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Greasy
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Originally posted by warhorse58gt:
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Originally posted by Greasy:
Thanks Cobraracer for trying to take away our 2nd Amendment ![[BS flag]](graemlins/bs_flag.gif) I hope you never find yourself in a situation where you need a gun...
No I hope he does.. And doesn't have one to help him out.. ![[patriot]](graemlins/patriot.gif) I ain't going to lie. I wouldn't be to mad to see someone break into his house tie him up, and pistol whip the shit out of him.. Take bets the next day he would run right out and buy the biggest one he could get.
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Originally posted by Revved up:
Didnt some guy in Japan kill a bunch of people with a sword or knife or something? Like 22 people attacked.......
China... the same day as the shooting.. 22 kids 1 lady. Was at least the 3rd time since 2010. 1st time it was like 30 kids.. But this retard don't care about that shit.. Just like he don't care about SWITZERLAND! You know the country with a gun in every house hold.
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Originally posted by warhorse58gt:
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Originally posted by Revved up:
Didnt some guy in Japan kill a bunch of people with a sword or knife or something? Like 22 people attacked.......
China... the same day as the shooting.. 22 kids 1 lady. Was at least the 3rd time since 2010. 1st time it was like 30 kids.. But this retard don't care about that shit.. Just like he don't care about SWITZERLAND! You know the country with a gun in every house hold.
All i know is im from Kansas, there is very few crime there... Every mofo has not one but a lot of guns...... Shit even most women i know have their conceal and carry or at least keep a gun in their car.
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Originally posted by warhorse58gt:
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Originally posted by Revved up:
Didnt some guy in Japan kill a bunch of people with a sword or knife or something? Like 22 people attacked.......
China... the same day as the shooting.. 22 kids 1 lady. Was at least the 3rd time since 2010. 1st time it was like 30 kids.. But this retard don't care about that shit.. Just like he don't care about SWITZERLAND! You know the country with a gun in every house hold.
I was going to bring up Switzerland. That's exactly why op's logic doesn't work. Besides for Switzerland having the most guns per capita than any other country it also has some of the lowest gun crime rates. I've also heard it's extremely hard to legally get guns in Mexico.
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Originally posted by cobraracer46:
In Japan, you cannot buy a handgun, much less an assault rifle. In fact, even off-duty police officers are banned from carrying guns.
You can buy a shotgun or an air rifle, but it is not easy:
First, you have to take a class and a written exam.
Then there's a skill test at a shooting range
Next is a drug test
Then a mental evaluation.
Assuming you pass all those tests, you file with the police, who then run a background check.
No wonder Japan has one of the lowest gun ownership rates in the world.
But does it work?
In 2008, the U.S. had 12,000 gun-related murders. Japan had 11. More than double that number were killed in the massacre in Newtown, Connecticut.
I bet it has something to do with them not having a military too?
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12,000 murders vs. 11 is hard to argue against. No matter how anybody tries to spin it.
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Excellent post cobraracer, move to Japan. Good day.
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Do EVERYONE a favor,DOUCHBAG RACER,HYPOCRITE. Go fuck yourself and your Left leaning, Freddie Mercury, Revenge of The Nerds looking ass self. You have no credibility, not that you had any to begin with. Merry X-Mas Everybody!
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Wildfire532FB
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http://news.yahoo.com/know-stop-school-shootings-003203357.html
In the wake of a monstrous crime like a madman's mass murder of defenseless women and children at the Newtown, Conn., elementary school, the nation's attention is riveted on what could have been done to prevent such a massacre.
Luckily, some years ago, two famed economists, William Landes at the University of Chicago and John Lott at Yale, conducted a massive study of multiple victim public shootings in the United States between 1977 and 1995 to see how various legal changes affected their frequency and death toll.
Landes and Lott examined many of the very policies being proposed right now in response to the Connecticut massacre: waiting periods and background checks for guns, the death penalty and increased penalties for committing a crime with a gun.
None of these policies had any effect on the frequency of, or carnage from, multiple-victim shootings. (I note that they did not look at reforming our lax mental health laws, presumably because the ACLU is working to keep dangerous nuts on the street in all 50 states.)
Only one public policy has ever been shown to reduce the death rate from such crimes: concealed-carry laws.
The effect of concealed-carry laws in deterring mass public shootings was even greater than the impact of such laws on the murder rate generally.
Someone planning to commit a single murder in a concealed-carry state only has to weigh the odds of one person being armed. But a criminal planning to commit murder in a public place has to worry that anyone in the entire area might have a gun.
You will notice that most multiple-victim shootings occur in "gun-free zones" -- even within states that have concealed-carry laws: public schools, churches, Sikh temples, post offices, the movie theater where James Holmes committed mass murder, and the Portland, Ore., mall where a nut starting gunning down shoppers a few weeks ago.
Guns were banned in all these places. Mass killers may be crazy, but they're not stupid.
If the deterrent effect of concealed-carry laws seems surprising to you, that's because the media hide stories of armed citizens stopping mass shooters. At the Portland shooting, for example, no explanation was given for the amazing fact that the assailant managed to kill only two people in the mall during the busy Christmas season.
It turns out, concealed-carry-holder Nick Meli hadn't noticed that the mall was a gun-free zone. He pointed his (otherwise legal) gun at the shooter as he paused to reload, and the next shot was the attempted mass murderer killing himself. (Meli aimed, but didn't shoot, because there were bystanders behind the shooter.)
In a nonsense "study" going around the Internet right now, Mother Jones magazine claims to have produced its own study of all public shootings in the last 30 years and concludes: "In not a single case was the killing stopped by a civilian using a gun."
This will come as a shock to people who know something about the subject.
The magazine reaches its conclusion by simply excluding all cases where an armed civilian stopped the shooter: They looked only at public shootings where four or more people were killed, i.e., the ones where the shooter wasn't stopped.
If we care about reducing the number of people killed in mass shootings, shouldn't we pay particular attention to the cases where the aspiring mass murderer was prevented from getting off more than a couple rounds?
It would be like testing the effectiveness of weed killers, but refusing to consider any cases where the weeds died.
In addition to the Portland mall case, here are a few more examples excluded by the Mother Jones methodology:
-- Mayan Palace Theater, San Antonio, Texas, this week: Jesus Manuel Garcia shoots at a movie theater, a police car and bystanders from the nearby China Garden restaurant; as he enters the movie theater, guns blazing, an armed off-duty cop shoots Garcia four times, stopping the attack. Total dead: Zero.
-- Winnemucca, Nev., 2008: Ernesto Villagomez opens fire in a crowded restaurant; concealed carry permit-holder shoots him dead. Total dead: Two. (I'm excluding the shooters' deaths in these examples.)
-- Appalachian School of Law, 2002: Crazed immigrant shoots the dean and a professor, then begins shooting students; as he goes for more ammunition, two armed students point their guns at him, allowing a third to tackle him. Total dead: Three.
-- Santee, Calif., 2001: Student begins shooting his classmates -- as well as the "trained campus supervisor"; an off-duty cop who happened to be bringing his daughter to school that day points his gun at the shooter, holding him until more police arrive. Total dead: Two.
-- Pearl High School, Mississippi, 1997: After shooting several people at his high school, student heads for the junior high school; assistant principal Joel Myrick retrieves a .45 pistol from his car and points it at the gunman's head, ending the murder spree. Total dead: Two.
-- Edinboro, Pa., 1998: A student shoots up a junior high school dance being held at a restaurant; restaurant owner pulls out his shotgun and stops the gunman. Total dead: One.
By contrast, the shootings in gun-free zones invariably result in far higher casualty figures -- Sikh temple, Oak Creek, Wis. (six dead); Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Va. (32 dead); Columbine High School, Columbine, Colo. (12 dead); Amish school, Lancaster County, Pa. (five little girls killed); public school, Craighead County, Ark. (five killed, including four little girls).
All these took place in gun-free zones, resulting in lots of people getting killed -- and thereby warranting inclusion in the Mother Jones study.
If what we care about is saving the lives of innocent human beings by reducing the number of mass public shootings and the deaths they cause, only one policy has ever been shown to work: concealed-carry laws. On the other hand, if what we care about is self-indulgent grandstanding, and to hell with dozens of innocent children being murdered in cold blood, try the other policies.
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Cobradouche96 Assault rifles are fiction. Its a term created by the media and politicians to scare people.
Your opinion on Guns will change if your home was to be invaded and harm has been done to your family.
unless your local PD has a response time of 5 sec or less(door step to door step) and you are guaranteed access to your phone, you can then open that cum trough known as your mouth and talk about how "we dont need guns".
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Originally posted by MauriSSio:
12,000 murders vs. 11 is hard to argue against. No matter how anybody tries to spin it.
Yes but not having access to guns doesnt mean people couldnt have committed murders any other way?
Also we may have had 12k here in the us, but how many of them were crime on crime murders? (dirtbags killing other dirtbags over drugs, etc.) when you want to bring numbers into play its really apples to oranges, due to the fact there are things in our society people seem fit to kill one another over vs what they may believe in Japan.
There are many other factors to consider before just assuming that we are talking about like for like.
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Wildfire532FB
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http://kontradictions.wordpress.com/2012/08/09/why-not-renew-the-assault-weapons-ban-well-ill-tell-you/
The most important question, of course, is: “What exactly is an assault weapon?”
The term was specifically designed to conjure images of military machine guns, but for those totally unfamiliar with firearms, it should be made clear that automatic weapons (those that fire more than one bullet with each pull of the trigger) are already illegal for the average citizen to own. They are heavily regulated by the federal government, registered with the ATF and very difficult to obtain licenses for. Almost no crime is ever committed with them.
So in 1994, legislators were forced to ask themselves, “What exactly will this ban do away with?” The category of “assault weapon” didn’t actually exist, and this was an opportunity for gun control advocates to create it, to say exactly what they wanted off the streets.
As it turns out, they were mostly opposed to things they saw in movies. Which is to say that most of the features that now defined “assault weapons” had to do with form and not function, totally sidestepping the issue of violent crime altogether.
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Originally posted by v-town coupe:
Cobradouche96 Assault rifles are fiction. Its a term created by the media and politicians to scare people.
Your opinion on Guns will change if your home was to be invaded and harm has been done to your family.
unless your local PD has a response time of 5 sec or less(door step to door step) and you are guaranteed access to your phone, you can then open that cum trough known as your mouth and talk about how "we dont need guns".
Maybe you shouldn't make him aware of that and let natural selection work it's magic.
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Cobraracer......please explain what your doing with that "assault" shotgun????
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Originally posted by turbo50:
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Originally posted by cobraracer46:
who knew that CAFords was packed with so many gun nuts? ![[Confused]](confused.gif)
Its not that I am a gun nut its just that your posts always have a negative spin on them. It really sux.........
This thread never had a chance of going in a positive direction. Lol
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Originally posted by migs66/92:
Cobraracer......please explain what your doing with that "assault" shotgun????
or better yet explain how Timothy McVeigh used "Assault Soil/fertilizer" in the Oklahoma city bombing.
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Serious question Cobraracer46, what would be your plan? Saying "gun control" is what we need isn't a plan, it's an idea. Plans include details. If banning assault weapons is part of your idea, what's your plan for getting rid of them. There are an estimated 3 million AR-15s in circulation. That doesn't include anything else that would fall into the assault weapon category like AK47, AR-10, AR-18, PTR-91, etc. What's your plan for getting around the Heller decision that specifically protects firearms "in common use." What's your plan for getting around the 4th Amendment?
I assume you're in favor of repealing the 2nd Amendment. While we have the redacting pen out, what other amendments would you like to get rid of? How about the 3rd? Shit, most people couldn't even tell you what the 3rd Amendment is, so obviously we don't need it. I mean honestly, when was the last time we needed to make sure the government didn't house troops in our homes? How about the 9th Amendment? It's so vague, let's just get rid of it. I vote we lose the 13th Amendment too. I mean, come on, we haven't had slavery in this country in over 150 years, surely we know by now that slavery is bad.
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Originally posted by MauriSSio:
12,000 murders vs. 11 is hard to argue against. No matter how anybody tries to spin it.
It's hard, but not impossible.
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Originally posted by v-town coupe:
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Originally posted by migs66/92:
Cobraracer......please explain what your doing with that "assault" shotgun????
or better yet explain how Timothy McVeigh used "Assault Soil/fertilizer" in the Oklahoma city bombing.
Good one. I'm sure after another stupid thread made we're not gonna hear from the "pink dingaling slinging" guy again. That is until he makes another thread 98% of the people on here dont care about. after he's proved wrong we hear crickets
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Jans not leaving us, he's an anomaly. Earth killing muscle car driver, nut sack tight spandex bike rider, shotgun photo op anti gun lobbyer, Obama loving white/Hispanic/pollock looking dude that just loves to get shit talked to. Why you would want to take that much punishment makes me think he's probably into pegging.
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^^^OR Fisting. Merry X-Mas Eveybody
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