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They are a great bang for the buck head. The problem is they have problem's blowing head gasket's when You start throwing even moderate boost at them & 10 pound's equal's plenty of head gasket being blown, yes there will be a fewe xception's to the rule. You are probably going to rationalize that You will be happy with the stock pulley on there but boost is addictive & You will end up pushing the envelope & after a few HG changes You will pony up for some goodt hick deck heads that will hold up. Dont get caught up with HP #'s, I alsway's go with MPH in the 1/8th or1/4 mile to see true power"SEE mY SIG " .I have beat many 600-700 rwhp car with My car which has never put down MORE than 385rwhp on the dyno but has trapped in the high 120's.

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They are a great bang for the buck head. The problem is they have problem's blowing head gasket's when You start throwing even moderate boost at them & 10 pound's equal's plenty of head gasket being blown, yes there will be a fewe xception's to the rule. You are probably going to rationalize that You will be happy with the stock pulley on there but boost is addictive & You will end up pushing the envelope & after a few HG changes You will pony up for some goodt hick deck heads that will hold up.

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Trapped in the high 120s?? With an AOD?? Shit I need to start hang with you.. lol.. But yeah I understand "you are going to want to upgrade bcuz alum are so much better" Blah blah blah.. I this is my first stang so I want to use trail and error and learn for myself.. And I have a drop top, its NOT going to be a dedicated race car.. Daily driven pavement pounder lol.. And nxt year Im going to buy another fox that im gonna use to take to the strip that I gonna have my uncle build me a 347 stroker and the ill put some AFRs on it just for u guys lol

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Yep 128 and passed smog, 150 plus miles roundtrip to sac raceway & 306 cubes "stock rebuild piston's,block, rod's,and crank,and a non lockup converter. Drove to drag strip dropped tire pressure and ran a string of high 10's & shaun from AED tuned My car and was at sac raceway to witness the run's so no BS with dyno,ET,or trap speed. Main reason I say to use different head with boost is deck thickness and never said they HAVE to be aluminum. If You are going to quote Me please don't change My word's as I was just trying to give You some useful info. To be honest I got this info "gt head's not having enough clamping force at moderate boost level's so reliably plan on 400ish rwhp" from John B long ago & know that He was just trying to give useful info for those who are willing to listen, but if You want to test the theory Yourself then more power to Ya. LMK when Your 347 racecar is done and You can school My AOD 306 street car at the drag strip .

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... get caught up with HP #'s, I alsway's go with MPH in the 1/8th or1/4 mile to see true power"SEE mY SIG " .I have beat many 600-700 rwhp car with My car which has never put down MORE than 385rwhp on the dyno but has trapped in the high 120's.

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... get caught up with HP #'s, I alsway's go with MPH in the 1/8th or1/4 mile to see true power"SEE mY SIG " .I have beat many 600-700 rwhp car with My car which has never put down MORE than 385rwhp on the dyno but has trapped in the high 120's.

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Thats only half the equation, You're ignoring the weight of the car and it's effects

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... get caught up with HP #'s, I alsway's go with MPH in the 1/8th or1/4 mile to see true power"SEE mY SIG " .I have beat many 600-700 rwhp car with My car which has never put down MORE than 385rwhp on the dyno but has trapped in the high 120's.

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Thats only half the equation, You're ignoring the weight of the car and it's effects

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OK let Me clarify I have blown the door's off "and out trapped" many car's that were similar weight and aerodynamic's of My car that had 200-300 more rwhp than mine. Not saying that dyno number's are not an indicator of a car's potential but they are often scewed or formatted to indicate higher #'s then are actually there. I alway's see people with 700-800 rwhp car's trapping in the teen's so unless they are in an excursion I am not impressed. I have been around this game long enough to realize that dyno #'s are a biproduct of tuning and a good way to test the effectiveness of aftermarket part's and not much more.

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Lol im in Sac... But I dnt really mind the extra weight.. On jack stands huh?? We will have to see about that..

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Stock mustang parts do not= fast.
That's why most of us get rid of most of them.

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Define fast.... Stock stuff can do quite well if you know what you are doing.

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Ok well when compared to other street cars it's not fast... Most of us here live on the streets not the track... Ou don't catch fast mustangs in the streets with stock parts...

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Lol im in Sac... But I dnt really mind the extra weight.. On jack stands huh?? We will have to see about that..

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Stock mustang parts do not= fast.
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Define fast.... Stock stuff can do quite well if you know what you are doing.

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Ok well when compared to other street cars it's not fast... Most of us here live on the streets not the track... Ou don't catch fast mustangs in the streets with stock parts...

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... get caught up with HP #'s, I alsway's go with MPH in the 1/8th or1/4 mile to see true power"SEE mY SIG " .I have beat many 600-700 rwhp car with My car which has never put down MORE than 385rwhp on the dyno but has trapped in the high 120's.

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Thats only half the equation, You're ignoring the weight of the car and it's effects

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OK let Me clarify I have blown the door's off "and out trapped" many car's that were similar weight and aerodynamic's of My car that had 200-300 more rwhp than mine. Not saying that dyno number's are not an indicator of a car's potential but they are often scewed or formatted to indicate higher #'s then are actually there. I alway's see people with 700-800 rwhp car's trapping in the teen's so unless they are in an excursion I am not impressed. I have been around this game long enough to realize that dyno #'s are a biproduct of tuning and a good way to test the effectiveness of aftermarket part's and not much more.

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you have proof (pics or videos) or links of people actually only trapping in the teens with 700-800rwhp???? or videos of a 385rwhp car outtrapping an 800rwhp car at the same race weight? dyno numbers are certainly not the end-all when it comes to comparing performance (there are variables at the track as well though!!) but it seems youre not giving them enough credit. your post sounds like theres some conspiracy out there with dyno operators just cranking a dial up and giving everybody 800rwhp just for fun. I do agree with you that there are people who "claim the power but cant mile per hour" but those are usually people that pull numbers out of their ass,wont find them at the track, and make their guesses in flywheel/and crank HP and are pretty clueless overall. usually not the kind of people that drive around in 800rwhp cars.

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So wheres the proof?? 800rwhp cars trapping in the teens at the same weight getting smoked by a 385rwhp car??? One 04 cobra trapping 116with nitrous is horrible but Thats an incredibly vague story im
theres much more to the story than that becUse we all know those results are far from typical. Also I never said dynos cant be screwed with, there will be variables as well just like the track.youre assuming someone who spends money on mods will automatically run their car below its potential and if the OP gets gt40 heads, he'll some how be able to drive his car to its potential and beat faster cars

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775 rwhp was a former member here, and I never said His or any other high HP car's that have low trap speed's are "typical" but happen more than You care to believe. Don't need any video's to back My story because both people are still member's here and would speak up if I was lying forsome reason. Yes My 385 rwhp car pounded this car at the strip. No I never said someone who spends money on their car will run below their potential. Also Never said if the OP get's gt40 head's will be able to drive it to it's full potential and beat faster car's because it does'nt make any sense. Where are You coming up with this stuff ?

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So wheres the proof?? 800rwhp cars trapping in the teens at the same weight getting smoked by a 385rwhp car??? One 04 cobra trapping 116with nitrous is horrible but Thats an incredibly vague story im
theres much more to the story than that becUse we all know those results are far from typical. Also I never said dynos cant be screwed with, there will be variables as well just like the track.youre assuming someone who spends money on mods will automatically run their car below its potential and if the OP gets gt40 heads, he'll some how be able to drive his car to its potential and beat faster cars

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775 rwhp was a former member here, and I never said His or any other high HP car's that have low trap speed's are "typical" but happen more than You care to believe. Don't need any video's to back My story because both people are still member's here and would speak up if I was lying forsome reason. Yes My 385 rwhp car pounded this car at the strip. No I never said someone who spends money on their car will run below their potential. Also Never said if the OP get's gt40 head's will be able to drive it to it's full potential and beat faster car's because it does'nt make any sense. Where are You coming up with this stuff ?

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So wheres the proof?? 800rwhp cars trapping in the teens at the same weight getting smoked by a 385rwhp car??? One 04 cobra trapping 116with nitrous is horrible but Thats an incredibly vague story im
theres much more to the story than that becUse we all know those results are far from typical. Also I never said dynos cant be screwed with, there will be variables as well just like the track.youre assuming someone who spends money on mods will automatically run their car below its potential and if the OP gets gt40 heads, he'll some how be able to drive his car to its potential and beat faster cars

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775 rwhp was a former member here, and I never said His or any other high HP car's that have low trap speed's are "typical" but happen more than You care to believe. Don't need any video's to back My story because both people are still member's here and would speak up if I was lying forsome reason. Yes My 385 rwhp car pounded this car at the strip. No I never said someone who spends money on their car will run below their potential. Also Never said if the OP get's gt40 head's will be able to drive it to it's full potential and beat faster car's because it does'nt make any sense. Where are You coming up with this stuff ?

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so what exactly are you getting at???? a 775rwhp @ 3500lbs will beat a 385rwhp car @ 3500lbs every single time if both cars are driven to their potential.

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I am telling You that a 775rwhp consistantly trapped in the teen's in response to You saying put up some proof. My car "385rwhp" had the "775 rwhp" car covered by 1.5 second's & 10 mph. But I am done with this coversation with Ya

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So wheres the proof?? 800rwhp cars trapping in the teens at the same weight getting smoked by a 385rwhp car??? One 04 cobra trapping 116with nitrous is horrible but Thats an incredibly vague story im
theres much more to the story than that becUse we all know those results are far from typical. Also I never said dynos cant be screwed with, there will be variables as well just like the track.youre assuming someone who spends money on mods will automatically run their car below its potential and if the OP gets gt40 heads, he'll some how be able to drive his car to its potential and beat faster cars

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775 rwhp was a former member here, and I never said His or any other high HP car's that have low trap speed's are "typical" but happen more than You care to believe. Don't need any video's to back My story because both people are still member's here and would speak up if I was lying forsome reason. Yes My 385 rwhp car pounded this car at the strip. No I never said someone who spends money on their car will run below their potential. Also Never said if the OP get's gt40 head's will be able to drive it to it's full potential and beat faster car's because it does'nt make any sense. Where are You coming up with this stuff ?

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so what exactly are you getting at???? a 775rwhp @ 3500lbs will beat a 385rwhp car @ 3500lbs every single time if both cars are driven to their potential.

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I am telling You that a 775rwhp consistantly trapped in the teen's in response to You saying put up some proof. My car "385rwhp" had the "775 rwhp" car covered by 1.5 second's & 10 mph. But I am done with this coversation with Ya

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i hear you can buy gt40s with food stamps now days

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So wheres the proof?? 800rwhp cars trapping in the teens at the same weight getting smoked by a 385rwhp car??? One 04 cobra trapping 116with nitrous is horrible but Thats an incredibly vague story im
theres much more to the story than that becUse we all know those results are far from typical. Also I never said dyn os cant be screwed with, there will be variables as well just like the track.youre assuming someone who spends money on mods will automatically run their car below its potential and if the OP gets gt40 heads, he'll some how be able to drive his car to its potential and beat faster cars

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775 rwhp was a former member here, and I never said His or any other high HP car's that have low trap speed's are "typical" but happen more than You care to believe. Don't need any video's to back My story because both people are still member's here and would speak up if I was lying forsome reason. Yes My 385 rwhp car pounded this car at the strip. No I never said someone who spends money on their car will run below their potential. Also Never said if the OP get's gt40 head's will be able to drive it to it's full potential and beat faster car's because it does'nt make any sense. Where are You coming up with this stuff ?

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so what exactly are you getting at???? a 775rwhp @ 3500lbs will beat a 385rwhp car @ 3500lbs every single time if both cars are driven to their potential.

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I am telling You that a 775rwhp consistantly trapped in the teen's in response to You saying put up some proof. My car "385rwhp" had the "775 rwhp" car covered by 1.5 second's & 10 mph. But I am done with this coversation with Ya

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and that owner of the 775RWHP would either be lying or can't drive his car for dogshit....

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So wheres the proof?? 800rwhp cars trapping in the teens at the same weight getting smoked by a 385rwhp car??? One 04 cobra trapping 116with nitrous is horrible but Thats an incredibly vague story im
theres much more to the story than that becUse we all know those results are far from typical. Also I never said dyn os cant be screwed with, there will be variables as well just like the track.youre assuming someone who spends money on mods will automatically run their car below its potential and if the OP gets gt40 heads, he'll some how be able to drive his car to its potential and beat faster cars

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775 rwhp was a former member here, and I never said His or any other high HP car's that have low trap speed's are "typical" but happen more than You care to believe. Don't need any video's to back My story because both people are still member's here and would speak up if I was lying forsome reason. Yes My 385 rwhp car pounded this car at the strip. No I never said someone who spends money on their car will run below their potential. Also Never said if the OP get's gt40 head's will be able to drive it to it's full potential and beat faster car's because it does'nt make any sense. Where are You coming up with this stuff ?

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so what exactly are you getting at???? a 775rwhp @ 3500lbs will beat a 385rwhp car @ 3500lbs every single time if both cars are driven to their potential.

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I am telling You that a 775rwhp consistantly trapped in the teen's in response to You saying put up some proof. My car "385rwhp" had the "775 rwhp" car covered by 1.5 second's & 10 mph. But I am done with this coversation with Ya

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and that owner of the 775RWHP would either be lying or can't drive his car for dogshit....

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I am not making excuses for anyone. Just sayin big dyno #'s don't akway's mean Good #'s at the strip. Pretty simple concept You would think??

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...How about this?

You race smokinLX at the track in his 385RWHP car and you in your 512RWHP big inch 533 cube BBF galaxie.

Winner gets to say, I told ya so!

I mean your theory is that his car with 385RWHP cant possibly be faster than any car, driven well or to its potential, with more than 385rwhp.....from what I read...

Or maybe you are ready to admit that a purpose built 1/4 mile vehicle will usually kill et and trap speed a NON purpose built 1/4 mile vehicle regardless of rwhp?

I mean, we see you are on the dyno...but at the track? That is what SmokinLX is gettin at...


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sure id be down to race as soon as i can get my car done later this year if im lucky AND if he can somehow get his car to 4300lbs. w driver.sure.

youre really twisting this argument and words. Using your same argument, i can just look for someone on the net who has a faster car and if i can get him to agree with me, that means the guy with the faster car is correct, cuz you know, faster car must = always correct

and i never said a purpose built car with the right chassis cant be quicker. If the car cant put the power to the ground then it cant put it to the ground. But if the 800rwhp car had the right set up it would be no contest, at all. But the only variable we were really discussing here is HP.

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...How about this?

You race smokinLX at the track in his 385RWHP car and you in your 512RWHP big inch 533 cube BBF galaxie.

Winner gets to say, I told ya so!

I mean your theory is that his car with 385RWHP cant possibly be faster than any car, driven well or to its potential, with more than 385rwhp.....from what I read...

Or maybe you are ready to admit that a purpose built 1/4 mile vehicle will usually kill et and trap speed a NON purpose built 1/4 mile vehicle regardless of rwhp?

I mean, we see you are on the dyno...but at the track? That is what SmokinLX is gettin at...


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sure id be down to race as soon as i can get my car done later this year if im lucky AND if he can somehow get his car to 4300lbs. w driver.sure.

youre really twisting this argument and words. Using your same argument, i can just look for someone on the net who has a faster car and if i can get him to agree with me, that means the guy with the faster car is correct, cuz you know, faster car must = always correct

and i never said a purpose built car with the right chassis cant be quicker. If the car cant put the power to the ground then it cant put it to the ground. But if the 800rwhp car had the right set up it would be no contest, at all. But the only variable we were really discussing here is HP. [/QB]

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Originally posted by 84SVOrick:
Why Are people treatin gt40s like lits a bad step child, for the money its a good investment for NON track cars who want a lil more speed for less green. Actin like yall too good for gt40s, like u mutha fuckas got farrari money, all i kno is i got FORD money like the rest of yall lmao

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Totally agreed!! I damn sure aint got no ferrari money.. Imma bolt some on my ride and I dnt wanna hear u guys wit aluminum head bad mouthn my Gt40s .. Hahahahaha
Just meet me at the track lol

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