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Topic: Torque Boxes???
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mustanggt5091
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I am welding up my torque boxes this weekend, hopefully, the battle boxes arent here yet and they are supposed to be! Anyways do I need to weld them up with the tires on the ground or off, does it matter? what is the best way? Does there need to be a load I guess thats what Im asking on the control arms and torque boxes? Any help? ![[Confused]](confused.gif)
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Posts: 2353 | From: Fairfield / Santa Rosa , Ca | Registered: Sep 2001
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TheBrain
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John Force
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That's a good question.
I had to weld one of mine last week when I discovered it was torn pretty bad. We welded it on a lift ans it doesn't seem to have any problems
Good Luck
Brian
[ April 22, 2003, 10:40 PM: Message edited by: TheBrain ]
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66 AC COBRA
Nitrous King
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man jeff, u posted that quick
remember brian about me doin favors, this is one i am doin, weldin, ah, i can taste the 6 pack already ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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FFR AC Cobra
72 Vega - WCHRA Extreme 10.5
Posts: 6280 | From: Winters | Registered: Feb 2002
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Camara90
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Welding mine up with rear tires in the air, doest seem to be having any problems yet. But we have been welding on our backs, you bastards are welding on a rack!! You suck!
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Posts: 2351 | From: 707 | Registered: Jan 2001
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BlackNGold
CaliforniaFords.com
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Its better to weld the torque boxes with the vehicle weight on the tires.....That way when the car is lowered back down after welding, it sits exactly how it was when you welded the torque boxes-(no added stress)...When the car is on jackstands it can be different to how it sits on the tires due to body flex and inconsitant spring rates...
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Posts: 5132 | From: Bay Area, CA | Registered: Dec 2001
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66 AC COBRA
Nitrous King
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good, that is what i was thinkin too black94, guess i am gonna have to clear off two lifts for my friend "cough"bastard"cough" ![[Razz]](tongue.gif)
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FFR AC Cobra
72 Vega - WCHRA Extreme 10.5
Posts: 6280 | From: Winters | Registered: Feb 2002
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rokcrln
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In talking with M&M and Maier racing they say to remove the links and stich weld the boxes in place. Do not try to run long welds and if yours are not torn apart just skip weld them, do not weld solid. This is how I did mine but it has not hit the garage floor yet ![[Roll Eyes]](rolleyes.gif)
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66 AC COBRA
Nitrous King
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thanks for the info, i am welding battle boxes in too so we will see what happens
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72 Vega - WCHRA Extreme 10.5
Posts: 6280 | From: Winters | Registered: Feb 2002
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mustanggt5091
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Mine arent torn apart but I am welding in battle boxes on the lower for now!Uppers someday! Why wouldnt you do a solid bead?
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Posts: 2353 | From: Fairfield / Santa Rosa , Ca | Registered: Sep 2001
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KCmustangboy
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Originally posted by mustanggt5091:
Mine arent torn apart but I am welding in battle boxes on the lower for now!Uppers someday! Why wouldnt you do a solid bead?
Think about it, as it starts to rip (if say it does someday) once the solid bead starts to rip it will continue too until it hits the end of that bead. However if they are just small spots welded if one starts to rip it will tear and then (hopefully) when the stress hits the start of the next bead it will hold it. Think of binder paper, if it's the spiral kind every little hold catchs and makes you pull harder to rip it out: But with normal paper once it rips it comes right now all the way no problem.
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Posts: 1691 | From: San Jose, CA | Registered: Oct 2002
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rokcrln
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KC hit it on the mark! What you want are 3/4" welds with a 3/4" space between them.
Now to start a new question. If you are not torn out why would you put in battle boxes? Every one I have talked to says you don't need them if the box is in good shape. What tears out the boxes is doing donuts not launches at the strip. My car was in good shape and all I did was the stitch welding and I can fab up any thing I need when it comes to bracing and reinforcement but it is just not needed. With battle boxes don't you now have to trim down the bushings on your arms?
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Posts: 448 | From: Winters Ca. | Registered: Mar 2003
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66 AC COBRA
Nitrous King
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good analogy KC(casey), i knew what rock was talkin about but u really made a good one there, i was gonna post somethin like that to explain it but urs worked much better
just read rocks post-he is gonna be launching on slicks with about 600rwhp on nitrous, it might be needed with that kind of power
[ April 23, 2003, 03:27 PM: Message edited by: 66 AC COBRA ]
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90FoX
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Originally posted by rokcrln:
With battle boxes don't you now have to trim down the bushings on your arms?
good question, i would like to know as well...
Posts: 5364 | From: Shooting Skeet | Registered: Oct 2002
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UNLUCKIER
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Where did you get your battle boxes from??? I also understand there are some plates that you can allso bolt in there Where can i get these as well???
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hidnn.o.s.
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Originally posted by rokcrln:
What tears out the boxes is doing donuts not launches at the strip.
I would have to STRONGLY dis-agree with that one
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mustanggt5091
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I got them from UPR for 89 bucks! They are bolt in or weld in!Makes sense about the welds, 66 AC CObra is doing them anyway so as long as he understands its all good. And I am putting them in to prevent anything from happening with slicks and hopefully, shit loads of power from my new 351w setup and N2O!
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Posts: 2353 | From: Fairfield / Santa Rosa , Ca | Registered: Sep 2001
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UNLUCKIER
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Hey is there anyway you can measure those things for me and let me know the specifications on them!! I have access to some 1/8" thick alluminum!!!! I think I will save myself some money and make them myself....
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AND YES THE RAMS FAN
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NvrGoFullRetard
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Originally posted by hidnn.o.s.:
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Originally posted by rokcrln:
What tears out the boxes is doing donuts not launches at the strip.
I would have to STRONGLY dis-agree with that one
i agree with hidnn.o.s.
where did u get ur info from?either way u look at it it is basically thick sheet metal and it does rip under stress.trust me ive seen it.u want to weld them up before they even have problems so u dont have to reshape ur shit back into place
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Posts: 2759 | From: PITTSBURG/FAIRFIELD | Registered: Aug 2002
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mustanggt5091
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Originally posted by 4.6 EATIN GM'S:
where did u get ur info from?either way u look at it it is basically thick sheet metal and it does rip under stress.trust me ive seen it.u want to weld them up before they even have problems so u dont have to reshape ur shit back into place
AMEN!! ![[patriot]](graemlins/patriot.gif)
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Posts: 2353 | From: Fairfield / Santa Rosa , Ca | Registered: Sep 2001
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AcesWild85
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Hey is there anyway you can measure those things for me and let me know the specifications on them!! I have access to some 1/8" thick alluminum!!!! I think I will save myself some money and make them myself....
You do know that you can't weld steel and aluminum right?
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KCmustangboy
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Originally posted by rokcrln:
KC hit it on the mark! What you want are 3/4" welds with a 3/4" space between them.
HOLY SHIT! ![[Eek!]](eek.gif) I don't know shit about welding that just sounded like it made sense to me.
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UNLUCKIER
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I did not meen to put aluminum its actually 4130 acft steel alloy.. Nice catch!!!!!
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Posts: 1023 | From: ODENTON MD | Registered: Sep 2001
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Jdub07
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Originally posted by 66 AC COBRA:
man jeff, u posted that quick
remember brian about me doin favors, this is one i am doin, weldin, ah, i can taste the 6 pack already
GUINNESS!
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mustanggt5091
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No prob on the six pack, what kind? And only after you weld everything in! DOnt want any mistakes now ![[Wink]](wink.gif) !
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