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Here goes mine.

Any pistol or rifle with a detachable magazine will be limited to 6 rounds. All existing higher capacity magazines will be deemed illegal. Turn them in or destroy them. Heavy fines for anyone using or in possession of one.

Pretty sure they realize that they cannot ban semi auto's due to the fact they would make criminals out of 100 million Americans. On the other hand the magazine capacity rule would be easier to implement.

What do you guys think?

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Don't matter I'm never turning my arms into anyone for anything.

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I'm going to say 10rd mags will be the new standard for every state, maybe bullet buttons too [Eek!] They can't/won't ban a particular or weapons period. I think they'll just start cracking down on capacities if anything.

So just start carrying a bunch of mags, makes no difference if I'm using a 10rd or 15rd mag I'll have more.

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quote:
Originally posted by turbo50:
Don't matter I'm never turning my arms into anyone for anything.

Definitely agree! They also know that. But what about magazines?

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The legal environment is vastly different today than it was in 1994. Also the fact that communicating and mobilizing the masses to take action is much easier now thanks to the Internet. I believe any legislation proposed has an uphill battle to pass Constitutional muster. The 4th and 14th Amendments still apply, and the government cannot arbitrarily make citizens criminals overnight. Not to mention, the Republicans still control Congress.

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'If' we get cut down on smaller capacities they should grandfather in the high cap mags that the gun owner already has.

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If Obama was a good President he would realize that its not the gun that's the problem its the mental health of some people but he's not and he wants less resistence from the slaves so he'll take our guns away until all we have to protect ourselves from the government is rocks.

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quote:
Originally posted by wilit:
The legal environment is vastly different today than it was in 1994. Also the fact that communicating and mobilizing the masses to take action is much easier now thanks to the Internet. I believe any legislation proposed has an uphill battle to pass Constitutional muster. The 4th and 14th Amendments still apply, and the government cannot arbitrarily make citizens criminals overnight. Not to mention, the Republicans still control Congress.

Yeah well, the state of California did that (made citizens criminals) with the pre ban "assault" weapons law that anyone with one had to register them. I recall that around 12K registered them and over 100K citizens that didn't are now criminals.

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quote:
Originally posted by Wildfire532FB:
If Obama was a good President he would realize that its not the gun that's the problem its the mental health of some people but he's not and he wants less resistence from the slaves so he'll take our guns away until all we have to protect ourselves from the government is rocks.

You know what they say about if pigs had wings, right? [Big Grin]

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Implement the magazine rule, and put an age limit on who can own one and use one. Anyone under the age limit caught using one, the responsibility for that persons actions falls on the owner. Negligence.

16 to drive
18 to smoke cigarettes
21 to drink alcohol
25+ to own a gun.

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quote:
Originally posted by kingroy:
Implement the magazine rule, and put an age limit on who can own one and use one. Anyone under the age limit caught using one, the responsibility for that persons actions falls on the owner. Negligence.

16 to drive
18 to smoke cigarettes
21 to drink alcohol
25+ to own a gun.

I think guns should come before alcohol.

[ December 17, 2012, 11:36 AM: Message edited by: Greasy ]

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quote:
Originally posted by kingroy:
Implement the magazine rule, and put an age limit on who can own one and use one. Anyone under the age limit caught using one, the responsibility for that persons actions falls on the owner. Negligence.

16 to drive
18 to smoke cigarettes
21 to drink alcohol
25+ to own a gun.

16 to drive
We all drove before 16, I am almost certain

18 to smoke cigarettes
I know I smoked cigarettes before 18, not proud of it. But still did it.

21 to drink alcohol- My biggest partying days where before I'm 21. Now that I am, I haven't touched it.

25+ to own a gun.

But 18 to go into the military, which you can use bigger, more lethal guns. And go kill people?

Nahh

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quote:
Originally posted by 92MaroonGT:
quote:
Originally posted by kingroy:
Implement the magazine rule, and put an age limit on who can own one and use one. Anyone under the age limit caught using one, the responsibility for that persons actions falls on the owner. Negligence.

16 to drive
18 to smoke cigarettes
21 to drink alcohol
25+ to own a gun.

16 to drive
We all drove before 16, I am almost certain

18 to smoke cigarettes
I know I smoked cigarettes before 18, not proud of it. But still did it.

21 to drink alcohol- My biggest partying days where before I'm 21. Now that I am, I haven't touched it.

25+ to own a gun.

But 18 to go into the military, which you can use bigger, more lethal guns. And go kill people?

Nahh

I was thinking along the same lines. Plus, there are plenty of wacko's over 25.

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Guns aren't the problem. The mentally unstable are. If we scanned newborns at birth for mentally instability and disposed of them then or locked them in a basement then we'd be much better off lol... Buy your guns and magazines now fellas till then

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Changing the law to make people be older to own guns won't stop anything.

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Tell me again what criminal follows the laws?

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quote:
Originally posted by Wildfire532FB:
If Obama was a good President he would realize that its not the gun that's the problem its the mental health of some people but he's not and he wants less resistence from the slaves so he'll take our guns away until all we have to protect ourselves from the government is rocks.

Guns and our society's handling of mental health issues are both problems. They both need to be addressed in an intelligent manner. The old saying "guns don't kill people, people kill people" is worn out and doesn't hold much water in light of the numerous mass killings we have had to endure. All of which involved sick people and guns.
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I think rational people can agree that no amount of restriction on guns will solve this problem. The genie is already out of the bottle. The law makers in DC don't happen to be the most rational people around though. Someone should remind them that murder is against the law and we know how well that has worked out.

I only hope they think more about security then about gun control. Maybe having more trained/armed people in schools, malls, and any place where a large group of people congregate. I don't know, maybe there is no solution.

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quote:
Originally posted by SF Coupe:
quote:
Originally posted by Wildfire532FB:
If Obama was a good President he would realize that its not the gun that's the problem its the mental health of some people but he's not and he wants less resistence from the slaves so he'll take our guns away until all we have to protect ourselves from the government is rocks.

Guns and our society's handling of mental health issues are both problems. They both need to be addressed in an intelligent manner. The old saying "guns don't kill people, people kill people" is worn out and doesn't hold much water in light of the numerous mass killings we have had to endure. All of which involved sick people and guns.
Sick people will find any means available to achieve there murderous goal. Sure it's easy to say if guns were not readily available we would eliminate that possibility for them. But they would just find another means to do their deed. Poisoning the water/food, explosives (pretty easy to make), machete, fire. I mean there is no end to the possibilities.

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Can the people in favor of more gun bans defend this kind of behavior?
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quote:
Originally posted by John91coupe:
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Originally posted by SF Coupe:
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Originally posted by Wildfire532FB:
If Obama was a good President he would realize that its not the gun that's the problem its the mental health of some people but he's not and he wants less resistence from the slaves so he'll take our guns away until all we have to protect ourselves from the government is rocks.

Guns and our society's handling of mental health issues are both problems. They both need to be addressed in an intelligent manner. The old saying "guns don't kill people, people kill people" is worn out and doesn't hold much water in light of the numerous mass killings we have had to endure. All of which involved sick people and guns.
Sick people will find any means available to achieve there murderous goal. Sure it's easy to say if guns were not readily available we would eliminate that possibility for them. But they would just find another means to do their deed. Poisoning the water/food, explosives (pretty easy to make), machete, fire. I mean there is no end to the possibilities.
True, but at this point guns are the easiest solution for these wack jobs. I don't agree with the argument that we shouldn't take action on guns just because a perp can find another means to his end. I don't know what the laws should be but ignoring the fact that guns are one part of a complex problem is not right.
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quote:
Originally posted by SF Coupe:
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Originally posted by John91coupe:
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Originally posted by SF Coupe:
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Originally posted by Wildfire532FB:
If Obama was a good President he would realize that its not the gun that's the problem its the mental health of some people but he's not and he wants less resistence from the slaves so he'll take our guns away until all we have to protect ourselves from the government is rocks.

Guns and our society's handling of mental health issues are both problems. They both need to be addressed in an intelligent manner. The old saying "guns don't kill people, people kill people" is worn out and doesn't hold much water in light of the numerous mass killings we have had to endure. All of which involved sick people and guns.
Sick people will find any means available to achieve there murderous goal. Sure it's easy to say if guns were not readily available we would eliminate that possibility for them. But they would just find another means to do their deed. Poisoning the water/food, explosives (pretty easy to make), machete, fire. I mean there is no end to the possibilities.
True, but at this point guns are the easiest solution for these wack jobs. I don't agree with the argument that we shouldn't take action on guns just because a perp can find another means to his end. I don't know what the laws should be but ignoring the fact that guns are one part of a complex problem is not right.
It is a complex problem but human nature is to take the path of least resistence. Make a law, ban this or that. Seems we always come up with the same solutions and they don't work, which is why there a millions of laws on the books and not much has been solved. Drugs are illegal - drugs everywhere. Rape illegal -.......

To me, a big part of the problem is how America has "progressed". I'm older then probably everyone here so I can give you a little history. When I watched tv as a kid, no one got killed. Lone Ranger shot the gun out of the bad guys hand. Superman was a hero. Even in "adult" movies where ther was a fair amount of gun play. You never saw blood gushing out of wounds. Worst you saw was a little dark stain where a guy got shot.

Compare that to today's movies. If you don't see someones head exploding with all the graphic detail, people are bored. Like, what's the big deal.

Unfortunately, like with guns, the genie is out of the bottle on that one too. This society has become numb to movie violence and carnage. Young kids are watching this crap at a time when they have difficulty distinguising between fake and reality.

You know, how do we change that now?

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I would bet the 10 round Mag thing will be implimented in all 50 states for hand guns. Probably see a Mag limit for rifles as well. No "grandfather" deal for higher capacity mags, just steep finesand or jail time for those caught with them.

I think we need more CCW holders and/or open carry states. Along with that, the CCW classes should be more in depth for situations like the Oregon Mall shooting and the CT elementary school.

I'm sure the push will be towards anything considered an "assult rifle" though. Who knows. I guess we will just have to stock up on weapons and ammo and se what comes down the pipe.

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One thing for sure. BIG sales for AR's and price increases. These legislators sell more guns then all the gun shows combined.

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