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Originally posted by Mineralgt:
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Originally posted by SteveL:
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His job is to control only if there is a crime being committed.
Well no, that's not the case. A cop can question you, detain you, put you in handcuffs during his investigation. You can be arrested on suspicion of having committed a crime. Whether or not a crime was actually committed is determined in court. Telling a cop "I don't need to comply with you because I feel I'm innocent" is not going to work. Anywhere. Anytime.

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That officer gave exactly zero reason for being there.
He didn't have to. It is their job to patrol the streets. Sure you can film it. That TV show Cops has been on for years before cell phone cameras were popular.

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Once again if you or I did what that cop did we would be in jail. Police are not above the law, they have to enforce AND obey the same laws.
That's not exactly true either. The difference between us and cops is they have a badge which allows them, within reason, to break laws that you and I would be arrested for so they can do their job. You can argue what does "Within reason" mean and that's a very valid point. There's been a lot of headlines / videos where it's questionable or even not "within reason". Just don't make a bad situation worse by fighting with a cop. If it's not within reason, hire Burris, take it to court, and sue the city for a few million but do that afterwards.

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I could care less if the guy is an asshole or not.
The cop probably does. The cop is walking into an unknown situation. He will be on high alert. The best thing you can do is lower his alert level by acting sensible and reasonable. I doubt there's anything you can say to a cop that he hasn't heard before. But start acting dangerous, or weird or evasive and he'll keep one hand on his holster.

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And I am guessing that if the cop tells you to get on your knees and open your mouth you would because you are not a lawyer?
Get real.

Thank god someone with some brains.
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quote:
Originally posted by jmcclesk:
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Originally posted by Mineralgt:
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Originally posted by SteveL:
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His job is to control only if there is a crime being committed.
Well no, that's not the case. A cop can question you, detain you, put you in handcuffs during his investigation. You can be arrested on suspicion of having committed a crime. Whether or not a crime was actually committed is determined in court. Telling a cop "I don't need to comply with you because I feel I'm innocent" is not going to work. Anywhere. Anytime.

quote:
That officer gave exactly zero reason for being there.
He didn't have to. It is their job to patrol the streets. Sure you can film it. That TV show Cops has been on for years before cell phone cameras were popular.

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Once again if you or I did what that cop did we would be in jail. Police are not above the law, they have to enforce AND obey the same laws.
That's not exactly true either. The difference between us and cops is they have a badge which allows them, within reason, to break laws that you and I would be arrested for so they can do their job. You can argue what does "Within reason" mean and that's a very valid point. There's been a lot of headlines / videos where it's questionable or even not "within reason". Just don't make a bad situation worse by fighting with a cop. If it's not within reason, hire Burris, take it to court, and sue the city for a few million but do that afterwards.

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I could care less if the guy is an asshole or not.
The cop probably does. The cop is walking into an unknown situation. He will be on high alert. The best thing you can do is lower his alert level by acting sensible and reasonable. I doubt there's anything you can say to a cop that he hasn't heard before. But start acting dangerous, or weird or evasive and he'll keep one hand on his holster.

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And I am guessing that if the cop tells you to get on your knees and open your mouth you would because you are not a lawyer?
Get real.

Thank god someone with some brains.
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quote:
Originally posted by AL STOCK:
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Originally posted by jmcclesk:
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Originally posted by Mineralgt:
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Originally posted by SteveL:
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His job is to control only if there is a crime being committed.
Well no, that's not the case. A cop can question you, detain you, put you in handcuffs during his investigation. You can be arrested on suspicion of having committed a crime. Whether or not a crime was actually committed is determined in court. Telling a cop "I don't need to comply with you because I feel I'm innocent" is not going to work. Anywhere. Anytime.

quote:
That officer gave exactly zero reason for being there.
He didn't have to. It is their job to patrol the streets. Sure you can film it. That TV show Cops has been on for years before cell phone cameras were popular.

quote:
Once again if you or I did what that cop did we would be in jail. Police are not above the law, they have to enforce AND obey the same laws.
That's not exactly true either. The difference between us and cops is they have a badge which allows them, within reason, to break laws that you and I would be arrested for so they can do their job. You can argue what does "Within reason" mean and that's a very valid point. There's been a lot of headlines / videos where it's questionable or even not "within reason". Just don't make a bad situation worse by fighting with a cop. If it's not within reason, hire Burris, take it to court, and sue the city for a few million but do that afterwards.

quote:
I could care less if the guy is an asshole or not.
The cop probably does. The cop is walking into an unknown situation. He will be on high alert. The best thing you can do is lower his alert level by acting sensible and reasonable. I doubt there's anything you can say to a cop that he hasn't heard before. But start acting dangerous, or weird or evasive and he'll keep one hand on his holster.

quote:
And I am guessing that if the cop tells you to get on your knees and open your mouth you would because you are not a lawyer?
Get real.

Thank god someone with some brains.
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Child should have just sucked it up eh?

http://www.centralmaine.com/2014/11/04/ex-maine-state-police-chief-expected-to-plead-guilty-to-sex-assault/


These children should have sucked it up too eh?

http://www.kboi2.com/news/local/102018443.html?tab=video&c=y

These ladies should have been lawyers

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/ex-okla-cop-accused-of-sexual-assault-during-traffic-stops/

I am sure he was just doing his duty

http://abcnews.go.com/US/texas-police-officer-accused-traffic-stop-rape/story?id=21010823


Many more stories where these come from so I am just going to assume you would get on your knees if told by a cop so you can sort it out later since..well you know...we are not lawyers.

[ 2015-08-17, 09:52 PM: Message edited by: CoyoteMike ]

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This story is going to be on KTVU channel 2 tonight at 10.

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quote:
Originally posted by twisted54:
This story is going to be on KTVU channel 2 tonight at 10.

So don is a asshole an this video just proves what we already know about him.
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What a waste of airtime....

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quote:
Originally posted by hurting your feelings:
quote:
Originally posted by twisted54:
This story is going to be on KTVU channel 2 tonight at 10.

So don is a asshole an this video just proves what we already know about him.
Channel did a story about a second case of police overstepping their bounds on video in the same city. Patterns are emerging and will help Don's civil suit.

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quote:
Originally posted by CoyoteMike:
quote:
Originally posted by hurting your feelings:
quote:
Originally posted by twisted54:
This story is going to be on KTVU channel 2 tonight at 10.

So don is a asshole an this video just proves what we already know about him.
Channel did a story about a second case of police overstepping their bounds on video in the same city. Patterns are emerging and will help Don's civil suit.
What about the pattern of Don being a lowlife living at his ex wife's house being bored video taping the cops...
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quote:
Originally posted by 135.0:
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Originally posted by CoyoteMike:
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Originally posted by hurting your feelings:
quote:
Originally posted by twisted54:
This story is going to be on KTVU channel 2 tonight at 10.

So don is a asshole an this video just proves what we already know about him.
Channel did a story about a second case of police overstepping their bounds on video in the same city. Patterns are emerging and will help Don's civil suit.
What about the pattern of Don being a lowlife living at his ex wife's house being bored video taping the cops...
How does that equate to a low-life? I picture the ghetto tards on this website doing sideshows as low-life pond scum...so I guess we have different definitions of low-life

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Don has been lurking on the site. He doesn't care for Dave too much and decided to reach out to me.
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I guess he forgot about calling me a FAG for supporting Alex Smith.

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Originally posted by SLOWBACK 67:
Don has been lurking on the site. He doesn't care for Dave too much and decided to reach out to me.
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I guess he forgot about calling me a FAG for supporting Alex Smith.

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Typical pussy move for Don
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Don will not do shit. He would run with tail tucked like Bruce Jenner. And Don if your reading this we can handle are beef any way you would like.
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http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/08/28/rohnert-park-police-raid-mans-home-in-retaliation-for-critical-facebook-post-video/

This was my reply to the previous PM a few days ago:
No one has EVER demanded he be held accountable for his words. He said I'm a thief to him, owed him a transmission part and never paid up. That's not me, I don't know him and have never met him before

Regarding my video, like Ive told every reporter, the video is from before the confrontation, to the officer pulling away, un edited and it speaks for itself.

[ 2015-09-01, 09:12 PM: Message edited by: hidnn0s ]

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That police department seems corrupt as fuck

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quote:
Originally posted by hidnn0s:
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/08/28/rohnert-park-police-raid-mans-home-in-retaliation-for-critical-facebook-post-video/

This was my reply to the previous PM a few days ago:
No one has EVER demanded he be held accountable for his words. He said I'm a thief to him, owed him a transmission part and never paid up. That's not me, I don't know him and have never met him before

Regarding my video, like Ive told every reporter, the video is from before the confrontation, to the officer pulling away, un edited and it speaks for itself.

Don you kind sir are a liar.
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Your own words are coming back to hunt you like a bad rash.

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7 years ago?!?! I assure you I don't remember that or you, if we met in ANY way. I wish I knew then, if legit, the person you are because I'd never have given you a penny of my money.

So, to back you up, it sounds like that transaction was positive, why would you "lie" saying I ever left you hanging on a dollar or part? JohnB, Lee, and any other member I sold or purchased anything from knows I'd never screw anyone over. My integrity is worth far more than that...

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Originally posted by hidnn0s:
7 years ago?!?! I assure you I don't remember that or you, if we met in ANY way. I wish I knew then, if legit, the person you are because I'd never have given you a penny of my money.

So, to back you up, it sounds like that transaction was positive, why would you "lie" saying I ever left you hanging on a dollar or part? JohnB, Lee, and any other member I sold or purchased anything from knows I'd never screw anyone over. My integrity is worth far more than that...

I remember everyone I do business with its what up standing people do.an just show your just about the money and nothing else. And now I know why the call you the drama queen on norcal1320.com.
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There is no reason to continue. PM me if you want to. I always gave them shit when they posted boasting how they shut this site down. I liked and had many good parts transactions with the member who had the silver turbo old Camaro. One time he even left a trans (or was it a differential?) outside which i picked up middle of the day and left him cash. I strongly disliked the guy with the old Mustang for always talking shit about this sites mods (as I recall his sister was also a fast car owner)

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Don you once said the raiders suck and although it was accurate I owe you a punch in the face for that.

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Don do you really wash cars for a living and live on your ex's couch, or do crappy unlicensed contractor work which is why your neighbors keep calling the cops on you which started this whole viral video bullshit? You still owe Dave a transmission yoke or something? No? We want answers now!
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http://kron4.com/2015/10/29/city-says-rohnert-park-public-safety-officer-acted-reasonably-in-july-encounter-with-citizen/

Lol

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Originally posted by hurting your feelings:
http://kron4.com/2015/10/29/city-says-rohnert-park-public-safety-officer-acted-reasonably-in-july-encounter-with-citizen/

Lol

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