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Topic: 350hp reliably with a stock 302 with 170 miles and $3000
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OneBadHatch
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anyone have any good engine building tips or hints cause it seems to me that there is a cheaper way to do this then the way im looking please help!! Im coming back from deployment soon and want to start ordering parts now thanks alot!!
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1990 GT
TFS Intake and Cam
AFR 165's
Plus all the goodies
Posts: 834 | From: Oceanside, CA | Registered: Mar 2002
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kingmoochr
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supercharger. thats about it
Posts: 880 | Registered: Jul 2005
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Blind
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CAFords OG
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+1, it sounds like you want an S-trim kit.
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89 LX Notchback ex 4cyl, 14psi
02 Harley F150, 15psi
Posts: 8521 | From: Fairfield | Registered: Jul 2003
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two-gun kid2
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Originally posted by Blind:
+1, it sounds like you want an S-trim kit.
naw a ysi would sound better ![[Razz]](tongue.gif)
Posts: 5566 | From: Hayward,Ca | Registered: Jul 2005
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OneBadHatch
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what is ysi??
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1990 GT
TFS Intake and Cam
AFR 165's
Plus all the goodies
Posts: 834 | From: Oceanside, CA | Registered: Mar 2002
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two-gun kid2
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Originally posted by Platinum Pony:
what is ysi??
VORTECH V-7 YSi-TRIM SUPERCHARGER
"Large blower" performance in a smaller package that fits most existing Vortech bracketry
* Fits engines up to 1200 horsepower
* Maximum airflow: 1,600 CFM *
* Maximum boost pressure: 30 PSI *
* Maximum impeller speed: 65,000 RPM
* Adiabatic efficiency: 78% **
* Available with straight or curved discharge in clockwise rotation only
http://www.vortechsuperchargers.com/products/units/ysi-trim.html
Posts: 5566 | From: Hayward,Ca | Registered: Jul 2005
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91Trunkster
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You don't need a YSI, an S-Trim will work fine for your needs.
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Stangs R Us
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Originally posted by Blind:
+1, it sounds like you want an S-trim kit.
+1
Posts: 3100 | From: sacramento | Registered: Aug 2005
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Curt
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Kenne Bell FTW ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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'90 GT
'94 Toyota 4wd "It have problem"
'56 F100 5.8 AFR185's Vortech SC S-trim
Posts: 866 | From: Monterey/Rocklin | Registered: Nov 2005
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OneBadHatch
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will a super charger ruin my engine though...i think my motor was rebuilt but it has 170 thousand miles and i want it to last me a while
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1990 GT
TFS Intake and Cam
AFR 165's
Plus all the goodies
Posts: 834 | From: Oceanside, CA | Registered: Mar 2002
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88DroptopGT
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Originally posted by Platinum Pony:
will a super charger ruin my engine though...i think my motor was rebuilt but it has 170 thousand miles and i want it to last me a while
Oh 170k? I would start looking into a rebuild first before adding any power adder for reliability.
I've seen 5.0s with 200k+ miles but any high-mile engine is rolling dice when adding power to it.
Posts: 3978 | From: 707 | Registered: Mar 2003
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OneBadHatch
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yea which reverts me back to my original question which i havent got much help for
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1990 GT
TFS Intake and Cam
AFR 165's
Plus all the goodies
Posts: 834 | From: Oceanside, CA | Registered: Mar 2002
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88DroptopGT
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Well talk to local engine builders or look at the Ford Sale section, post wanted ads on Craigslist. A short-block rebuild isn't that expensive.
I've seen short blocks for free to $1000 for a fresh DSS 306. It all depends on how much is in your wallet and how much power you want to make.
Compare prices and ask about warranty's (if available) etc.
Building engines should be saved for experienced builders only.
Posts: 3978 | From: 707 | Registered: Mar 2003
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Blind
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do a leak down test and compression check, make sure you have no stored codes and everything is running right, no vacume leaks, etc.
you'll be fine with an S-trim if everything is in order.
no need to buy a new shortblock or rebuild what you have if nothing is wrong with it.
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89 LX Notchback ex 4cyl, 14psi
02 Harley F150, 15psi
Posts: 8521 | From: Fairfield | Registered: Jul 2003
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88DroptopGT
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I'd rather spend some of that 3 grand rebuilding a block than buying an S-trim and putting more stress on an already tired motor.
Just because it has 170k doesn't necessarily mean it's going to last another 10-20k with forced induction. Like I said, it's a rolling the dice.
Besides an A-trim could easily get your 350hp goal for over $1000 less than an S-trim. Shit a 100-150bshot could get you there for $300-$350 bucks if you found a used kit.
170 and 170,000 miles is a big difference LOL.
Posts: 3978 | From: 707 | Registered: Mar 2003
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OneBadHatch
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what else do i need to do if i get a 306 shortblock i mean do i need to upgrade fuel, computer, water pump, radiator anything like that or just use what is on my car now
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1990 GT
TFS Intake and Cam
AFR 165's
Plus all the goodies
Posts: 834 | From: Oceanside, CA | Registered: Mar 2002
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SmokinLX
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Originally posted by Platinum Pony:
what else do i need to do if i get a 306 shortblock i mean do i need to upgrade fuel, computer, water pump, radiator anything like that or just use what is on my car now
At bare minimum You will need to change Your fuel pump so You might as well get a 255 lph($120) bigger fuel injector's at least 36 # ($250-300) matching mass air meter calibrated for the injector's($225-250) and adjustable fuel regulator ($110-125). More than likley You will need a tune and a SCT chip also($450-600) then if You are using stock head's You should change the valve spring's($150 or so).
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Dont claim power if ya cant mile per hour. 10 second AOD
Posts: 4388 | From: East Bay | Registered: Aug 2002
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92stangLX
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Originally posted by 88DroptopGT:
I'd rather spend some of that 3 grand rebuilding a block than buying an S-trim and putting more stress on an already tired motor.
Just because it has 170k doesn't necessarily mean it's going to last another 10-20k with forced induction. Like I said, it's a rolling the dice.
Besides an A-trim could easily get your 350hp goal for over $1000 less than an S-trim. Shit a 100-150bshot could get you there for $300-$350 bucks if you found a used kit.
170 and 170,000 miles is a big difference LOL.
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Rebuild your motor before throwing a blower on it. If you do this think about stroking it out to 347 if you are going to stay NA. If you want to do a blower later down the road build a low compression 331.
You are probably going to be stressing you budget especially if you car is "bone" stock. You will need to save money for exhaust, fuel, intake, and ignition upgrades.
Posts: 5302 | From: San Francisco | Registered: Sep 2003
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OneBadHatch
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no its not stock i have an msd ignition set up with a off road h and 2 chamber flows jba shorties the motor has been rebuilt but i dont know when it was
Posts: 834 | From: Oceanside, CA | Registered: Mar 2002
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SmokinLX
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Originally posted by Platinum Pony:
no its not stock i have an msd ignition set up with a off road h and 2 chamber flows jba shorties the motor has been rebuilt but i dont know when it was
Do a compression check and if all is well slap a blower on there. If Your shortblock check's out OK and You get a dyno tune & good fuel system You should be fine. If not stock or rebuilt 5.0 engines are cheap.
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Dont claim power if ya cant mile per hour. 10 second AOD
Posts: 4388 | From: East Bay | Registered: Aug 2002
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