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Originally posted by Martinna:
The corrupt lying Sacramento police shot an innocent Stephon Clark in his backyard 20 times! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTlZqEsPY78

@1:05 crooked officer "show me your hands"
@1:06 crooked officer pulls back other offer and lies by saying "gun"
@1:10 crooked officer "show me your hands"
@1:11 crooked officer lies again "gun gun gun"
@1:11 crooked officers fire 20 shots..

They even handcuffed his corpse.

Crooked lying cops said he had a gun. Turned out it was just Stephon's white colored cellphone. That's all, just a white smart phone. Why do you put up with such injustice?

Sacramento PD better lock their crooked officers up! In the old days cops didn't have to kill any citizens to learn a lesson. In 1991 corrupt Los Angeles Police senselessly gang beat on one too many of their citizens. The citizens in turn burned the city down in protest! The crooked cops quickly learned their lesson. Learn your history on the LA riots gentleman. Crooked cops learned if they senselessly beat and kill their citizens, they'll get their city senselessly burned down. People aren't going to suffer peacefully for ever.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0ZyGclmCHY

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Originally posted by Martinna:
adower ------ We think he's breaking windows and having a white iPhone. Lets kill him. Justice served?

*Als50* ------ why do you have to inject race into everything?


eldog68 ------ What is your definition of guilty? Does running in your backyard constitute guilt? I didn't hear police identify themselves. If a gang of people run into your backyard, you'll run too.


You three better keep quiet the next time your city is burning and being looted. You've cheered on acts of injustice for years. There will be no sympathy for you when the revolting arm of injustice swings in your direction.

History shows it's inevitable for any country engaged in an endless War posture, that the war mentality, war tactics and war weaponry will be imported to its homeland to be used against its citizens.

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Originally posted by 1990Silver5.0:
So everyone that runs from the police deserves to get killed? What happen to innocent until proven guilty in the court of law? I was young n dumb once. I ran from the police when I was 16 and guess why. They was driving by and saw my friends put his bb gun in his backpack. They did a U turn a few houses down and pulled up guns drown n said freeze. Luckily they wasn't racist assholes or I wouldn't be here right now raising my 2 beautiful children enjoying life as a upstanding american citizen. I was never in a gang or did any drugs but weed about 5 times my whole life (32 now) I just made bad judgement from running. Why did I run? I don't know. Maybe cause my friends did but just cause people run doesn't men they're up to something. That's just a reaction sometimes because your scared and you think the police gonna shoot you anyways so why not run and try to get away.

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adower ---- Can you post evidence Stephon was the one breaking windows? For argument sake is instant execution in one's backyard for breaking a window what this society calls justice? Don't cry too hard when your town is ignited and looted. You and your crooked cops asked for it with your so called justice.

1990Silver5.0 ------ Yes! Police gangs today have gotten carried away with their war weaponry. The crooked police deliberately cut the microphone audio after they murdered Stephon. Remember what crooked police did to father of six Eric Garner. The police gang accused Eric of selling untaxed cigarettes. One crooked cop Daniel Pantaleo choked Eric to death as Eric said I can't breath 11 times ----- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWoZ4Mj9028 What police gangs today call American Justice.


NorCalRydaz ------- Wow. In your country the punishment for running from cops with an iPhone in your hand is getting shot? The punishment for killing people with out a trial has historically been getting your city burned down with riots.

In a free country you're charged with a crime. You defend yourself in a court with a jury of your peers. That's the way it use to be.

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Originally posted by 1990Silver5.0:
So everyone that runs from the police deserves to get killed? What happen to innocent until proven guilty in the court of law? I was young n dumb once. I ran from the police when I was 16 and guess why. They was driving by and saw my friends put his bb gun in his backpack. They did a U turn a few houses down and pulled up guns drown n said freeze. Luckily they wasn't racist assholes or I wouldn't be here right now raising my 2 beautiful children enjoying life as a upstanding american citizen. I was never in a gang or did any drugs but weed about 5 times my whole life (32 now) I just made bad judgement from running. Why did I run? I don't know. Maybe cause my friends did but just cause people run doesn't men they're up to something. That's just a reaction sometimes because your scared and you think the police gonna shoot you anyways so why not run and try to get away.

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Originally posted by Martinna:
The act of a man running is crime punishable by death? In what country? The act of running determines one's guilt? In what country? You need to back this claim up so people can stop laughing. Post links. You need to back up your funny claims. Or maybe there is another reason why you're okay with Stephon's murder? Stephon had no gun, he had no weapon, he made no threats. And there is no evidence he committed a crime. Stephon loved his two small children and was of no threat to the officers.

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Stephon was shot by a foolish gang of cops lying that Stephon's white iphone was a gun. These wild police are out of control. They've testified their fellow officers carry toy guns to plant on people they shoot. Sacramento PD officer Winchester raped women he arrested. Why are you okay with gangs of violent crooked rapists with badges?

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adower ---- Your argument now is Stephon was convicted of a past crime, so he must be guilty of this crime. He was convicted of a past crime and paid his debt to society. In any just society and in all religions, this means you're on even ground. He paid his debt for past transgressions in his youth. What does this have to do with today? You've broken the law got a speeding ticket before. Are you to be afforded any less justice in the future as a result? Are you to be treated more harshly for other unrelated law breaking you in the future? And if so, is acceptable punishment death with out trial by a gang chasing you with guns? You've broken laws in the past before. You ran so you must be guilty. Lets put 20 bullets in your body. You must be guilty. These are your arguments.

Stephon had no gun, he had no weapon, he made no threats. And there is no evidence he committed a crime. Stephon loved his two small children and was of no threat to the officers.

You've been making up one false argument after another. You haven't backed any of them up with links and references. You either have a completely false understanding of the most basic aspects of justice and law or there is another reason you so strongly advocate against justice for Stephon.


*Als50*------ 4th grade? I showed you a picture of a father with his family and children. Show some humanity.


i ---- You're a fake troll. You pretend to type like people you deem to be inferior than you. Quit polluting posts with your fake vernacular, unless you want your pictures and other personal information to be put on blast. There are lots of people here that don't like racists. You won't believe how much people are willing to help out them.

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adower ---- Your argument now is Stephon was convicted of a past crime, so he must be guilty of this crime. He was convicted of a past crime and paid his debt to society. In any just society and in all religions, this means you're on even ground. He paid his debt for past transgressions in his youth. What does this have to do with today? You've broken the law got a speeding ticket before. Are you to be afforded any less justice in the future as a result? Are you to be treated more harshly for other unrelated law breaking you in the future? And if so, is acceptable punishment death with out trial by a gang chasing you with guns? You've broken laws in the past before. You ran so you must be guilty. Lets put 20 bullets in your body. You must be guilty. These are your arguments.

Stephon had no gun, he had no weapon, he made no threats. And there is no evidence he committed a crime. Stephon loved his two small children and was of no threat to the officers.

You've been making up one false argument after another. You haven't backed any of them up with links and references. You either have a completely false understanding of the most basic aspects of justice and law or there is another reason you so strongly advocate against justice for Stephon.


*Als50*------ 4th grade? I showed you a picture of a father with his family and children. Show some humanity.


i ---- You're a fake troll. You pretend to type like people you deem to be inferior than you. Quit polluting posts with your fake vernacular, unless you want your pictures and other personal information to be put on blast. There are lots of people here that don't like racists. You won't believe how much people are willing to help out them.

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No excuses. If he doesn’t run he doesn’t get shot. You tell me why he ran!!

Have I sped and broken laws. Of course. However, If I sped and a cop told me to stop I would. I’m not going to run. If I ran in a car I’d better expect some recourse from the cops.

If his wife were your sister and he beat her and he did his time you’d be okay with that? He would be on moral ground?? You would look that man in the face and shake his hand? Yes I do think less of him after knowing that fact.

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First of all we definitely know what kind of cop you would be. Take the law and life in your own hands. Throw all that innocent until proven guilty shit out the window huh


Running from the cops on foot not knowing why and speeding and knowing why you getting pulled over can't be compared. You know exactly why you getting pulled over. How many COPS episodes have you seen and how many people ran? How many got killed or even shot at?

Shit I have my insurance info on my phone. I'm afraid to grab my phone if I get pulled over now because a cop that has your mentality will think it's a gun.

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adower ---- Your argument now is Stephon was convicted of a past crime, so he must be guilty of this crime. He was convicted of a past crime and paid his debt to society. In any just society and in all religions, this means you're on even ground. He paid his debt for past transgressions in his youth. What does this have to do with today? You've broken the law got a speeding ticket before. Are you to be afforded any less justice in the future as a result? Are you to be treated more harshly for other unrelated law breaking you in the future? And if so, is acceptable punishment death with out trial by a gang chasing you with guns? You've broken laws in the past before. You ran so you must be guilty. Lets put 20 bullets in your body. You must be guilty. These are your arguments.

Stephon had no gun, he had no weapon, he made no threats. And there is no evidence he committed a crime. Stephon loved his two small children and was of no threat to the officers.

You've been making up one false argument after another. You haven't backed any of them up with links and references. You either have a completely false understanding of the most basic aspects of justice and law or there is another reason you so strongly advocate against justice for Stephon.


*Als50*------ 4th grade? I showed you a picture of a father with his family and children. Show some humanity.


i ---- You're a fake troll. You pretend to type like people you deem to be inferior than you. Quit polluting posts with your fake vernacular, unless you want your pictures and other personal information to be put on blast. There are lots of people here that don't like racists. You won't believe how much people are willing to help out them.

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No excuses. If he doesn’t run he doesn’t get shot. You tell me why he ran!!

Have I sped and broken laws. Of course. However, If I sped and a cop told me to stop I would. I’m not going to run. If I ran in a car I’d better expect some recourse from the cops.

If his wife were your sister and he beat her and he did his time you’d be okay with that? He would be on moral ground?? You would look that man in the face and shake his hand? Yes I do think less of him after knowing that fact.

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First of all we definitely know what kind of cop you would be. Take the law and life in your own hands. Throw all that innocent until proven guilty shit out the window huh


Running from the cops on foot not knowing why and speeding and knowing why you getting pulled over can't be compared. You know exactly why you getting pulled over. How many COPS episodes have you seen and how many people ran? How many got killed or even shot at?

Shit I have my insurance info on my phone. I'm afraid to grab my phone if I get pulled over now because a cop that has your mentality will think it's a gun.

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Originally posted by East Bay 50:
Martina, Why do you even bother arguing with these guys? They will never see any other point of view but there own. shooting an unarmed person if they run is against the law period. No cop should be doing that type of shit.

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