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My POS water pump from O'Reillys (MasterPro) just crapped out on me after a whopping 8000 miles. Screw the warranty, I ordered the $120 Motorcraft from the dealer. Was going to order the $75 from Rock Auto but wanted to get the car running without waiting for shipping.
Anyway....When I picked it up from the dealership, here's what the sticker said on the pump..... [Eek!] Hope their quality control is still there.
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Hey Mark93,

Did you get that waterpump directly from Ford? That isn't even coming up as a registered part number for any Mustang. What vehicle did you buy it for?

This is the part number for a foxbody ( 86-93 )
Part # - M-8501-C50

Let me know if this helps,

Thanks,

- Michael

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Huh? [Eek!]

Got it directly from the Ford dealership parts department. It seemed to fit perfectly on my '93 5.0.

Now you're making me a bit nervous. I just installed it last night but haven't added the coolant just yet as I'm rebuilding my PS pump before buttoning it up and starting it.

Must be a Chinese part number??

[ 2015-04-02, 11:35 AM: Message edited by: Marks93 ]

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Tell me about it ordered a Ford Racing clutch cable from summit and it said made in Taiwan on the box.
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not surprised at all..almost everything is outsourced these days..

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quote:
Originally posted by Marks93:
Huh? [Eek!]

Got it directly from the Ford dealership parts department. It seemed to fit perfectly on my '93 5.0.

Now you're making me a bit nervous. I just installed it last night but haven't added the coolant just yet as I'm rebuilding my PS pump before buttoning it up and starting it.

Must be a Chinese part number??

Hey Marks93,

Did a little bit a research for you regarding this. It looks like Ford sold you a factory replacement water pump for a 94-95. While, it is a Factory original part, it is not made in America. Here's a picture of a 94-95 water pump I have in stock:

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Here's the water pump they should've sold you:

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The above water pump is a Ford Racing part and is made in America.

Anywho, I hope this information helps!

Thanks,

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Thanks Michael....I think!! [Wink]

Being a 5.0 in the '94/95 as well, I don't think there will be an issue? Shouldn't be much difference in the two right?? I would assume they both flow the same.
[Confused]

I'll certainly be pissed if this doesn't work and demand a refund in the cost of the new coolant! (and charge THEM $125/hour in labor)!

Maybe I'll look on the box and see what it says....when I get home. Curiosity's got me here.

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quote:
Originally posted by Marks93:
Thanks Michael....I think!! [Wink]

Being a 5.0 in the '94/95 as well, I don't think there will be an issue? Shouldn't be much difference in the two right?? I would assume they both flow the same.
[Confused]

I'll certainly be pissed if this doesn't work and demand a refund in the cost of the new coolant! (and charge THEM $125/hour in labor)!

Maybe I'll look on the box and see what it says....when I get home. Curiosity's got me here.

Marks93,

Here's what I would do. If my memory serves me right, the 87-93 are a "standard length" water pump. I believe the 94-95 has a shorter shaft.

Given that information:

Part # - M-8501-C50 = STANDARD SHAFT AND BEARING size. ( The one you need )

Part # - M-8501-D50 = SHORTER SHAFT AND BEARING size ( The one you have )

I would definitely triple check everything to make sure you're working with the correct parts before proceeding any further.

let me know if you have any further questions,

Thanks,

- Michael

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I'll do that. Thanks Michael. I hadn't installed the pulley yet and was going to do that tonight. That should tell.

The only other website I could find it on was foureyedpride where someone was mentioning the same thing back in 2011.
http://vb.foureyedpride.com/showthread.php?114793-ford-waterpump

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The fox 5.0 and SN95 5.0 water pumps are completely different pumps and are not interchangeable.
The picture of the pump he purchased is for a 86-93 fox

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Thanks Tim. Although it's not that big of a job, I really don't want to do it again. I'll check everything as soon as I get home, including the box. It does look like the one I took off, well, looks a lot better made and nicer looking.
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quote:
Originally posted by Marks93:
I'll do that. Thanks Michael. I hadn't installed the pulley yet and was going to do that tonight. That should tell.

The only other website I could find it on was foureyedpride where someone was mentioning the same thing back in 2011.
http://vb.foureyedpride.com/showthread.php?114793-ford-waterpump

Marks93,

I could see where it could confuse a few people though.

At least we got this all figured out!

Thanks,

Michael.

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Well, after putting on the WP pulley and PS Pump, everything lines up, but I still haven't added the fluid yet and fired it up. When your granddaughter is over and asks "Grandpa, can you push me on the swing", how can you resist!! [Big Grin]

Thanks for pointing this stuff out to me. I really do appreciate your thought and concerns. As you can see, I was kind of disappointed when I saw the "China" sticker on it. [Roll Eyes]

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quote:
Originally posted by Marks93:
I was kind of disappointed when I saw the "China" sticker on it. [Roll Eyes]

I guess we cant build our own car parts here shit even the Ford Racing Hood Pin Kit i have is made in Taiwan sad

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I just bought a water pump from O'Reillys [Frown]

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Well, hopefully they're not all alike and you got a good one. The O'Reilly's one on my 95 F150 5.0L has been on there for about 3 years now (when I swapped that motor) without incident. You never know....even with the Motorcraft ones. I hope I'm just taking the lesser risk route.
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this is how cafords should be right here.

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Well, just to finalize the outcome here, it works perfectly. Been cruising all around town today.

I even saw LXJames on the freeway...in my mirror!! [Wink] Hey James, it's coming along fine. Love the front end.

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quote:
Originally posted by Marks93:
Well, just to finalize the outcome here, it works perfectly. Been cruising all around town today.

I even saw LXJames on the freeway...in my mirror!! [Wink] Hey James, it's coming along fine. Love the front end.

Mark I saw your car, went cross eyed had a bowl movement and jizzed on my leg! Your car is so fucking beautiful. Never in my life seen a such an eye catching car that looks bone stock haha! Dead serious, just go 5 lug and put saleens on it and you'll be done! Thanks for the complements. Few more parts to buy/order/hunt down, and I'll feel happy

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