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hilltim54
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I got a homeboy that thinks a supercharged 408 fox cant beat a supercharged 383 camaro.. Both cars automatic, drag radials, fulltrim with ac, etc.. And 4.10 gears
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v-town coupe
Member # 2771
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what year camaro and what are the blower setups and psi?
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hilltim54
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quote: Originally posted by v-town coupe: what year camaro and what are the blower setups and psi?
Lol any ls1 camaro.. But the fox with a vortech t trim with a intercooler at 15 psi and the maro kenne bell he said with the same psi... To be honest, I think.the fox will take it hands down.. He is one.of those guys that think chevys will walk all over fords no.matter wat...
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stanger50_vet
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vid or FAIL
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LS1
Member # 9529
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quote: Originally posted by hilltim54: quote: Originally posted by v-town coupe: what year camaro and what are the blower setups and psi?
Lol any ls1 camaro.. But the fox with a vortech t trim with a intercooler at 15 psi and the maro kenne bell he said with the same psi... To be honest, I think.the fox will take it hands down.. He is one.of those guys that think chevys will walk all over fords no.matter wat...
More to it thatn displacement, on a blower setup compression is the biggest factor.
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87#184saleen
Member # 6276
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I think the fox is lighter and more cubes and 410 gears ill rather run 355 or 373 on a blown car [ June 26, 2011, 06:31 PM: Message edited by: 87#184saleen ]
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LS1
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quote: Originally posted by 87#184saleen: I think the fox is lighter and more cubes and 410 gears ill rather run 355 or 373 on a blown car
Yeah, and a 383 all aluminum will be more efficient with a KB blower over a vortech. A vortech will run out of breath up top on a 408.
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87#184saleen
Member # 6276
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quote: Originally posted by LS1: quote: Originally posted by 87#184saleen: I think the fox is lighter and more cubes and 410 gears ill rather run 355 or 373 on a blown car
Yeah, and a 383 all aluminum will be more efficient with a KB blower over a vortech. A vortech will run out of breath up top on a 408.
My vortech is pushing 23+ boost I don't have a problem @ all [ June 26, 2011, 06:38 PM: Message edited by: 87#184saleen ]
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Zeke
Member # 9432
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quote: Originally posted by hilltim54: quote: Originally posted by v-town coupe: what year camaro and what are the blower setups and psi?
Lol any ls1 camaro.. But the fox with a vortech t trim with a intercooler at 15 psi and the maro kenne bell he said with the same psi... To be honest, I think.the fox will take it hands down.. He is one.of those guys that think chevys will walk all over fords no.matter wat...
I'm not calling you a liar but find it hard to believe that your boy is running a Kenne Bell blower on an LS1. They don't even make kits for LS1 (except the C5 Vettes). The only PD blower kit available for 4th Gen F-Bodies is a custom kit using a Maggie setup. Now without getting technical, I think the the Fox would win because of: better power to weight ratio than the Camaro, bigger motor and the simple fact that centrifugal superchargers are more effecient than PD superchargers.
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Smoked50
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quote: Originally posted by 87#184saleen: quote: Originally posted by LS1: quote: Originally posted by 87#184saleen: I think the fox is lighter and more cubes and 410 gears ill rather run 355 or 373 on a blown car
Yeah, and a 383 all aluminum will be more efficient with a KB blower over a vortech. A vortech will run out of breath up top on a 408.
My vortech is pushing 23+ boost I don't have a problem @ all
He was talking about a vortech on a 408. But if you have a 408 pushing 23+ lbs boost then
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hilltim54
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quote: Originally posted by Zeke: quote: Originally posted by hilltim54: quote: Originally posted by v-town coupe: what year camaro and what are the blower setups and psi?
Lol any ls1 camaro.. But the fox with a vortech t trim with a intercooler at 15 psi and the maro kenne bell he said with the same psi... To be honest, I think.the fox will take it hands down.. He is one.of those guys that think chevys will walk all over fords no.matter wat...
I'm not calling you a liar but find it hard to believe that your boy is running a Kenne Bell blower on an LS1. They don't even make kits for LS1 (except the C5 Vettes). The only PD blower kit available for 4th Gen F-Bodies is a custom kit using a Maggie setup. Now without getting technical, I think the the Fox would win because of: better power to weight ratio than the Camaro, bigger motor and the simple fact that centrifugal superchargers are more effecient than PD superchargers.
Lol.. No he dont even have an Camaro... He has a Caprice(box chevy) ... I was just telling him about the setup im gonna do in the vert, and him dreamin, said he was gonna put a supercharger on it and what not and he said he would smoke me... AND THANKS !! I tried to tell him... But he was to bust being a dumb ass Chevy guy... No offense to the Chevys here... But cant go wrong wit alot of ponies in a lite Fox
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Zeke
Member # 9432
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quote: Originally posted by hilltim54: quote: Originally posted by Zeke: quote: Originally posted by hilltim54: quote: Originally posted by v-town coupe: what year camaro and what are the blower setups and psi?
Lol any ls1 camaro.. But the fox with a vortech t trim with a intercooler at 15 psi and the maro kenne bell he said with the same psi... To be honest, I think.the fox will take it hands down.. He is one.of those guys that think chevys will walk all over fords no.matter wat...
I'm not calling you a liar but find it hard to believe that your boy is running a Kenne Bell blower on an LS1. They don't even make kits for LS1 (except the C5 Vettes). The only PD blower kit available for 4th Gen F-Bodies is a custom kit using a Maggie setup. Now without getting technical, I think the the Fox would win because of: better power to weight ratio than the Camaro, bigger motor and the simple fact that centrifugal superchargers are more effecient than PD superchargers.
Lol.. No he dont even have an Camaro... He has a Caprice(box chevy) ... I was just telling him about the setup im gonna do in the vert, and him dreamin, said he was gonna put a supercharger on it and what not and he said he would smoke me... AND THANKS !! I tried to tell him... But he was to bust being a dumb ass Chevy guy... No offense to the Chevys here... But cant go wrong wit alot of ponies in a lite Fox
No offense taken, even being a GM guy and a Mustang enthusiast, your boy is off his rocker if he thinks that setup would kill your setup (even in a Vert). You know what, just for shits n' giggles you should let him think his setup would beat yours then build your car and video tape the race.
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LS1
Member # 9529
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If were talking about displacement, same heads, cam, etc. Then the engine with a bigger displacement wins.
If either engines half-assed and isn't built for boost, you know who wins.
So this isn't a debate about mustang or chevy, it's a debate on a better engine. The 200 Lb difference in cars is negligent at 500+ HP.
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And by negligeible, I mean the fact that maybe one of them has a 6Spd, the other has a 5 Spd, little differences like that will win the race. So lets stop bench racing and track the fucker. [ June 27, 2011, 12:20 AM: Message edited by: LS1 ]
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96mysticman
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quote: Originally posted by Smoked50: quote: Originally posted by 87#184saleen: quote: Originally posted by LS1: quote: Originally posted by 87#184saleen: I think the fox is lighter and more cubes and 410 gears ill rather run 355 or 373 on a blown car
Yeah, and a 383 all aluminum will be more efficient with a KB blower over a vortech. A vortech will run out of breath up top on a 408.
My vortech is pushing 23+ boost I don't have a problem @ all
He was talking about a vortech on a 408. But if you have a 408 pushing 23+ lbs boost then
its in the works
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96mysticman
Member # 8327
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quote: Originally posted by LS1: quote: Originally posted by 87#184saleen: I think the fox is lighter and more cubes and 410 gears ill rather run 355 or 373 on a blown car
Yeah, and a 383 all aluminum will be more efficient with a KB blower over a vortech. A vortech will run out of breath up top on a 408.
you are sadly mistaken my friend! i dont think this can run out of breath if you will lol [ June 27, 2011, 02:54 AM: Message edited by: 96mysticman ]
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LS1
Member # 9529
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quote: Originally posted by 96mysticman: quote: Originally posted by LS1: quote: Originally posted by 87#184saleen: I think the fox is lighter and more cubes and 410 gears ill rather run 355 or 373 on a blown car
Yeah, and a 383 all aluminum will be more efficient with a KB blower over a vortech. A vortech will run out of breath up top on a 408.
you are sadly mistaken my friend! i dont think this can run out of breath if you will lol
Well played!
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