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Obviously I am a huge fan of modular swap foxes but in going to disagree simply because the body is not on par with what a $26k dollar car should be! Now Jeremy's car will be a 26k dollar car once his swap is done! I'm sure u can clearly paint that picture! If not then tell me what u think Jeremy's car would be worth with the coyote swap! Yes u can't replicate it but like most say, u dont get in what u pay! It is what it is. I think the price of this car should be $20k. No way does he see $26k. Just off what the market has these cars actually selling for!
I'm a little bit confused. YOU think this car is worth $20k but YOU think your Mach 1 swap fox is worth $25k? I don't know about you but I'd have a Coyote swapped fox(way better motor) than a Mach 1 swapped fox. Not trying to talk shit just don't understand. ![[Confused]](confused.gif)
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Originally posted by *BlownMach1*- TRMYN8R:
Obviously I am a huge fan of modular swap foxes but in going to disagree simply because the body is not on par with what a $26k dollar car should be! Now Jeremy's car will be a 26k dollar car once his swap is done! I'm sure u can clearly paint that picture! If not then tell me what u think Jeremy's car would be worth with the coyote swap! Yes u can't replicate it but like most say, u dont get in what u pay! It is what it is. I think the price of this car should be $20k. No way does he see $26k. Just off what the market has these cars actually selling for!
I'm a little bit confused. YOU think this car is worth $20k but YOU think your Mach 1 swap fox is worth $25k? I don't know about you but I'd have a Coyote swapped fox(way better motor) than a Mach 1 swapped fox. Not trying to talk shit just don't understand.
Actually I said that I wouldn't sell my car less then 20k and with the upgrades I'm doing right now I wouldn't take less then 25k. I just put another 10k in my fox. A and my fox has show quality paint job, new edge interior swap and iRS! So even u can see the difference. Plus my car is on a whole nother level then the car in OP, it's a motor swap that anybody could do theirselves, don't impress me. My car is wired front to back with everything working and no lights on my dash! And my car has been BAR'd, 100% smog legal! Would his pass smog? No. Shall I keep going?
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Originally posted by *BlownMach1*- TRMYN8R:
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Obviously I am a huge fan of modular swap foxes but in going to disagree simply because the body is not on par with what a $26k dollar car should be! Now Jeremy's car will be a 26k dollar car once his swap is done! I'm sure u can clearly paint that picture! If not then tell me what u think Jeremy's car would be worth with the coyote swap! Yes u can't replicate it but like most say, u dont get in what u pay! It is what it is. I think the price of this car should be $20k. No way does he see $26k. Just off what the market has these cars actually selling for!
I'm a little bit confused. YOU think this car is worth $20k but YOU think your Mach 1 swap fox is worth $25k? I don't know about you but I'd have a Coyote swapped fox(way better motor) than a Mach 1 swapped fox. Not trying to talk shit just don't understand.
Actually I said that I wouldn't sell my car less then 20k and with the upgrades I'm doing right now I wouldn't take less then 25k. I just put another 10k in my fox. A and my fox has show quality paint job, new edge interior swap and iRS! So even u can see the difference. Plus my car is on a whole nother level then the car in OP, it's a motor swap that anybody could do theirselves, don't impress me. My car is wired front to back with everything working and no lights on my dash! And my car has been BAR'd, 100% smog legal! Would his pass smog? No. Shall I keep going?
Just asked. I'm shure the coyote swap can be BAR'd too but I know it's not. And smog ain't a problem don't you see I'm the smog man. ![[Cool]](cool.gif)
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Oh and you know that we will have over $100k into Finns build but even if he was ever to sell that car I would say it would be hard to get anything over $30k. Of course it would never be sold. Sucks but this hobby has no return investment, this ain't real estate
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50 cents on the dollar would be lucky on builds on like these. 30% is probably about right. That being said I don't see the value in the coyote swap. And yes I will say it, you can buy a brand new 5.0 with all the creature comforts and a warranty for what this guy is asking in a nearly 30 year old chassis.
Ok with that being said. Most people do the coyote swap for about $12k. All new parts. Add the tranny in and some suspension. 18k and the stock 4 eye body(nothing special or expensive in any way) say $3000.so investment without labor we are looking at roughly 21-23k! But the people on here think this car is worth 26k??? Lol get outta here. Where is the 50% investment? I base cars off a whole package not a silly motor swap that all conversion parts are sold for! Don't take anything more then a set of wrenches and some time to put one of these motors in
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Obviously I am a huge fan of modular swap foxes but in going to disagree simply because the body is not on par with what a $26k dollar car should be! Now Jeremy's car will be a 26k dollar car once his swap is done! I'm sure u can clearly paint that picture! If not then tell me what u think Jeremy's car would be worth with the coyote swap! Yes u can't replicate it but like most say, u dont get in what u pay! It is what it is. I think the price of this car should be $20k. No way does he see $26k. Just off what the market has these cars actually selling for!
I'm a little bit confused. YOU think this car is worth $20k but YOU think your Mach 1 swap fox is worth $25k? I don't know about you but I'd have a Coyote swapped fox(way better motor) than a Mach 1 swapped fox. Not trying to talk shit just don't understand.
Actually I said that I wouldn't sell my car less then 20k and with the upgrades I'm doing right now I wouldn't take less then 25k. I just put another 10k in my fox. A and my fox has show quality paint job, new edge interior swap and iRS! So even u can see the difference. Plus my car is on a whole nother level then the car in OP, it's a motor swap that anybody could do theirselves, don't impress me. My car is wired front to back with everything working and no lights on my dash! And my car has been BAR'd, 100% smog legal! Would his pass smog? No. Shall I keep going?
Just asked. I'm shure the coyote swap can be BAR'd too but I know it's not. And smog ain't a problem don't you see I'm the smog man.
Nate to make that car smog legal would take a TON of work. My car has the full evap ran from tank to motor, tank, all EgR
Parts, and no to u smog don't mean anything, me either. My new build won't pass simply for the longtubes I'm putting on but will still pass pipe if I run pump gas
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Originally posted by *BlownMach1*- TRMYN8R:
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Oh and you know that we will have over $100k into Finns build but even if he was ever to sell that car I would say it would be hard to get anything over $30k. Of course it would never be sold. Sucks but this hobby has no return investment, this ain't real estate
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50 cents on the dollar would be lucky on builds on like these. 30% is probably about right. That being said I don't see the value in the coyote swap. And yes I will say it, you can buy a brand new 5.0 with all the creature comforts and a warranty for what this guy is asking in a nearly 30 year old chassis.
Ok with that being said. Most people do the coyote swap for about $12k. All new parts. Add the tranny in and some suspension. 18k and the stock 4 eye body(nothing special or expensive in any way) say $3000.so investment without labor we are looking at roughly 21-23k! But the people on here think this car is worth 26k??? Lol get outta here. Where is the 50% investment? I base cars off a whole package not a silly motor swap that all conversion parts are sold for! Don't take anything more then a set of wrenches and some time to put one of these motors in
I think he's got closer to $40K into this one, he has a top notch suspension and a few items that make it stand out from the crowd. The car also has national recognition which does count. I'd say high teens is a fair price.
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Well to be fair, I love these swaps and want to one on my next project. I honestly think that it could be done on a budget using used parts. I seen a complete motor on SVTP the other day for $3800, a couple conversion parts, a K-member, exhaust and control packs and it's done. Grab a used T-56 out of a cobra and I think this swap could be done for about $10k into a rolling fox chassis. Using manual steering and manual brakes if course. I would think a used hydro boost setup wouldn't be to expensive either. Would be a fun project. Maybe I will do it and ask $26k and see what cafords says then.
Although I am glad that cafords is coming around to the idea of foxbodys being worth more money. At one time people were saying it's stupid to put over $10k in a fox cause they would never sell for more then $10k! Times have changed
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Here's what it REALLY costs to do it the proper way with new running gear. ..this doesnt include the clutch and transmission to hold 800rw either
And then the blower setup
Suspension
paint
Custom wheels.
you can it cheap..or you can do it right.
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Ya Jason that setup is for boost and has a lot of upgraded parts that are necessary for high HP. The car the OP posted does not have those parts. There are many ways to tackle this. Jeremy is doing it right!!! I'm sure he will be throwing on a big blower to. Should make great power. Some twins would be sick. Make over 1000rw
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I'm curious, how many people on this site have completed, or are building a Coyote swapped Fox, SN95, or anything for that matter?
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I'm building my '93 Cobra right now with a Coyote swap and my brother and I did a Terminator conversion on his '93 Cobra.
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I'm curious, how many people on this site have completed, or are building a Coyote swapped Fox, SN95, or anything for that matter?
I've built, modded, rebuilt..plenty of vehicles. .my own personal when through a full redo (suspension, fuel, drivetrain) 2 years ago...decided against a swap and dumped the money into an HP setup instead of swap parts...
Never have done a swap yet but definitely looking forward to doing one someday soon..thinking of going 4v in my car
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Originally posted by *BlownMach1*- TRMYN8R:
Ya Jason that setup is for boost and has a lot of upgraded parts that are necessary for high HP. The car the OP posted does not have those parts. There are many ways to tackle this. Jeremy is doing it right!!! I'm sure he will be throwing on a big blower to. Should make great power. Some twins would be sick. Make over 1000rw
Actually he's shying away from the 1xxx digits anymore. .he wants more of a driver like the 700 to 750rw area at most...he's thinking of doing one of the new prochargers with that step boost system so he can a low boost and higher boost tune on the fly...
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Originally posted by CornOil_&_Boost:
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Originally posted by Notch1320:
I'm curious, how many people on this site have completed, or are building a Coyote swapped Fox, SN95, or anything for that matter?
I've built, modded, rebuilt..plenty of vehicles. .my own personal when through a full redo (suspension, fuel, drivetrain) 2 years ago...decided against a swap and dumped the money into an HP setup instead of swap parts...
Never have done a swap yet but definitely looking forward to doing one someday soon..thinking of going 4v in my car
![[Eek!]](eek.gif) Yes do the 4v mod!
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I'm curious, how many people on this site have completed, or are building a Coyote swapped Fox, SN95, or anything for that matter?
I've built, modded, rebuilt..plenty of vehicles. .my own personal when through a full redo (suspension, fuel, drivetrain) 2 years ago...decided against a swap and dumped the money into an HP setup instead of swap parts...
Never have done a swap yet but definitely looking forward to doing one someday soon..thinking of going 4v in my car
Yes do the 4v mod!
Really considering it...a lot more streetable especially in the higher HP area...heads are better...handles boost a lot better...newer technology etc...
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4v FTW!! Do it Jason, I made the switch like 5 years ago and will never build another pushrod motor for myself. Yes modulars are a little more pricey but it's about the technology and the streetable power aspect. My motor is at don's shop right now. My pockets are getting drained fast!!!
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I'm curious, how many people on this site have completed, or are building a Coyote swapped Fox, SN95, or anything for that matter?
I know Kurgan is on the site from time to time.
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Screw it. My car is for sale, $26k ready for coyote swap!
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I've said it before, & I will say it again... A Fox is worth whatever someone will pay for it! I'm getting tired of hearing people argue about what a fox is or isn't worth. Every "overprced fox" thread I've seen over the last few weeks all had badass, well done foxes that were all worth a nice chunk IMO... Guaranteed none of the cars in question could be properly built for under $30k, period!!!
This is why I will NOT sell my fox anytime soon, because even though my car is clean & has a bunch of good parts on it, to the average Cafords'er, My car is worth $6k... I wouldn't sell it for less than $12k & my car ain't even "nice" like these ones, but that is what my car is worth TO ME!
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Not to mention y'all, but that full Maximum Motorsports suspension setup ain't cheap either, on top of all the other custom parts involved!
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So. Since these cars are worth $20k-&26k, I wonder what Streakmatts fox would be worth?
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Power to weight is always the best way to judge the FUN factor of any vehicle...do the math!
2900 lb Foxbody + 450 Plus HP Coyote = ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
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I'm curious, how many people on this site have completed, or are building a Coyote swapped Fox, SN95, or anything for that matter?
Not many I guess!!
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I've said it before, & I will say it again... A Fox is worth whatever someone will pay for it! I'm getting tired of hearing people argue about what a fox is or isn't worth. Every "overprced fox" thread I've seen over the last few weeks all had badass, well done foxes that were all worth a nice chunk IMO... Guaranteed none of the cars in question could be properly built for under $30k, period!!!
This is why I will NOT sell my fox anytime soon, because even though my car is clean & has a bunch of good parts on it, to the average Cafords'er, My car is worth $6k... I wouldn't sell it for less than $12k & my car ain't even "nice" like these ones, but that is what my car is worth TO ME!
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