206267059.html


Jared E. Robinet made $125K of your tax dollars last year to kill anyone within 18 seconds of being on the scene suspected of breaking glass. Born 12-25-1981. From Chico.

https://transparentcalifornia.com/salaries/2016/sacramento/jared-e-robinet/
https://www.mylife.com/jared-robinet/jaredrobinet
He muted his microphone immediately after the shooting

[ 2018-03-25, 01:33 PM: Message edited by: Martinna ]
 

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Posted by adower (Member # 5955) on :
 

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Originally posted by Martinna:
adower ---- Your argument now is Stephon was convicted of a past crime, so he must be guilty of this crime. He was convicted of a past crime and paid his debt to society. In any just society and in all religions, this means you're on even ground. He paid his debt for past transgressions in his youth. What does this have to do with today? You've broken the law got a speeding ticket before. Are you to be afforded any less justice in the future as a result? Are you to be treated more harshly for other unrelated law breaking you in the future? And if so, is acceptable punishment death with out trial by a gang chasing you with guns? You've broken laws in the past before. You ran so you must be guilty. Lets put 20 bullets in your body. You must be guilty. These are your arguments.

Stephon had no gun, he had no weapon, he made no threats. And there is no evidence he committed a crime. Stephon loved his two small children and was of no threat to the officers.

You've been making up one false argument after another. You haven't backed any of them up with links and references. You either have a completely false understanding of the most basic aspects of justice and law or there is another reason you so strongly advocate against justice for Stephon.


*Als50*------ 4th grade? I showed you a picture of a father with his family and children. Show some humanity.


i ---- You're a fake troll. You pretend to type like people you deem to be inferior than you. Quit polluting posts with your fake vernacular, unless you want your pictures and other personal information to be put on blast. There are lots of people here that don't like racists. You won't believe how much people are willing to help out them.

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No excuses. If he doesn’t run he doesn’t get shot. You tell me why he ran!!

Have I sped and broken laws. Of course. However, If I sped and a cop told me to stop I would. I’m not going to run. If I ran in a car I’d better expect some recourse from the cops.

If his wife were your sister and he beat her and he did his time you’d be okay with that? He would be on moral ground?? You would look that man in the face and shake his hand? Yes I do think less of him after knowing that fact.

[ 2018-03-25, 03:25 PM: Message edited by: adower ]
 

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Posted by *Als50* (Member # 6003) on :
 
Humanity my Ass. I'm showing you reality.
 

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Posted by 1990Silver5.0 (Member # 6210) on :
 

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Originally posted by adower:

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Originally posted by Martinna:
adower ---- Your argument now is Stephon was convicted of a past crime, so he must be guilty of this crime. He was convicted of a past crime and paid his debt to society. In any just society and in all religions, this means you're on even ground. He paid his debt for past transgressions in his youth. What does this have to do with today? You've broken the law got a speeding ticket before. Are you to be afforded any less justice in the future as a result? Are you to be treated more harshly for other unrelated law breaking you in the future? And if so, is acceptable punishment death with out trial by a gang chasing you with guns? You've broken laws in the past before. You ran so you must be guilty. Lets put 20 bullets in your body. You must be guilty. These are your arguments.

Stephon had no gun, he had no weapon, he made no threats. And there is no evidence he committed a crime. Stephon loved his two small children and was of no threat to the officers.

You've been making up one false argument after another. You haven't backed any of them up with links and references. You either have a completely false understanding of the most basic aspects of justice and law or there is another reason you so strongly advocate against justice for Stephon.


*Als50*------ 4th grade? I showed you a picture of a father with his family and children. Show some humanity.


i ---- You're a fake troll. You pretend to type like people you deem to be inferior than you. Quit polluting posts with your fake vernacular, unless you want your pictures and other personal information to be put on blast. There are lots of people here that don't like racists. You won't believe how much people are willing to help out them.

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No excuses. If he doesn’t run he doesn’t get shot. You tell me why he ran!!

Have I sped and broken laws. Of course. However, If I sped and a cop told me to stop I would. I’m not going to run. If I ran in a car I’d better expect some recourse from the cops.

If his wife were your sister and he beat her and he did his time you’d be okay with that? He would be on moral ground?? You would look that man in the face and shake his hand? Yes I do think less of him after knowing that fact.

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First of all we definitely know what kind of cop you would be. Take the law and life in your own hands. Throw all that innocent until proven guilty shit out the window huh


Running from the cops on foot not knowing why and speeding and knowing why you getting pulled over can't be compared. You know exactly why you getting pulled over. How many COPS episodes have you seen and how many people ran? How many got killed or even shot at?

Shit I have my insurance info on my phone. I'm afraid to grab my phone if I get pulled over now because a cop that has your mentality will think it's a gun.
 

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Posted by adower (Member # 5955) on :
 

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Originally posted by 1990Silver5.0:

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Originally posted by adower:

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Originally posted by Martinna:
adower ---- Your argument now is Stephon was convicted of a past crime, so he must be guilty of this crime. He was convicted of a past crime and paid his debt to society. In any just society and in all religions, this means you're on even ground. He paid his debt for past transgressions in his youth. What does this have to do with today? You've broken the law got a speeding ticket before. Are you to be afforded any less justice in the future as a result? Are you to be treated more harshly for other unrelated law breaking you in the future? And if so, is acceptable punishment death with out trial by a gang chasing you with guns? You've broken laws in the past before. You ran so you must be guilty. Lets put 20 bullets in your body. You must be guilty. These are your arguments.

Stephon had no gun, he had no weapon, he made no threats. And there is no evidence he committed a crime. Stephon loved his two small children and was of no threat to the officers.

You've been making up one false argument after another. You haven't backed any of them up with links and references. You either have a completely false understanding of the most basic aspects of justice and law or there is another reason you so strongly advocate against justice for Stephon.


*Als50*------ 4th grade? I showed you a picture of a father with his family and children. Show some humanity.


i ---- You're a fake troll. You pretend to type like people you deem to be inferior than you. Quit polluting posts with your fake vernacular, unless you want your pictures and other personal information to be put on blast. There are lots of people here that don't like racists. You won't believe how much people are willing to help out them.

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No excuses. If he doesn’t run he doesn’t get shot. You tell me why he ran!!

Have I sped and broken laws. Of course. However, If I sped and a cop told me to stop I would. I’m not going to run. If I ran in a car I’d better expect some recourse from the cops.

If his wife were your sister and he beat her and he did his time you’d be okay with that? He would be on moral ground?? You would look that man in the face and shake his hand? Yes I do think less of him after knowing that fact.

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First of all we definitely know what kind of cop you would be. Take the law and life in your own hands. Throw all that innocent until proven guilty shit out the window huh


Running from the cops on foot not knowing why and speeding and knowing why you getting pulled over can't be compared. You know exactly why you getting pulled over. How many COPS episodes have you seen and how many people ran? How many got killed or even shot at?

Shit I have my insurance info on my phone. I'm afraid to grab my phone if I get pulled over now because a cop that has your mentality will think it's a gun.

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Originally posted by East Bay 50:
Martina, Why do you even bother arguing with these guys? They will never see any other point of view but there own. shooting an unarmed person if they run is against the law period. No cop should be doing that type of shit.

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Originally posted by NorCalRydaz:

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Originally posted by East Bay 50:
Martina, Why do you even bother arguing with these guys? They will never see any other point of view but there own. shooting an unarmed person if they run is against the law period. No cop should be doing that type of shit.

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This is true. But why increase the odds of getting shot if you do not have to?

Yes, running increases your odds of getting shot by the police. Sad but true

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Originally posted by fredfifty:
[QB] beating the shit out of a dead horse.

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You mean "Shooting the Fuck out of a Dead Horse"...
 

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Posted by 1990Silver5.0 (Member # 6210) on :
 
I don't do anything against the law but hell yea I'm afraid of getting shot when I get pulled over. I'm not against law enforcement either. We need them and I appreciate what they do but they do have bad ones that are rigger happy or just get too scared and pull the trigger on accident. They dont need to be cops. Ive had run ins wit some cool ass cops that let me off with a warning when I did some stupid shit driving.

All I'm sayin in this situation the cops shouldn't have shot dude. I can see maybe a warning shot or maybe a shot at his legs.

Most of yal will never understand. That's all I gotta say. You all stay safe out there
 

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Posted by NEIGHT (Member # 8741) on :
 

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Originally posted by fredfifty:
beating the shit out of a dead horse.

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Originally posted by NEIGHT:

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Originally posted by fredfifty:
beating the shit out of a dead horse.

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FTP

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Originally posted by *Als50*:
Humanity my Ass. I'm showing you reality.

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Here is the reality. Imagine if this was your grandmother begging for justice -------

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKAZ_ejorCU



Imagine your grandmother trying to hold it together.

Stephon had no gun, he had no weapon, he made no threats. And there is no evidence he committed a crime of breaking glass. He commuted no crime punishable by police execution.

We have people here that think the law says police have the right to shoot you if you run, but haven't been able to produce such a law. They can't honestly say they believe this is how justice works. Since those of you against justice for Stephon can't provide any laws or evidence, there must be another reason you strongly support Stephon's murder. What is that reason?
 

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Posted by i (Member # 12534) on :
 
Dang the city council members dip after protesters came up in the meeting.
https://youtu.be/5kyRhBOsm4Y
 

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Posted by *Als50* (Member # 6003) on :
 
We'll make sure to him seriously now....
 

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Posted by East Bay 50 (Member # 8081) on :
 

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Originally posted by i:
Dang the city council members dip after protesters came up in the meeting.
https://youtu.be/5kyRhBOsm4Y

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Originally posted by Martinna:

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Originally posted by *Als50*:
Humanity my Ass. I'm showing you reality.

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We have people here that think the law says police have the right to shoot you if you run, but haven't been able to produce such a law. They can't honestly say they believe this is how justice works. Since those of you against justice for Stephon can't provide any laws or evidence, there must be another reason you strongly support Stephon's murder. What is that reason?

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Originally posted by SmokinLX:

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Originally posted by Martinna:

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Originally posted by *Als50*:
Humanity my Ass. I'm showing you reality.

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We have people here that think the law says police have the right to shoot you if you run, but haven't been able to produce such a law. They can't honestly say they believe this is how justice works. Since those of you against justice for Stephon can't provide any laws or evidence, there must be another reason you strongly support Stephon's murder. What is that reason?

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Isn't it called evaiding or running from a police
Officer? Then as they pursued Stephon the Cop's on the ground were told from the helicopter that Stephon had a gun. So at this point it will depend on a jury to decide if He was following orders as far as putting hand's up going to ground when instructed etc. I havnt seen any videos Myself so don't know what happened as far as Him putting hands up when instructed or what not. Obviously a sad day for many.

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Originally posted by SLOWBACK 67:
The 3 time convicted felon

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Originally posted by SLOWBACK 67:
pulled out a cell phone and pointed at the cop.

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Originally posted by SLOWBACK 67:
It's the ghetto lottery. Get shot by a cop and hope you survive to collect the money. Worst case your family get's Ron Burass to collect his 45% and leave the family with enough to buy a benz, pay some bills and shit out another turd to repace the one the cops shot.

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This says everything people need to know about the type of person you are. You are implying people born into poverty purposely attempt to get shot by police to collect money. Thank you for being honest and sharing your true thoughts and feelings. Most people that share your views aren't brave enough to actually speak them. I respect your bravery and loathe your heinous views.

Nothing you said is true.

[ 2018-04-05, 01:38 AM: Message edited by: Martinna ]
 

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Posted by *Als50* (Member # 6003) on :
 
Go Giants
 

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Posted by adower (Member # 5955) on :
 

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Originally posted by Martinna:
Stephon had no gun, he had no weapon, he made no threats. And there is no evidence he committed a crime. Stephon loved his two small children and was of no threat to police.

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Originally posted by SLOWBACK 67:
The 3 time convicted felon

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Proof of the three felonies? Please list them to show us how he got around the three strikes and your out law as a father of two at age 22. Even if true, there is a way justice works when you do a crime. If you pay your debt to society you are forgiven for it and are accepted back into society as an equal. There is no crime in religions or modern justice systems which you are punished for eternity. If Stephon did any crimes, he paid his debt for them and was allowed back into society on equal footing. Being shot in the back by crooked police has nothing to do with past alleged crimes. No links showing Stephon's alleged felonies have been posted. If you make a claim, back it up with links as I do. The more outrageous the claim, the more evidence you need to present for people to believe you.

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Originally posted by SLOWBACK 67:
pulled out a cell phone and pointed at the cop.

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False again. Cops lied and said Stephon was charging at them. Autopsy results show Stephon Clark was shot 7 times in the back! Your claim Stephon pulled out his white iphone and pointed it at police is with out any evidence and contradicts autopsy reports showing bullets entered his body from behind. How can you get shot 7 times in the back while charging at police with your white colored iphone? I wonder why this gang of cops muted the microphones on their body cams after committing murder.

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Originally posted by SLOWBACK 67:
It's the ghetto lottery. Get shot by a cop and hope you survive to collect the money. Worst case your family get's Ron Burass to collect his 45% and leave the family with enough to buy a benz, pay some bills and shit out another turd to repace the one the cops shot.

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This says everything people need to know about the type of person you are. You are implying people born into poverty purposely attempt to get shot by police to collect money. Thank you for being honest and sharing your true thoughts and feelings. Most people that share your views aren't brave enough to actually speak them. I respect your bravery and loathe your heinous views.

Nothing you said is true.

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Originally posted by Martinna:
Stephon had no gun, he had no weapon, he made no threats. And there is no evidence he committed a crime. Stephon loved his two small children and was of no threat to police.

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Originally posted by SLOWBACK 67:
The 3 time convicted felon

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Proof of the three felonies? Please list them to show us how he got around the three strikes and your out law as a father of two at age 22. Even if true, there is a way justice works when you do a crime. If you pay your debt to society you are forgiven for it and are accepted back into society as an equal. There is no crime in religions or modern justice systems which you are punished for eternity. If Stephon did any crimes, he paid his debt for them and was allowed back into society on equal footing. Being shot in the back by crooked police has nothing to do with past alleged crimes. No links showing Stephon's alleged felonies have been posted. If you make a claim, back it up with links as I do. The more outrageous the claim, the more evidence you need to present for people to believe you.

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Originally posted by SLOWBACK 67:
pulled out a cell phone and pointed at the cop.

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False again. Cops lied and said Stephon was charging at them. Autopsy results show Stephon Clark was shot 7 times in the back! Your claim Stephon pulled out his white iphone and pointed it at police is with out any evidence and contradicts autopsy reports showing bullets entered his body from behind. How can you get shot 7 times in the back while charging at police with your white colored iphone? I wonder why this gang of cops muted the microphones on their body cams after committing murder.

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Originally posted by SLOWBACK 67:
It's the ghetto lottery. Get shot by a cop and hope you survive to collect the money. Worst case your family get's Ron Burass to collect his 45% and leave the family with enough to buy a benz, pay some bills and shit out another turd to repace the one the cops shot.

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This says everything people need to know about the type of person you are. You are implying people born into poverty purposely attempt to get shot by police to collect money. Thank you for being honest and sharing your true thoughts and feelings. Most people that share your views aren't brave enough to actually speak them. I respect your bravery and loathe your heinous views.

Nothing you said is true.

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Originally posted by SLOWBACK 67:
You're good at finding out information.

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Thank you. Remember that time I outed an officer down by Fresno in the Tulare Porterville region that was trying to get me to visit his precint . He quickly edited his post once I outed him. The very very smart public servant didn't think it was a good idea to publicly threaten citizens for committing the crime of free speech unless he could do the threatening anonymously. I'm sure that Mark cop was luring me to his precinct as part of a plot he Hatched to protect and serve his community from gangs Crooked cops, they're all the same.

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Originally posted by SLOWBACK 67:
Look up his arrest record.

The report was he pulled out his cell phone and poonted at the officers. A very common tactic used by criminals.

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Originally posted by SLOWBACK 67:
I am 100% correct about trying to get shot or hurt to sue a city/Department. If you would like to hear about the stories I have from LEO's who dealt with these issues. I'd be more than happy to tell you about the fucked up things people do to try and strike it rich.

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Yes, share the stories. We all want to hear how poor people go around deliberately trying to get shot by police to get rich. You sound like a perfectly rational and reasonable man. It would be riveting if you could share more of your knowledge.


"And I must say tonight that a riot is the language of the unheard. And what is it America has failed to hear? It has failed to hear that the promises of freedom and justice have not been met. And it has failed to hear that large segments of white society are more concerned about tranquility and the status quo than about justice and humanity." - MLK

Stephon better get justice! Cities have burned for far less injustice!
 

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Posted by *Als50* (Member # 6003) on :
 
You're truly, CAF's Social Justice Warrior...
 

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Posted by NEIGHT (Member # 8741) on :
 
Getting shot on purpose for money. I have heard it all on here. I hope your kids get shot for running and you'll be like "oh he ran so I'm glad you shot him, great job."

No use in replying to me I'm not gonna go back and fourth here with this shit I rather argue with a wall, I might get further.
 

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Posted by *Als50* (Member # 6003) on :
 
You mean the wall that Daddy Trump is building? Good luck with that
 

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Posted by hidnn0s (Member # 13845) on :
 

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Originally posted by *Als50*:
You mean the wall that Daddy Trump is building?

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Thank god for the wall!!! Long overdue
 

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Posted by Martinna (Member # 12493) on :
 
To those that defend cops, FBI and other police forces. Ever think these officers are the tools of the powerful and corrupt? The elite politicians, generals, CEOs and bankers of your country never go to jail no matter what crimes they commit. Police are the way in which force and power is applied and asserted by the rich and powerful. Ironic police officers themselves are also the victims. They're the ones whose salaries are being slashed, whose pensions are being stolen. Their economic security is being destroyed along with everybody else. They are not welcome in the circles of the elites, because they are not elite. But to the extent they are operating as the arm or weapon of the elite class, then of course police are people who commit egregious crimes all the time. Cops are protected by the court system and by the law. With rare exception officers are subjected to punishment. But not because they themselves are privileged, but because cops essentially act as the guards of those in power, there is an interest to shield police from accountability. They get elite exemption when they act to service and protect the interest of the elite. And that's what you're seeing, cops being able to use this excessive force with out much consequence or punishment. And this is the definition of a two tiered justice system. Equality and justice for some.

[ 2018-04-11, 02:09 AM: Message edited by: Martinna ]
 

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Posted by *Als50* (Member # 6003) on :
 
Our Country isn't perfect. Our Justice System isn't perfect, but if you could Find a BETTER One, please let us know.
 

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Posted by Martinna (Member # 12493) on :
 
*Als50* ---- That is very unpatriotic of you. Read the preamble to your constitution.

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We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

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Your founding fathers wanted you to keep changing to form a more perfect union. You just argued to conserve the status quo because you're not aware of a better option.
 

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Posted by *Als50* (Member # 6003) on :
 
Founding Father's weren't perfect either. No system is... You're very good at making Assumptions though
 

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Posted by NorCalRydaz (Member # 3233) on :
 
https://kmel.iheart.com/featured/the-sana-g-morning-show/content/2018-04-11-stevante-clark-flosses-donation-money-for-slain-brother-stephon/


What you think about that Martina?
 

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Posted by El Caballo (Member # 6355) on :
 
^^^ the brother is a imbecile, he is so happy his brother got killed by cops
 

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Posted by adower (Member # 5955) on :
 
Still no response as to why he ran in the first place.
 

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Posted by SLOWBACK 67 (Member # 6348) on :
 

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Originally posted by adower:
Still no response as to why he ran in the first place.

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His criminal record speaks for itself. I understand some people change..... But this dude wasn't one of them.
 

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Posted by Martinna (Member # 12493) on :
 
*Als50* -------- your arguments so far can be sumarized by quoting you.

---"Yet another Upstanding Black Citizen being Capped by The PoPo" and "I was waiting to see his 4th grade picture representating this Upstanding Victim, to the media" the implication being less than upstanding citizens that are poor deserve to be killed by police for even minor legal transgressions. You yourself, not being rich or privileged elite however have never dared say less than upstanding rich and powerful citizens should also be killed by police for minor legal transgressions. Nor have you ever said such a thing about less than upstanding police officers.

---"Founding Father's weren't perfect either. No system is" and "Our Country isn't perfect. Our Justice System isn't perfect, but if you could Find a BETTER One, please let us know." the implication being such acts of injustice happen, and you're okay with it. You've been quick to point out Stephon Clark deserved to be punished for injustices he engaged in as a teenager, but you have yet to apply the same standard equally and say the police officers that shot Stephon 7 times in the back should also be be punished for injustices they engaged in.


I won't repeat your other comments. They're a mixture of name calling and cursing. You have not been able to produce a rational defense of your violent position. Instead of logic, your position is emotionally based. Be honest. What is your real gripe against Stephon?
 

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Posted by El Caballo (Member # 6355) on :
 
Martinna, what would of you done if you was in Stephon shoes At that moment?

Would you follow instructions from cops
or
would you run and not follow instructions
 

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Posted by *Als50* (Member # 6003) on :
 
He would "Resist"... of course
 

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Posted by Martinna (Member # 12493) on :
 
El Caballo -------
I don't know what I would do in Stephon's shoes. I've seen crooked cops choke to death a loving father, Eric Garner for the crime of selling loose cigarettes with out tax stamps. Eric told the cops I can't breathe eleven times.

I've watched crooked police murder Philando Castile, a 2nd amendment respecting, elementary school worker. Philano was called "Mr. Phil" by the students and was known for paying out of his pocket to buy lunch for poor students. Police killed "Mr. Phil" in front of his 4 year old kid. His strong little girl asks her mom to stop screaming after witnessing the murder so police don't shoot her too. Even the little 4 year old girl understands what some of you pretend not to.

I've seen viscous Fresno cops quick to pull the trigger on a guy they pull over for laying down some rubber in his V8 truck. Fresno police officers have a history of crime. Their former police cheif is a convicted drug dealer. You can't trust these crooked police from he Fresno area.

I've seen corrupt cops kill little 12 year old Tamir Rice two seconds after seeing Tamir playing by a play ground sand box. Cops said Tamir had a toy gun on him. A Baltimore cop has testified in court some officers in his unit carry toy guns to plant on people they shoot under the direction of their supervisors.

I've heard about Sacramento and San Mateo cop Noah Winchester. Officer Winchester was arrested for sexually "penetrating" citizens of his community.

I've watched Officer Julian Archuleta arrest people to steal their cash. He usually turned his body cam off before snatching cash, but this time he slipped.

Can any of you watch all the videos linked in this post and say with a straight face skepticism of cops is unreasonable?


"And I must say tonight that a riot is the language of the unheard. And what is it America has failed to hear? It has failed to hear that the promises of freedom and justice have not been met. And it has failed to hear that large segments of white society are more concerned about tranquility and the status quo than about justice and humanity." - Dr. Martin Luther King

Stephon better get justice! Cities have burned for far less injustice!
 

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Posted by SLOWBACK 67 (Member # 6348) on :
 
Stephon got the justice.
He played stupid games and won a dirt nap as his final prize.
 

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Posted by El Caballo (Member # 6355) on :
 
Martinna,
Eric garner instead of Cooperating he argued with cops, it’s Commonsense a cop won’t walk away just because your mad and upset specially if your involved in a Altercation.
-Guy didn’t follow instructions..

Philando Castile should of kept his hands on the stearing wheel and waited for instructions specially after he just told the cop he had a gun. The cop dint say ‘show me your DL’ then started shooting right?
Why is he reaching to grab his wallet? As soon the cop started yelling he should of know the cop was nervous, why not put your hands up instead of trying to get your wallet? But my question is why did he had a gun in the car with his daughter in the first place?
Anyhow,
-did not follow instructions..

The guy on the lifted truck was clearly a suicide by cop, Definitely did not follow instructions...

The 12 year old it is sad been so young but come on who would swing and point a toy gun on a public place? What was his intention? Playing around? Why not Throw away the gun as soon as he seen the cop pull up like that and put his hands up just for them to see it was a toy gun
(obviously after he was in handcuffs).

I’m not justifying the Deaths of the above but it’s commonsense, follow instructions

I get what you mean by The broke cop that stole money and the other sicko cop. If you don’t know what you would do if you was in Stephon shoes then what would of you done if you were the cop boots in these Situations?...

This is the way I see it
https://youtu.be/6iHizeMwWxk

But then we wonder why
https://youtu.be/FoJWzL8UFmk

[ 2018-04-16, 02:13 PM: Message edited by: El Caballo ]
 

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Posted by hidnn0s (Member # 13845) on :
 

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Originally posted by El Caballo:
I’m not justifying the Deaths of the above but it’s commonsense, follow instructions

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All of these people were in some way involved in a situation, so I agree, follow instructions.

The police do NOT have any authority to pick you out of crowd, and start barking commands. If that had happened I'd absolutely say fuck off and you don't have to follow instructions/commands, but that's just my opinion. What I have seen, is no matter how clearly you catch a full situation clearly on video, they will lie through their teeth, EVEN WITH CLEAR EVIDENCE WHICH PROVES THEIR WORDS ARE LIES. In cases like this they just pay people off to avoid trial, it's bullshit. "Police" should be 100% honest, they are not.
I also do have an issue, it seems all too often if the trigger is pulled 1 time, it gets pulled many times, not to stop the threat, but to "kill."
Someone who has a knife, is far away enough that a shot to their leg, arm etc would disarm the situation. I feel they don't because then they would financially be on the hook for the future etc. I suspect they are trained this way, but that's pure speculation from what I've seen.
 

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Posted by Martinna (Member # 12493) on :
 
El Caballo ------ Your ability to attempt and rationalize your thoughts is praise worthy. Others that share your views purely post on irrational emotional instinct. The videos links you shared are irrelevant. Yes, most police interactions do not result in immediate state execution. This mathematically provable point is not at debate.

The rational expressed by Stephon haters here breaks down to two areas. First ---- Stephon committed crimes in his teens and thus deserves his death as we all unfortunately witnessed. These people don't acknowledge Stephon paid his debt to society for all past crimes in his youth. The Stephon antagonists fail to describe a legitimate form justice where one is indefinitely punished for past crimes. They don't understand the American justice system does not perpetually punish someone for past crimes. Especially crimes committed as a teen. The North Korean government does however punish someone for three generations. Stephon haters here have a concept of justice inline with North Korea, not America.

Second ---- Stephon didn't follow officer instructions. He ran, and running confirms one's guilt, which is punishable by instant execution. Seven bullets in the back.. Unarmed. No threat to officers. Only carrying his white iPhone. The Stephon opponents fail to describe a legitimate form of justice where not following instructions of police legitimately, morally, results in 7 bullets in one's back. These people would happily continued to be servants of the British under King George. Very obedient in the face of injustice. Very unAmerican.

The lack of understanding of the basic concept of justice by these people would be funny if it wasn't so tragic. Even though these two irrational reasons are repeatedly given in different forms here by Stephon opponents, I suspect they fear to speak their real underlying thoughts on the matter. I won't acknowledge the name calling, chants for building "the wall" and other nonsense brought up by this group.


History shows if you continue to act unjust and immoral towards a group of people, they'll inflame your city. No one will be sympathetic to your cries for justice when that night comes. You earned it. Go on, acquit some murders.
 

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Posted by hidnn0s (Member # 13845) on :
 
Go away already
 

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Posted by *Als50* (Member # 6003) on :
 
He can't (won't). SJW
 

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Posted by Martinna (Member # 12493) on :
 
And the Stephon opponents are back to name calling. Up next will be their chants to "build the wall".

Followed by cries for perpetual punishment for past served crimes and the act of running or disobeying notoriously corrupt authorities proves one's guilt. Come out of your secure confined space and share the real reason you're cheering for Stephon's death. We want to hear it.
 

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Posted by NorCalRydaz (Member # 3233) on :
 

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Originally posted by Martinna:
And the Stephon opponents are back to name calling. Up next will be their chants to "build the wall".

Followed by cries for perpetual punishment for past served crimes and the act of running or disobeying notoriously corrupt authorities proves one's guilt. Come out of your secure confined space and share the real reason you're cheering for Stephon's death. We want to hear it.

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Let’s keep it to ONE issue per post. This is yesterday’s news already. Let move forward

 

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Posted by El Caballo (Member # 6355) on :
 
Martina Just forget it, you’ve avoided my simple question by trying to sound shrewd but your more intuitive about this. I’m just going with the Obvious plain and simple and I’m not racist i feel fortunate to have few friends from different races Asian, African American, and one that’s Persian I’ve been at there familys table so you have no idea don’t judge . I don’t like whiners and complainers and people that think they can work the system by been shiftless and feckless overall incompetent. If the cops, the president and the system in the US is fucked up then there’s 194 country’s to choose from nobody is been forced to be here in the US and I include my self since I don’t like trump, but it is what it is man he is the president and if cops are Corrupt and are racist then I better get me a one way ticket to the North Pole were I won’t be bothered.

racism it’s about Culture if every culture would imply a strong foundation of respect to one another Regardless of nationality and religion then this would be a
different world buddy’ but is not, that’s why some people dont like me because I’m Mexican and others don’t like black, whites etc. because of there culture. Humans worst enemy are humans..

As long family and love ones are healthy, enjoy life! is short.
Some people can’t even handle their own issues but they want to get into somebody else’s business Just to be nosy and feel important But actually makes things worse and overthrows everything.

[ 2018-04-20, 11:46 PM: Message edited by: El Caballo ]
 

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Posted by adower (Member # 5955) on :
 

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Originally posted by El Caballo:
Martina Just forget it, you’ve avoided my simple question by trying to sound shrewd but your more intuitive about this. I’m just going with the Obvious plain and simple and I’m not racist i feel fortunate to have few friends from different races Asian, African American, and one that’s Persian I’ve been at there familys table so you have no idea don’t judge . I don’t like whiners and complainers and people that think they can work the system by been shiftless and feckless overall incompetent. If the cops, the president and the system in the US is fucked up then there’s 194 country’s to choose from nobody is been forced to be here in the US and I include my self since I don’t like trump, but it is what it is man he is the president and if cops are Corrupt and are racist then I better get me a one way ticket to the North Pole were I won’t be bothered.

racism it’s about Culture if every culture would imply a strong foundation of respect to one another Regardless of nationality and religion then this would be a
different world buddy’ but is not, that’s why some people dont like me because I’m Mexican and others don’t like black, whites etc. because of there culture. Humans worst enemy are humans..

As long family and love ones are healthy, enjoy life! is short.
Some people can’t even handle their own issues but they want to get into somebody else’s business Just to be nosy and feel important But actually makes things worse and overthrows everything.

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We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

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Your founding fathers wanted you to keep changing to form a more perfect union. They didn't say to leave in the face of grave injustice. They stood and fought and that's what I'm doing. Your founding fathers didn't say keep things the same for now and always. They wanted change. You, like others, are arguing to conserve the status quo because you're not aware of a better option. You said it yourself, no amount of elite or police injustice will cause you to act because "it is what it is man ". Spoken like an uncle tom. Real Americans want to change a corrupt system that only gives equality and justice to some. People that shrug and say "it is what it is man " would have never shot the British. You people would happily continue to be servants of the British under corrupt King George. Very obedient in the face of injustice. Very unAmerican by every measure. And the only come back Stephon haters have to this truth is to tell the messenger of truth and reason to shut up and leave. Still not one negative word about police injustice. Rapist, lying, stealing, drug dealing cops. Not one word bad against these police scum degrading your California communities. Police raping your teen girls. Police selling drugs to your children. Police stealing your valuables.

[ 2018-04-23, 04:54 AM: Message edited by: Martinna ]
 

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Posted by hidnn0s (Member # 13845) on :
 

 

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Posted by Martinna (Member # 12493) on :
 
hidnn0s is back to the unpatriotic third fallacious argument. Wait a little longer one of the the first two fallacious arguments will come back up.


If Stephon was breaking into cars or houses as officers that keep changing their story claim, why was there no broken glass? No signs of breaking and entry. No tools. No crime, other than murder committed by police gangs shooting an unarmed man of no threat 7 times in the back.

"It is not enough for me to stand before you tonight and condemn riots. It would be morally irresponsible for me to do that without, at the same time, condemning the contingent, intolerable conditions that exist in our society. These conditions are the things that cause individuals to feel that they have no other alternative than to engage in violent rebellions to get attention. And I must say tonight that a riot is the language of the unheard." -Dr. Martin Luther King
 

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Posted by *Als50* (Member # 6003) on :
 
Time to let this shit go buddy. You want to do something good for society, go to a shelter and feed the needy.
 

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Posted by hidnn0s (Member # 13845) on :
 

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Originally posted by *Als50*:
Time to let this shit go buddy. You want to do something good for society, go to a shelter and feed the needy.

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But he has no free time, he sits and trolls instead....
 

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Posted by Martinna (Member # 12493) on :
 
Trolling with what? The truth? I've only spoken the truth. All of my statements are linked to reputable references. None of the Stephon haters have provided any counter references. I have conducted myself respectfully and avoided personal insults and name calling.
"In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - G. Orwell


It's not a good week for corrupt Sacramento DA Anne Marie Schubert. We just learned right after the shooting, this corrupt lawyer, playing the role of public servant took a $13,000 "donation" from the same police organization that murdered Stephon. Do you think a corrupt District Attorney is going to file charges against officers from a police gang that lace her pockets with tens of thousands of dollars in "donations" ? This is no one's definition of justice. She hasn't even apologized and gave the money back.
 

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Posted by hidnn0s (Member # 13845) on :
 
Off topic, do you own a Mustang?
 

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Posted by Blown93Snake (Member # 94) on :
 

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Originally posted by Martinna:
adower ---- Your argument now is Stephon was convicted of a past crime, so he must be guilty of this crime. He was convicted of a past crime and paid his debt to society. In any just society and in all religions, this means you're on even ground. He paid his debt for past transgressions in his youth. What does this have to do with today? You've broken the law got a speeding ticket before. Are you to be afforded any less justice in the future as a result? Are you to be treated more harshly for other unrelated law breaking you in the future? And if so, is acceptable punishment death with out trial by a gang chasing you with guns? You've broken laws in the past before. You ran so you must be guilty. Lets put 20 bullets in your body. You must be guilty. These are your arguments.

Stephon had no gun, he had no weapon, he made no threats. And there is no evidence he committed a crime. Stephon loved his two small children and was of no threat to the officers.

You've been making up one false argument after another. You haven't backed any of them up with links and references. You either have a completely false understanding of the most basic aspects of justice and law or there is another reason you so strongly advocate against justice for Stephon.


*Als50*------ 4th grade? I showed you a picture of a father with his family and children. Show some humanity.


i ---- You're a fake troll. You pretend to type like people you deem to be inferior than you. Quit polluting posts with your fake vernacular, unless you want your pictures and other personal information to be put on blast. There are lots of people here that don't like racists. You won't believe how much people are willing to help out them.

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The part about escalating consequences... if you get a DUI... and pay your thousands in fines... do your time.. etc..

Then you should be good. Right?

Get a 2nd? Ruh roh. Argument kaput.

Sucks.

Not everything is fair in life. Shit happens. Especially in this nazi ass state of commiefornia.

Now they run radio ads claiming buzzed driving is drunk driving. Good to know .08 isn't law anymore and they can just make shit up as they please.

Awesome.
 

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Posted by El Caballo (Member # 6355) on :
 
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[ 2018-04-27, 07:58 PM: Message edited by: El Caballo ]
 

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Posted by Martinna (Member # 12493) on :
 

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Originally posted by Martinna:
The officers that murdered were Jared Robinet and Terrence Mercadal. Morally inept District Attorney Schubert should convict them for murder.

Terrence Brandon Mercadal somtimes goes by tmerc or big_merc24 online and lives in Citrus Heights. Graduated from Laguna Creek in 2003. Terrence makes good money killing people he thinks were breaking windows -----
https://transparentcalifornia.com/salaries/2016/sacramento/terrence-brandon-mercadal/
https://twitter.com/big_merc24
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/772182894441664512/xQdOXsZS_400x400.jpg
https://myspace.com/tmerc
https://www.mylife.com/terrance-mercadal/
http://www.sacbee.com/news/local/crime/article206267059.html


Jared E. Robinet made $125K of your tax dollars last year to kill anyone within 18 seconds of being on the scene suspected of breaking glass. Born 12-25-1981. From Chico.

https://transparentcalifornia.com/salaries/2016/sacramento/jared-e-robinet/
https://www.mylife.com/jared-robinet/jaredrobinet
He muted his microphone immediately after the shooting

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