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Primer GR40
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thats fuggin quick. ill sell you and extra two cylinders and get you into the 9's. ineterested?

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hardcore, man!

so this is a drag-only car, or do you drive it on the street without exhaust too?

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Posts: 1797 | From: Grass Valley, CA USA | Registered: Jul 2000  |  :
Chris M.
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quote:
Originally posted by hidnn.o.s.:
quote:
Originally posted by Fast477Mach1:
As for the question of exhaust, it doesnt have any by the sound of it

That was the point [Big Grin]
yeah i was basically saying, 'put exhaust on it and see how it runs'

J's 4AXLR8N, that is exactly the size motor i have and it's been primered for the last two or three years and will stay that way for quite a few more, why do you ask?

rob, it has plates but the last registration sticker was from like 2001.

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CHRIS M- hey bro, i have raced you, fuck ur quick. It was last year around this time I think. You came up to me from King rd onto Tully rd in S.J. The car looked like shit so i thought u were just a slow 289, but then u took me hard and at the light u said it was a 302 and then we raced again and u said it was really a 408. We exchanged numbers in the end. Damn I cant believe that was u. I have white 96 Cobra with a air scoop located in the front right bottom of the car, im the only car with that on it.

[patriot]

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-More cops in the family = more write-offs
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Chris M.
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I don't think that was me. I wouldn't have said it's a 302. This time last year my motor was laying in my garage in pieces.
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Then there must be another guy w/a primered looking old school stang with a 408 running around on the streets. When did u drop ur motor in? Have u ever came out to S.J to race?

[patriot]

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Chris M.
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i put my motor in november 2001, it ran for an hour because coast high performance gave me incorrect dist gear info. I pulled it out, tore it apart rebuilt it and had it running again around feb for 2 hours, the computer took a shit.
Bought new headers, had the computer fixed, and got it running again in may.
Blew up the rear end first night out, took it to a shop to be mini tubbed and got it back in july.
superchager took a shit in september, rebuilt the motor, ported the heads and finally got it running again last month.

I'm sure it wasn't me because I don't race at stoplights, i just started going down to san jose again in the last month or so (i used to go down there in 2000). I also wouldn't have tried to race a 96-98 cobra.

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Well u've answered my question then, my bad, I thought u were that person. Well either way u car sounds like it has alot of balls, good job. Maybe i'll race u for fun when i get my motor built in June or July. I might have some heat for u then. hahaha. either way my bad. U ever gonna come down to San Jose anytime in the next few weeks, might want to see ur car in action.

[patriot]

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i was down there two sat nights ago, last fri night and last sat night.

Soon it'll be tuned and then i'll be able to race it.

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Dont mean to get nossy but what do u think ur running 1/4mile time and HP with that 408? Have a friend thats debating about getting a 408 or 347.

[patriot]

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351 block is WAY stronger than a 302 block. The weight isn't much of a penalty and the wider block makes valve cover removal much much easier. and the dist to fuel rail clearence is better also.

I'm planning on running in the 10s on 91 octane. It's nothing crazy, just a fun car to cruise around with. I chose the 408 mainly because of the huge amounts of bottom end torque that the 4" stroke gives you. It makes the car so much fun to drive.

Posts: 2828 | From: West Bay, CA | Registered: Aug 2002  |  :
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I bet the primer paint job, that horrid dash, and the black smoke make it great fun probably huh? [Razz]

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i don't need my a/f gauge anymore, time to find something to take it's place... how about intake air temp?
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How 'bout a "REAL" o2 sensor? Doesn't your DFI datalog the air intake temp?

[ April 08, 2003, 12:10 AM: Message edited by: Jeff S ]

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get your own thread, bastards

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quote:
Originally posted by Chris M.:
351 block is WAY stronger than a 302 block. The weight isn't much of a penalty

actually I disagree on both points.

a simple latemodel EFI 302 will handle 500 rwhp.

a latemodel hyd-roller 351 will handle 600 rwhp.

the early '69 era castings about another 100 rwhp, the "sportsman" 351 block they sell is the same thing basically.

The 351w weighs about 80#'s more than the 302, and exactly where you don't want the weight.

Don't get me wrong--- I want to swap to a 351 as well, but it's not WAAAY stronger, and it is MUCH heavier.

don't tell me a aluminum headed battery-relocated 351w weighs about the same upfront as a iron-headed stock battery location 302.

Compare to an aluminum headed, battery-relocated 302 [Big Grin] [Big Grin]

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that's like saying "don't buy a blower because it weighs 50lbs, and definitly don't buy an intercooler because that's another 30-40, right where you don't want it"

the BLOCK isn't the big issue, it's the pinter ass 7/16 head bolts that the 302 uses which i hate. you can torque 1/2 studs so much more. it comes in handy when you have a lot of cyl preassure.

in the end 80bls is easily made up by 50+ extra cubic inches and yes the block is stronger. the end.

Blown Mystic, this thread was done a long time ago.

Jeff, i'm not spending $900 for an o2 sensor.
The dfi computer also logs rpm... should i get rid of my tach?

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First of Jim, i just wanna say Congrats.. when i saw the post Silver SC.. i was like, "whoa, thats like my car.." but wait.. 11sec.. it can't be me.. wow! i'm so jealous.. how did u do it?? i have a procharger and i'm running around 295rwhp ... that's pretty much it.. is your car smog legal..? where did u get it tuned, i have a 2000 V6 and i have no place to get it tuned to really upgrade my car... right now, i'm expecting like mid 13s.. but 11s.. that is CRRAZY!?!?! how did u do it.. you gotta tell me u're recipe.. what's ur setup up.. sorry if im all over this thread but a V6 hitting 11s.. now that's heaven.. and its a CA car..

-where did u get ur car tuned? can they tune my car?
-what's your setup?
-and how does your block stand all that power, you must have forged internals..

CONGRATS!!! [Smile]

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Procharged2Kv6 :-)
Thank you so much no tuned computer or chip block is stock with main support.heads are ported Magnum powers blower Eaton M90.type 85MM throttle body 80MM mass air sencer AOD with 2500 stall converter

I have my car info on the www.SCCoA.com web site under members and Top SC's we will be at Sac-racway Friday Nights trying for 11.50's hope to see you there thanks again

Bob Johnson Performance built my motor he can help you (916)481-9263

[ April 08, 2003, 11:06 PM: Message edited by: Jim Demmitt Jr. ]

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so all your mods are basically:

-stock BLOCK
-Eaton Supercharger
-Ported Heads
-85mm TB
-80mm MAF
-2500 Stall Converter..

*i too have an automatic and was wondering what kind of stall i should get.. like a 3,000 stall..

you also said you had no chip/ no tune.. how is that?? i might have misunderstood what you said.. but yah, if you do get tuned..where do you get your car dynotuned at?? thanks Jim for your patience and your help..
is you're motor, stock motor ... ??? 3.8 OHV stock motor?? if so, how much rwhp/ rwTQ are you running??

what is a "bob johnson short block" ??? how much did that run you...

Sorry for all the questions...

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quote:
Originally posted by Chris M.:
that's like saying "don't buy a blower because it weighs 50lbs, and definitly don't buy an intercooler because that's another 30-40, right where you don't want it"

Apples to Oranges bro.

*IF* and only *IF* you are using the block's capacity is this argument even relevant.

Obviously a power adder is worth it's weight, but a 351's extra 80 pounds does shit for you if it's making ~300 rwhp.

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We tune it by fuel pressure.
Never ben Dyno tuned just track time block is a 3.8 supercharged stock stroke and bore.I have an Lintech AOD lockout valve body solid input shaft

We have a lot of money in the motor air intercooler 15% overdrive special grind cam I get 18lbs of boost got a 1.6360ft time do you run at Sac? we can meet up and talk I run there Friday Nights hope to see you there

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quote:
Originally posted by shade-tree:
quote:
Originally posted by Chris M.:
that's like saying "don't buy a blower because it weighs 50lbs, and definitly don't buy an intercooler because that's another 30-40, right where you don't want it"

Apples to Oranges bro.

*IF* and only *IF* you are using the block's capacity is this argument even relevant.

Obviously a power adder is worth it's weight, but a 351's extra 80 pounds does shit for you if it's making ~300 rwhp.

why would anyone do that?
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