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FivePTSlow
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So, I've wanted to get a set of upper control arms for my Mustang for awhile now, but I thought the nice adjustables were a little too expensive. I told my buddy who has a custom fab shop here in Sacramento and he started looking into getting parts for the arms.
Now it's a couple months later and this is what we've got. Single adjustable upper control arms for Fox Mustangs. They give you the ability to adjust 1" total. 1/2" longer or shorter than the stock control arm length.
-Made In Sacramento, CA USA
-The set pictured is made from 250 dom and 250 plate steel with laser cut ends. MIG Welded. We are going to get his TIG welder up soon for new sets. Also will be looking into powder coating options.
-Price will be $160 per set
What do you guys think?
Opinions Shared So Far:
-Longer Heim Joint Thread Capacity for strength
-Double Jamb Nuts so they dont loosen
-Hassle to adjust due to single adjustable
Also, if you need any sort of Custom Fab/Welding etc they do it all. Sub Frame Connectors, Sheet Metal Work, Mini Tubs
Sacramento Kounty Kustoms
4536 auburn blvd ste f, Sacramento, CA.
(916) 993-8553
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[ November 02, 2012, 05:06 PM: Message edited by: FivePTSlow ]
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LXjames
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They look good but I say give them to someone who is at 7th every time there's a function and see how they hold up. I wouldn't buy them for price and looks. Give them to someone who has the ability to brake them and then you can put a price on them.
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FivePTSlow
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Originally posted by LXjames:
They look good but I say give them to someone who is at 7th every time there's a function and see how they hold up. I wouldn't buy them for price and looks. Give them to someone who has the ability to brake them and then you can put a price on them.
Good ideas for sure. I plan on putting them to the test asap in my car as soon as my Turbo50 Motor is broken in and the weather is clear. I'm probably somewhere around the 400 rwhp level, so it's a good first test.
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What the advantage of having adjustable upper control arms ?
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FivePTSlow
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Originally posted by 87droptop50:
What the advantage of having adjustable upper control arms ?
You can adjust your pinion angle for different applications.
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Originally posted by 87droptop50:
What the advantage of having adjustable upper control arms ?
pinion angle, larger tires iirc
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NEIGHT
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I've never had adjustable uppers. My tubular upper/lowers with wild rides torque boxes work good enough for me.
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Your going to want two nuts so can jam together so the dont come loose on you
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SwEeT03Gt
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Originally posted by LXjames:
They look good but I say give them to someone who is at 7th every time there's a function and see how they hold up. I wouldn't buy them for price and looks. Give them to someone who has the ability to brake them and then you can put a price on them.
or since he lives in sac he can hit the race track and really give em a beating
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FivePTSlow
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Originally posted by SETONKILL:
Your going to want two nuts so can jam together so the dont come loose on you
Good idea as well
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FivePTSlow
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Originally posted by SwEeT 03 Gt:
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Originally posted by LXjames:
They look good but I say give them to someone who is at 7th every time there's a function and see how they hold up. I wouldn't buy them for price and looks. Give them to someone who has the ability to brake them and then you can put a price on them.
or since he lives in sac he can hit the race track and really give em a beating
This is the plan. I have slicks already waiting to be put on.
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FivePTSlow
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Originally posted by NEIGHT:
I've never had adjustable uppers. My tubular upper/lowers with wild rides torque boxes work good enough for me.
I had southside machine(iirc) box control arms with poly bushings(no heim joints or spherical bushings) on my last 5.0 and I had major suspension bind that would all of a sudden let loose and send me into the next lane of traffic. That's why we wanted to go with the heim joint setup. Also looking into making adjustable lower arms with adjustable spring perches etc
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NEIGHT
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Originally posted by FivePTSlow:
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Originally posted by NEIGHT:
I've never had adjustable uppers. My tubular upper/lowers with wild rides torque boxes work good enough for me.
I had southside machine(iirc) box control arms with poly bushings(no heim joints or spherical bushings) on my last 5.0 and I had major suspension bind that would all of a sudden let loose and send me into the next lane of traffic. That's why we wanted to go with the heim joint setup. Also looking into making adjustable lower arms with adjustable spring perches etc
Oh I see. I can change the pinion angle with my torque boxes I have, does that eliminate the need for adjustable uppers?
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FivePTSlow
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Originally posted by NEIGHT:
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Originally posted by FivePTSlow:
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Originally posted by NEIGHT:
I've never had adjustable uppers. My tubular upper/lowers with wild rides torque boxes work good enough for me.
I had southside machine(iirc) box control arms with poly bushings(no heim joints or spherical bushings) on my last 5.0 and I had major suspension bind that would all of a sudden let loose and send me into the next lane of traffic. That's why we wanted to go with the heim joint setup. Also looking into making adjustable lower arms with adjustable spring perches etc
Oh I see. I can change the pinion angle with my torque boxes I have, does that eliminate the need for adjustable uppers?
That would be an interesting setup to see. I've never seen adjustable torque boxes before.
I would say it may lessen, but not eliminate the need for adjustable uppers. With this set of uppers I will now have adjustable uppers and lowers, so I have more ability to experiment with angles since I have more adjustment range.
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racsirx
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Not bad, but they will take longer to adjust since they are only a single adjustment, you will have to unbolt one end to adjust. With a double adjustable upper control arms you don't have to unbolt them to adjust. For $160 I would be worried on how long they will last, because if you use a cheap heim joint, they will oval out.
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NEIGHT
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Originally posted by FivePTSlow:
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Originally posted by NEIGHT:
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Originally posted by FivePTSlow:
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Originally posted by NEIGHT:
I've never had adjustable uppers. My tubular upper/lowers with wild rides torque boxes work good enough for me.
I had southside machine(iirc) box control arms with poly bushings(no heim joints or spherical bushings) on my last 5.0 and I had major suspension bind that would all of a sudden let loose and send me into the next lane of traffic. That's why we wanted to go with the heim joint setup. Also looking into making adjustable lower arms with adjustable spring perches etc
Oh I see. I can change the pinion angle with my torque boxes I have, does that eliminate the need for adjustable uppers?
That would be an interesting setup to see. I've never seen adjustable torque boxes before.
I would say it may lessen, but not eliminate the need for adjustable uppers. With this set of uppers I will now have adjustable uppers and lowers, so I have more ability to experiment with angles since I have more adjustment range.
These are the ones I have.
http://wildridesracecars.com/store/product.php?productid=16211&cat=249&bestseller=Y
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Originally posted by racsirx:
Not bad, but they will take longer to adjust since they are only a single adjustment, you will have to unbolt one end to adjust. With a double adjustable upper control arms you don't have to unbolt them to adjust. For $160 I would be worried on how long they will last, because if you use a cheap heim joint, they will oval out.
He says these are 28,000 load rated and the same that they usebon bagged trucks for years without any problems
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I need some lowers made, basically same idea as the uppers but a delrin rear bushing and heim up front an no spring perch as I have rear coilovers! Also my car has over 700hp and will really be putting them to test! Maybe I will grab the uppers too! I have the same style ones from another company now but for testing purposes I can run the whole set! I'll hit u up!
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Originally posted by *BlownMach1*- TRMYN8R:
I need some lowers made, basically same idea as the uppers but a delrin rear bushing and heim up front an no spring perch as I have rear coilovers! Also my car has over 700hp and will really be putting them to test! Maybe I will grab the uppers too! I have the same style ones from another company now but for testing purposes I can run the whole set! I'll hit u up!
We plan on getting into lowers pretty quick here too. Gotta get some testing on the uppers first
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Are they powder coated?
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FivePTSlow
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Are they powder coated?
Dan
This initial set is not powder coated. Just rattle can. If there is enough interest and people want to purchase sets we will work on getting them powder coated for sure.
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Originally posted by FivePTSlow:
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Originally posted by racsirx:
Not bad, but they will take longer to adjust since they are only a single adjustment, you will have to unbolt one end to adjust. With a double adjustable upper control arms you don't have to unbolt them to adjust. For $160 I would be worried on how long they will last, because if you use a cheap heim joint, they will oval out.
He says these are 28,000 load rated and the same that they usebon bagged trucks for years without any problems
The problem with that is a bagged truck wont put the same kinda load on them as your car with slicks and a stick will. in a bagged truck they dont see have the abuse they will in a race car. they may be fine is a 400 hp car but they dont look to have enough thread engagement to hold up to heavy drag racing
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Originally posted by Brandonn:
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Originally posted by FivePTSlow:
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Originally posted by racsirx:
Not bad, but they will take longer to adjust since they are only a single adjustment, you will have to unbolt one end to adjust. With a double adjustable upper control arms you don't have to unbolt them to adjust. For $160 I would be worried on how long they will last, because if you use a cheap heim joint, they will oval out.
He says these are 28,000 load rated and the same that they usebon bagged trucks for years without any problems
The problem with that is a bagged truck wont put the same kinda load on them as your car with slicks and a stick will. in a bagged truck they dont see have the abuse they will in a race car. they may be fine is a 400 hp car but they dont look to have enough thread engagement to hold up to heavy drag racing
We will see. This is why we're going to test them out prior to selling them. With a working load limit of 28,000lbs and my Coupe weighing in at around 2975lbs I would think it's a pretty safe bet, but again that's why we're gonna test them first.
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racsirx
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Originally posted by FivePTSlow:
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Originally posted by Brandonn:
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Originally posted by FivePTSlow:
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Originally posted by racsirx:
Not bad, but they will take longer to adjust since they are only a single adjustment, you will have to unbolt one end to adjust. With a double adjustable upper control arms you don't have to unbolt them to adjust. For $160 I would be worried on how long they will last, because if you use a cheap heim joint, they will oval out.
He says these are 28,000 load rated and the same that they usebon bagged trucks for years without any problems
The problem with that is a bagged truck wont put the same kinda load on them as your car with slicks and a stick will. in a bagged truck they dont see have the abuse they will in a race car. they may be fine is a 400 hp car but they dont look to have enough thread engagement to hold up to heavy drag racing
We will see. This is why we're going to test them out prior to selling them. With a working load limit of 28,000lbs and my Coupe weighing in at around 2975lbs I would think it's a pretty safe bet, but again that's why we're gonna test them first.
Brandonn, I agree, you should tell them who you work for.
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If necessary we can just get a heim joint with longer threads for strength. Mike thinks they will hold up just fine unless over 800hp, so we will test them to find out.
Thanks for the opinions guys keep them coming. We would like to put these into production soon.
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