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Okay.., So I've been in the Mustang game a good while now, over 8 years and I have had them from mild to wild., I've had over 15 different foxbodies in various configurations, several SN's 5.0's/4.6's and also a very missed 2003 Cobra. All in all they are great but for the time and effort that goes into making them what I consider decent it takes alot of time and alot of money.., except for the termi's they come decently powered from the factory. Even with my supercharged foxbodies I felt that there was more to be desired. Being that it took an H/C/I and an S/C in my 5.0 just to be able to put the smokes on an LS1 Camaro. That being said for the kind of factory power that I am looking for ,,,, the only option in the mustang scene would be another 03/04 Cobra, the only thing is..., is that I am not looking to spend 15-20k for another one. So that's where I'm at , I have been considering the 4th gen Camaro because you can get 400+HP out of them with mere bolt-ons and all for less than 10k. there's a decommissioned 2002 CHP Camaro that I have been looking at for a good price and just want to hear what the other people on here who own LS cars have to say and what you guys think in comparison to mustangs.
Alright thanks.
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Yes SOME are fast but lets just admit it they're fuckin gay.
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If you cant beat'em , join'em
I did, I love the six speed too
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Well... a few things about them to note; they come with a SLA double A-arm front suspension and the rear has a torque arm/panhard rod setup... stock
considering the shortcomings of the MacPherson front and 4-link SRA rear in the Mustang usually lead to owners switching to a torque arm/panhard setup at some point... it's nice to have that technology stock.
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They are fast stock, trap around 102 to 107+ with bolt ons.
There is no room for a passenger, or anything in the trunk. They dont handle near as good as you might think.
Things that break, everything is aluminum. Mine overheated once, was never the same ever again.
Driveshafts snap, torque arms tear at bolt holes, rearend weaker then a paper clip.
The 6spd is like heaven, you wont miss five speeds ever again. The trans 2nd gear synchros are similar to the t5, easy to break.
I got 30mpg consistently, and around 20 around town.
And all it takes is a cam to hit 400whp. Less then $1500 to gain 50whp.
They are heavy and you will notice it, but at end of the day a cars a car. Keep the fox, a properly setup fox is cheaper and faster every time.
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Originally posted by 04 S281:
Well... a few things about them to note; they come with a SLA double A-arm front suspension and the rear has a torque arm/panhard rod setup... stock
considering the shortcomings of the MacPherson front and 4-link SRA rear in the Mustang usually lead to owners switching to a torque arm/panhard setup at some point... it's nice to have that technology stock.
I'll be sure to keep note of that, there is several reasons why I have been considering a 4th gen Camaro and the main reasons are simply that they are more equipped from the factory with more performance oriented parts in comparison to the mustangs of the same time period.
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Thanks Wrench, you have pointed out some good flaws that I will take into consideration.
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They are fast stock, trap around 102 to 107+ with bolt ons.
There is no room for a passenger, or anything in the trunk. They dont handle near as good as you might think.
Things that break, everything is aluminum. Mine overheated once, was never the same ever again.
Driveshafts snap, torque arms tear at bolt holes, rearend weaker then a paper clip.
The 6spd is like heaven, you wont miss five speeds ever again. The trans 2nd gear synchros are similar to the t5, easy to break.
I got 30mpg consistently, and around 20 around town.
And all it takes is a cam to hit 400whp. Less then $1500 to gain 50whp.
They are heavy and you will notice it, but at end of the day a cars a car. Keep the fox, a properly setup fox is cheaper and faster every time.
[ April 12, 2012, 12:02 AM: Message edited by: RONIN ]
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Originally posted by Platinum Detail:
If you cant beat'em , join'em
I did, I love the six speed too
Lol, I hear ya. I personally like the six speeds also.
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my bro has one, it's a pain to work in the engine. ex: changing spark plugs if you have big hands it sucks. too me like 2 hours couldn't get the last spark plug in ![[Mad]](mad.gif) lol
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i would look into a trans am ws6 instead they just look alot better ![[patriot]](graemlins/patriot.gif)
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i would look into a trans am ws6 instead they just look alot better
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i would look into a trans am ws6 instead they just look alot better
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Originally posted by Wrenchin:
They are fast stock, trap around 102 to 107+ with bolt ons.
There is no room for a passenger, or anything in the trunk. They dont handle near as good as you might think.
Things that break, everything is aluminum. Mine overheated once, was never the same ever again.
Driveshafts snap, torque arms tear at bolt holes, rearend weaker then a paper clip.
The 6spd is like heaven, you wont miss five speeds ever again. The trans 2nd gear synchros are similar to the t5, easy to break.
I got 30mpg consistently, and around 20 around town.
And all it takes is a cam to hit 400whp. Less then $1500 to gain 50whp.
They are heavy and you will notice it, but at end of the day a cars a car. Keep the fox, a properly setup fox is cheaper and faster every time.
Well said, also first thing I would recommend is getting yourself to the track for practice or suspension. It should not take H/C/I and an S/C to beat an LS1 (Depending on mods)
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Originally posted by RONIN:
Okay.., So I've been in the Mustang game a good while now, over 8 years and I have had them from mild to wild., I've had over 15 different foxbodies in various configurations, several SN's 5.0's/4.6's and also a very missed 2003 Cobra. All in all they are great but for the time and effort that goes into making them what I consider decent it takes alot of time and alot of money.., except for the termi's they come decently powered from the factory. Even with my supercharged foxbodies I felt that there was more to be desired. Being that it took an H/C/I and an S/C in my 5.0 just to be able to put the smokes on an LS1 Camaro. That being said for the kind of factory power that I am looking for ,,,, the only option in the mustang scene would be another 03/04 Cobra, the only thing is..., is that I am not looking to spend 15-20k for another one. So that's where I'm at , I have been considering the 4th gen Camaro because you can get 400+HP out of them with mere bolt-ons and all for less than 10k. there's a decommissioned 2002 CHP Camaro that I have been looking at for a good price and just want to hear what the other people on here who own LS cars have to say and what you guys think in comparison to mustangs.
Alright thanks.
You must be doing something wrong if it took a hci and a charger cause sic9250 and warhorse used to kill ss camaros and ws6's with bolt ons and they only had hci setups so id say back to the lab for you...
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![[Wink]](wink.gif) Edit: +1 on heading back to the lab cause thats just sad"
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I've always been into stangs but will for sure own a ls1 in this lifetime. Got a few buddys with ls1's and i cant hate on them they deff got a nice power plant and are real easy to make power with them and still be reliable. I'm more of a fan of the ws6's so if you decide to get the camaro i am sure you wont regret it they are fun cars. I love any car that make's power. Good luck with your search playa. ![[burnout]](graemlins/burnout.gif)
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Good ole Fbody ass whoopin days ![[Razz]](tongue.gif)
Justin remembers lol warhorse and I used to own bolt-on non cammed fbodys at the fri/sat night races in stockton...iron heads/e cam/and a pro-prod. Intake with a factory h pipe back to the lab bud
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I've always been into stangs but will for sure own a ls1 in this lifetime. Got a few buddys with ls1's and i cant hate on them they deff got a nice power plant and are real easy to make power with them and still be reliable. I'm more of a fan of the ws6's so if you decide to get the camaro i am sure you wont regret it they are fun cars. I love any car that make's power. Good luck with your search playa.
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Whoa Whoa now, don't get ahead of yourself fellas. I have had plenty of seat time, not at the track but on the streets for sure. The foxes I am speaking of had good suspension and great weight transfer. I said it took an H/C/I and s/c to "put the smokes on ls1 Camaro's" I'm talking bus lengths . I would still get some good runs in with only the H/C/I setup versus stock Ls1's but the ls1's with boltons and sticky tires were still faster. With the my s/c setup I was serving them left and right. But still for the amount of work to make a fox faster than an ls1 camaro is alot and not to say if you do the same mods to an ls1 the fox would look pathetic. Plain and simple ls1's have a better engine design and can maximze power better.
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Originally posted by ISP89LX:
I've always been into stangs but will for sure own a ls1 in this lifetime. Got a few buddys with ls1's and i cant hate on them they deff got a nice power plant and are real easy to make power with them and still be reliable. I'm more of a fan of the ws6's so if you decide to get the camaro i am sure you wont regret it they are fun cars. I love any car that make's power. Good luck with your search playa.
For sure Dooo, I like the ws6's too theyre just out my price range.
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Originally posted by SIC9250:
Good ole Fbody ass whoopin days
Justin remembers lol warhorse and I used to own bolt-on non cammed fbodys at the fri/sat night races in stockton...iron heads/e cam/and a pro-prod. Intake with a factory h pipe back to the lab bud
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He only LS1 I'd ever own is a WS6 or a C5... Cameros are just fugly!!! I've been considering picking up a 6-speed C5 for around 10k and H/C/I it putting most to shame... Plus the HUD on the windshield is DOPE ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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He only LS1 I'd ever own is a WS6 or a C5... Cameros are just fugly!!! I've been considering picking up a 6-speed C5 for around 10k and H/C/I it putting most to shame... Plus the HUD on the windshield is DOPE
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Originally posted by cali95gt:
He only LS1 I'd ever own is a WS6 or a C5... Cameros are just fugly!!! I've been considering picking up a 6-speed C5 for around 10k and H/C/I it putting most to shame... Plus the HUD on the windshield is DOPE
Yup, them cars are just ugly.. WS6's are alot nicer looking
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