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Wildfire532FB
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Virginia Beach Teens Killed at Intersection
Posted By Brenda Walker On 3 April 2007 @ 3:59 pm In General | Comments Disabled
Below, Tessa Tranchant, 16, left, and Allison Kunhardt, 17, were killed late Friday.
According to grieving father Ray Tranchant, his daughter Tessa and her best friend Allison Kunhardt, “were just sitting at the light, strapped in their seat belts. They were just doing what they were supposed to be doing.”
But obeying the law is not enough protection any more, since drunk-driving illegal aliens are making the roads a [1] far more hazardous place. The accused, illegal alien Alfredo Ramos, was apparently so blotto that he doesn’t even remember the accident.
Afterward, [Ramos] told him he had no memory of the crash. He learned from authorities that he had killed two people, his brother said.
Ramos, who was born in Mexico of Guatemalan parents, has been in the United States for about seven years.
[[2] Suspect in crash that killed 2 had alcohol-related convictions, Hampton Roads Pilot 4/3/07]
Ramos had a [3] prior DUI conviction in Chesapeake this year, so if Rep. Sue Myrick’s [4] Scott Gardner Act had been law, he would have been [5] immediately deported for being a drunk-driving illegal alien. The legislation, originally written in 2005, has been [6] resubmitted in this Congress as [7] HR1355.
The girls were very close friends, known to finish each other’s sentences. Tessa’s mom Colette called the two [8] “inseparable.” They were outgoing, fun-loving and had many friends. It’s a terrible tragedy that their lives ended so young, and that the accident could have been prevented if Washington were doing its job of maintaining [9] secure borders.
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Wildfire532FB
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The 24-year-old man suspected of causing the accident that killed film director Bob Clark and his son had a bloodalcohol level three times the legal limit, authorities said Thursday.
Hector Manuel Velazquez-Nava, a native of Mexico who federal authorities said was in the U.S. illegally, faces possible charges of vehicular manslaughter, driving without a license and driving under the influence of alcohol. He suffered minor injuries in the early Wednesday accident on Pacific Coast Highway and is being held at the Van Nuys Jail. Although bail has been set at $100,000, his undocumented status makes him ineligible for release on bond, police said.
Minutes after the director of "A Christmas Story" left his Pacific Palisades condo to drive his son Ariel, 22, home to Santa Monica, their southbound 1997 Infiniti sedan was struck head-on by the northbound 2007 GMC Yukon driven by Velazquez-Nava, said Los Angeles Police Det. Mike Fischer.
The high-speed collision left the mangled vehicles about 100 feet apart amid a long trail of debris, including parts of wheels, undercarriages and axles.
The passenger sides of both vehicles sustained the heaviest damage, indicating that Velazquez-Nava may have swerved toward the ocean and Clark the opposite way as they collided at high speed.
Police haven't finished their investigation, Fischer said, but it appears the Yukon entered the southbound lane and Clark, 67, swerved left in an attempt to avoid the collision. The first of several calls to 911 came at 2:24 a.m., Fischer said. Paramedics arrived shortly after. The Clarks, who were pinned in the wreckage, were pronounced dead at 2:34 a.m. Fischer said he didn't know whether the Clarks were wearing seat belts or whether their vehicle air bags had deployed.
Velazquez-Nava, who was wearing a seat belt, got out of the SUV and was walking around after the collision, Fischer said. His passenger, Lydia Mora, 29, of Azusa, was treated for minor injuries and released.
Velazquez-Nava had a blood alcohol level of 0.24 percent, three times the 0.08 legal limit for driving. There was no evidence the Clarks had been drinking, Fischer said.
Velazquez-Nava does not have documentation of legal U.S. residency, nor does he appear to have ever had a U.S. driver's license, Fischer said. The Yukon was registered to Velazquez-Nava, who claimed to have insurance, but police haven't been able to verify any, Fischer said.
Velazquez-Nava lives in Los Angeles, but little other information was available. He told authorities that he was on his way from Hollywood to West Covina when he crashed, although he was traveling in the opposite direction. Fischer said Velazquez-Nava was probably lost.
Law enforcement sources said Velazquez-Nava pleaded guilty in 2005 in Los Angeles to a prostitution-related charge and was sentenced to two years' probation. He could face at least four to 10 years imprisonment if convicted of vehicular manslaughter.
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Geraldo makes excellent points.. i think the same way.
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![[Frown]](frown.gif) very sad story. I do not understand why someone here illegally, caught driving under the influence would not be deported immidiately ![[Mad]](mad.gif) there should not be such a thing as "sanctuary cities"
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What's with the illegals? you racist, why won't you type shit when your own race committ crimes(serial killers, rapist ect....) what's your problem with illegals??? All of us in the U.S are illegals, and the only ones who are originally form here are the Native Americans. First learn your history and then talk your shit! -THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND HAVE A NICE DAY!!!! ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
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Fuck that shit. Illegal aliens should be deported IMMEDIATELY. Come into the states the right way or STAY THE FUCK OUT ![[patriot]](graemlins/patriot.gif)
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Originally posted by 87#184saleen:
What's with the illegals? you racist, why won't you type shit when your own race committ crimes(serial killers, rapist ect....) what's your problem with illegals??? All of us in the U.S are illegals, and the only ones who are originally form here are the Native Americans. First learn your history and then talk your shit! -THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND HAVE A NICE DAY!!!!
Invite them into your house for them to live then, free of charge.
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Originally posted by hidnn.o.s.:
Fuck that shit. Illegal aliens should be deported IMMEDIATELY. Come into the states the right way or STAY THE FUCK OUT
yea i hate going to the bank and having to pick english or soanish. this is a america mother fucker. speak english and obey the laws. yea we all make mistakes... but illegals just dont care.... and that wrong. poor girls had to have there life cut short cause of that. yea i kno shit happens. but if people could obey law and be more carying this in life would excell to better things. there is to much greed and poverity... that why america is going down hill.
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by hidnn.o.s.:
Fuck that shit. Illegal aliens should be deported IMMEDIATELY. Come into the states the right way or STAY THE FUCK OUT [/QUOTE
I know what you mean, but it doesn't mean that if one committes a crime we all should pay for that one person, also if it wasn't for the illegals the U.S wouldn't be the same. Why? the clothes your wearing, the food you eating, the house you live in,are made by illegal alliens why bitch about it when we do need them becouse nobody will pick fruit from the orchards for $5 dollars an hour.
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Originally posted by 87#184saleen:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by hidnn.o.s.:
Fuck that shit. Illegal aliens should be deported IMMEDIATELY. Come into the states the right way or STAY THE FUCK OUT [/QUOTE
I know what you mean, but it doesn't mean that if one committes a crime we all should pay for that one person, also if it wasn't for the illegals the U.S wouldn't be the same. Why? the clothes your wearing, the food you eating, the house you live in,are made by illegal alliens why bitch about it when we do need them becouse nobody will pick fruit from the orchards for $5 dollars an hour.
Man, you've seemed like a nice kid in the past but I have to call ![[BS flag]](graemlins/bs_flag.gif) on "your" stance/opinion on this subject.
This is only my "opinion/.02."
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Originally posted by 87#184saleen:
What's with the illegals? you racist, why won't you type shit when your own race committ crimes(serial killers, rapist ect....) what's your problem with illegals??? All of us in the U.S are illegals, and the only ones who are originally form here are the Native Americans. First learn your history and then talk your shit! -THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND HAVE A NICE DAY!!!!
Send the illegal scum back to where they came from.
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Originally posted by 87#184saleen:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by hidnn.o.s.:
Fuck that shit. Illegal aliens should be deported IMMEDIATELY. Come into the states the right way or STAY THE FUCK OUT [/QUOTE
I know what you mean, but it doesn't mean that if one committes a crime we all should pay for that one person, also if it wasn't for the illegals the U.S wouldn't be the same. Why? the clothes your wearing, the food you eating, the house you live in,are made by illegal alliens why bitch about it when we do need them becouse nobody will pick fruit from the orchards for $5 dollars an hour.
Man, you've seemed like a nice kid in the past but I have to call on "your" stance/opinion on this subject.
This is only my "opinion/.02."
first of all im not no kid im 27 second im just giving you guys a hard time its just my opinion
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welcome to america, you can do just about anything and get away with it. Thats why there are so many pieces of Sh*t out there just look around when you drive, it crazy, I say they just kill him
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Originally posted by 87#184saleen:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by hidnn.o.s.:
Fuck that shit. Illegal aliens should be deported IMMEDIATELY. Come into the states the right way or STAY THE FUCK OUT [/QUOTE
I know what you mean, but it doesn't mean that if one committes a crime we all should pay for that one person, also if it wasn't for the illegals the U.S wouldn't be the same. Why? the clothes your wearing, the food you eating, the house you live in,are made by illegal alliens why bitch about it when we do need them becouse nobody will pick fruit from the orchards for $5 dollars an hour.
+1 ......... My parents came here illegaly, just some people dont understand, people want to live in the us and have a better life. Mexico was really bad years ago and it prob still is. My parents been u.s. citezens for years. My mom cant really speak it but understands it good. my dad's speaks both. . Its just not english, people have there other languages too. . My family know some friends that are illigals and just got here or like 4 years ago and working hard, trying to get there things straight when possible. They want a better life, Like we have Now. So I understand any other people comming from other countries. Its better with all these type of races,colors,Everything. Imagin every one the same color and spoke the same language ![[Roll Eyes]](rolleyes.gif)
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Shit i can bring tons of Other races that Drinked and drive and killed people just the SAME! Not all are the same, there Hard ass working people here that mind there buisness trying to get a better LIFE.
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But thats how it is in amreica . Some of the people that are born here will always be fucking racist, i ignore those faggots, I was born here and undestand the ones that come illegaly and or llegaly how ever the fuck they come,boat ,walk what ever, its how they act when they come to the u.s either they take advantage of it or mind there buisness and have a better life!
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welcome to america, you can do just about anything and get away with it. Thats why there are so many pieces of Sh*t out there just look around when you drive, it crazy, I say they just kill him
exactly! there will always be other type of races comming into this country FOR EVER So get use too it to some of you racist assholes ![[Whoo Whooooo!]](graemlins/woowoo.gif) im not directly saying this to just one, too everyone thats racist. just some dont understand fuck it, whatever. Im done posting on this disscusion. Its too everyones opinion and what they gone through, so i understands everyones opinion even the racist ones becuase here in america there a little bit of everything
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Originally posted by 51505.0:
welcome to america, you can do just about anything and get away with it. Thats why there are so many pieces of Sh*t out there just look around when you drive, it crazy, I say they just kill him
exactly! there will always be other type of races comming into this country FOR EVER So get use too it to some of you racist assholes im not directly saying this to just one, too everyone thats racist. just some dont understand. fuck it, im dont whoring it
STFU and put your card back in your pocket
It's about coming into this country "LEGALLY." There is a legal way, DO IT THAT WAY.
Shove your card back into your pocket and make 12 more posts
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LOL My card Will Always be Half out my pocket bud. Everywhere i go and ill continue posting and stealing your face
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yeah theres ways to do it but some people dont have the money.
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i know what your talking about don, im not pulling the card on you of that opinion. just people saying . just english . I wish it could be just english , hell i forgot most of all my spanish but theres tons of other races here so i have to understand that.It's just like pulling up to jack in the box and the fucker cant speak english very good, fuck that pisses me off! but in a way i have to understand,shit atleast there tring and tring to learn the launguage and are working not just taking advantageof it. just my opinion about it.
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man, i really should stay out of this thread. personally, i feel there's bad apples in every racial group.. just because he was illegal makes the whole situation worse? come on now, that's complete bullsh*t. granted he did f*ck up in the past, i blame our judicial system and lenience. a) he shouldn't be driving - period. or b) we should've deported his ass after he f*cked up the first time. i know that the issue with illegals is a bit of a sensitive subject, but there's good and bad reasons to have them here.. carry on.
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I understand that. I also don't like having to push 1 for english etc, BUT THAT DOES NOT MAKE ME A RACIST BY ANY MEANS..... Nor do I like calling my 800 number for my bank and the person on the other end not speaking or understanding English. If I go or move to Mexico (for example) or ANY other country, you better believe I'm going to learn their language. There are many reasons, one of them is out of respect.
I'm not racist by ANY means, just my view.
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We R America, mexicans work hard for everything racist fucks it could be any drunk driving race
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