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[QUOTE]Originally posted by phil a: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by 86- 50: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Fostang: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by 306Coupe: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by nitrous_bob: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by 306Coupe: [qb] What I found interesting was #1) $188,000 Annual total of salary and benefits per officer #2) Btw the average police officer in the United states makes $55,000.[/qb][/QUOTE]ok... coming from a municipal worker... and i have worked for 2 cities in michigan and also the westlands water district in central cali. #1... that figure seems way high, typically benefits account for 50-70% of the wage , so making it simple a base pay of 60k would be about a 90k bill for the city if the benefit package was worth 50% it is NEVER double that i can assure you. retirement and med is CONSTANTLY being cut and changes made to the new hires to keep current pay and benefits the same. #2..... that number is WAAAAAY low you need to look at the hierarchy of pay. typically it takes 5 years to reach max pay and sometimes 10 years. usually starting wage it 75% of top scale. and troy MI police make about 65k you cant count overtime and other premium pay such as motorcycle duty (there are higher clothing allowance etc for special jobs) and overtime is overtime. if peeps are needed for OT then there is lack of personnel. PERIOD !!!! i agree cops are a bit overpaid, but my scale is about 50k here in michigan, and the requrements are pretty much a high school diploma. old skool pension is out long ago... current standards are a 401A, that we put in 5% and the city hits it with 10% med in retirement is good for 4% per every year you worked and yes... layoffs are imminent we just lost 7 from our dpw of a total 90 next fiscal year 10 more... then 33 after that hope these b!tche$ arent looking for the snow to plowed from the entire city in 24 hours like we currently promise. ????????? :rolleyes: [/qb][/QUOTE] http://www.opdjobs.com/salaries-and-benefits.asp Starting pay ranges from $71,841 to $90,549 plus benefits. So I don't know have my numbers are way off. If the safety of the people were their top priority then they would of taken the pay cut and saved the jobs of their co-workers. To Fostang I respect a police with your thinking. [/qb][/QUOTE]I voted for the pay cut and we were able to save 20 positions at my department because of it. Well at least till the next budget meeting in dec. I couldn't live with myself if I would have been selfish and voted againts taking a cut when other jobs are taking the cut and some are even losing their employment. We are in a recession together. [/qb][/QUOTE]Thats along the lines of what i was thinking about the situation. And please don't take this the wrong way but if and when another oakland cop goes down in the line of fire i wouldn't want to hear or see the other oakland cops crying about it cause them not helping there so called "brothers" save there jobs was probably part of the reason. [/qb][/QUOTE]Can you possibly be serious here?? You think that a cop getting hurt/killed in Oakland has to do with the numbers of officers patrolling at a specific time? How about the citizens of Oakland (who necessitate such a high level of baby-sitting) take some responsibility for their actions? Here's the way I see it: Everyone comes down on the cops for not taking pay cuts - hell, I agree cutting back a little to save jobs is necessary at times. However, what's it going to take for the people who live in Oakland/similar areas to decide "enough is enough"?? I remember a couple years ago, I was trying like crazy to get hired as as paramedic in Oakland - the pay is good, the calls are "good," and you're always busy (!). Just like fire, just like police - the pay has be good to entice someone to work in that setting, as you risk a whole lot more than working in Burlingame/Corte Madera/etc, right? I hope people get tired of all this and maybe turn the corner toward a more productive and possibly peaceful Oakland. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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