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If the 3 officers had hog tied him and jumped him, then he would have reversed his argument around and called them out on using excessive force anyway. But like said before, we don't know the entire story. The video doesn't show the entire deal. You ever watch that Martin Lawrence movie called National Security? That could very well be the case here, and it also might not.
I think theres a difference in that was a movie and this is real life,, hello there was a shitload of witnesses, and you cannot comnpare hogtieing someone to tazzing them with 50,000 fukin volts.. try sticking ur finger in the electrical outlet,, thats only 10k to give you a ball park ![[Embarrassed]](redface.gif)
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(yahoo.com News)University police officers used a Taser on a student repeatedly during an altercation at the UCLA library at 11:30 pm November 15. There was a video made by a student witness, who captured only the end of the altercation with the student shouting profanities at the police and then screaming in pain when he was tasered.
What the video did not capture was that the student was asked repeatedly to leave by library security and refused. This led to the police being called. When the police took him by the arm to ensure that he left, he began to swear, threaten, and physically resist them. In short, he picked a fight with police and found out the hard way why that is generally a bad idea. Could police have tried to de-escalate the situation? Maybe.
Police stated that the student in question encouraged other students to join his one-man resistance, which likely led police to threaten the mob that surrounded the officers. The ACLU, of course, is calling the police's actions an illegal assault and police brutality. Because the video on the web only shows the tail end of the confrontation, and then only mostly audio, many people have begun to jump to conclusions about the matter. One columnist for the Daily Bruin has cautioned against to rampant knee-jerk responses to the matter.
On a campus where arrests due to student disruption seem common, it is little surprise that police take verbal abuse by students seriously. The response to the tasering seems to speak mostly of anti-police sentiment.
There are only a small number of ways to force an unruly individual to do what you want. You could physically strike them and encourage a hand-to-hand combat situation with a police office, which would likely threaten their own safety. You could beat the suspect with a baton causing no small amount of pain and physical harm. Or you could use a Taser, on the settting which they used, to encourage cooperation. In all but the cases of individuals high on drugs, Tasers do not cause fatalities. They choose the safest option for an uncooperative individual.
You reap what you sow. The idea, mostly coming from the left, that the police must treat citizens with the utmost level of respect while insisting that it's perfectly acceptable to verbally defecate on police officers and physically resist legitimate orders is absurd. He picked a fight with police and he lost. It's that simple.
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Well I'm going against the grain on this one with some of your opinions.
First off nobody here bare witness to the event so none of us are experts.
Second I saw at no time or read at no time did any UCLA PD officer inform the student that he was "under arrest" Obstructing a peace officer in their duties is totally different than resisting arrest.
When an officer is asked for his name and ID number they must comply as long as the situation is stable. If an officer refuses to give the requested information to the person requesting it the person should immediately request a patrol sergeant or watch commander to the scene (which will piss the officer off royally and piss his supe off even more for having to ditch his coffee and desk job playing solitare).
Was the student in the right? Yes and no. If he was complying by leaving the library building I fail to understand the issue. If the student forgot his UCLA ID card that's a simple mistake that ANY one of us could do on any given day with our drivers licenses or any other ID card.
I think that tasering someone repeatedly is bullshit unless the person is becoming violent and making threatening gestures towards an officer/s. In most likelyhood the officers were racially profiling the student due to his ethnicity.
And for the record I'm caucasian and a former Sac County Sheriff Recruit and this type of incident makes me want to puke. Fucking campus cops have nothing better to do with their time since they couldn't get hired with real city agencies.
Campus Cops are CHP officers.
Unless UCLA has a contract with CHP to provide law enforcement that's a crock of shit. CSU and UC police departments are totally separate from the California Highway Patrol. CHP provides security for the Governor & state government officials, State Capitol, state government buildings aside from traffic safety and investigations. If you care to debate this please do so. Our information comes from 4 family members whom are CHP officers.
The bottom line is the library attendant called for campus police assistance and when the officers showed up they should have immediately asked the student in question to leave. They would not have placed him under arrest for being in the library without proper ID. If the student refused to leave when asked by an officer then at that point he could have been placed under arrest and detained.
Honestly though you do the math Dana. 3 fully grown men with firearms, OC spray, hand cuffs, batons and tasers couldn't physically escort a young adult male out of the library? They must not be THAT well trained to not be able to do something as simple as escorting someone away from a library.
Granted also the kid was probably your typical pussy looking for an excuse to exploit the Patriot Act and racial profiling but if you all look at the grander scheme of things it boils down to one thing............................
The person in question IS actually a student and misplaced his ID. He should have been allowed to retrieve his ID from where ever it was and return to the library at that point.
Sac State police officers are CHP, if you think campus police officers are just regular security guards or students who want to be cops your 100% wrong.
Dana don't try and match wits with me on something you know nothing about. CSU Sacramento's Police Department IS NOT CHP. As I already previously stated I'd be happy to grab one of our relatives to set you straight if you fail to understand. Unless CSUS has changed their LE contract within the last month they have and will continue to be CSUS PD. You may see CHP vehicles on campus due to job fairs or the occassional drive throughs but again CHP does not provide services to CSU or UC regents.
When did I EVER state that campus cops are "security guards" or "students who wannabe cops"? Campus police officers at CSU or UC levels and even JC PD's generally ONLY hire persons whom posess PC830 academy training and have a POST certificate in hand. Dana I've taken this route so unless you have please don't argue about the facts.
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Campus Cops are CHP officers.
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[QUOTE]Sac State police officers are CHP.
hA HA.
DANA..
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IF A THEN B
therefore:
if it's B THEN A
IF NOT A THEN NOT B
IF NOT B THEN NOT A
one is right two are wrong. basic logic. according to both of your statements.. your logical reasoning is flawed.
you are right.. campus cops ARE cops, they are not security guards and all.. but stating that campus cops ARE CHPS becuase they are CHPS at your university is not accurate either.
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P.S. i lost all respect for you a long time ago so i don't really care if you lost respect for me.
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he gets what he desrves, if the officers were wrong he would have had his day in court, but i guess that fool wants to resist, so he asked for it...idiot...
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sf89lx will you please just STFU. not to many people respect your opinion on anything right now including my self... he asked for ...he got just what he was after. In the words of sf89lx's hero "why can't we all just get along"
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And for the record I'm caucasian and a former Sac County Sheriff Recruit
So, you never made it through the academy? Too soft I'm guessing. You also have no idea what it's like when someone resists. I'm stuck on desk duty for 9 months with a broken wrist because of a schizo drug addict that decided not to cooperate. If I had a tazer available I'd have used it until the batteries died. YOU CAN"T REASON WITH MORONS OR ZEALOTS.
It's actually a really good lesson for that kid, he has a whole new understanding of freedom now doesn't he!!!
UCLA PD is not CHP, they are their own entity. Ther ARE however, UC Campuses that use CHP officers. UCLA just isn't one of them.
http://www.ucpd.ucla.edu/ucpd/about_mission.html
The University of California Police Department at Los Angeles is mission driven to maintain a safer environment by maintaining a high state of readiness and providing crime prevention programs. Core values such as community betterment, teamwork, quality service and education development provide a firm base for public safety. The UCLA Police Department works closely with local law enforcement in a collaborative effort to prevent crime and apprehend criminal suspects.
Police officers of the UCLA Police Department are duly sworn peace officers under section 830.2(b) of the California Penal Code. The officers of the department are armed and possess the same authority under the law as municipal police officers. UCLA Police Officers patrol the campus 24 hours a day, 365 days a year. They enforce the law, arrest violators, investigate and suppress crime, investigate traffic and bicycle accidents, and provide a full range of services to the community. The Police Department enforces all applicable local, state and federal laws.
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I agree with their actions. Unless you yourself are a cop you have no reason to judge them. They have family and possible children they need to go home too. Too many cops get killed by being soft.
If people just listened to what they were told, this wouldn't happen. Simple as that. The guy was obviously trying to stir up some problems.
He was only told to "stand up" like 100 times. Does he not know english?
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Originally posted by 1968_Fastback:
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Well I'm going against the grain on this one with some of your opinions.
First off nobody here bare witness to the event so none of us are experts.
Second I saw at no time or read at no time did any UCLA PD officer inform the student that he was "under arrest" Obstructing a peace officer in their duties is totally different than resisting arrest.
When an officer is asked for his name and ID number they must comply as long as the situation is stable. If an officer refuses to give the requested information to the person requesting it the person should immediately request a patrol sergeant or watch commander to the scene (which will piss the officer off royally and piss his supe off even more for having to ditch his coffee and desk job playing solitare).
Was the student in the right? Yes and no. If he was complying by leaving the library building I fail to understand the issue. If the student forgot his UCLA ID card that's a simple mistake that ANY one of us could do on any given day with our drivers licenses or any other ID card.
I think that tasering someone repeatedly is bullshit unless the person is becoming violent and making threatening gestures towards an officer/s. In most likelyhood the officers were racially profiling the student due to his ethnicity.
And for the record I'm caucasian and a former Sac County Sheriff Recruit and this type of incident makes me want to puke. Fucking campus cops have nothing better to do with their time since they couldn't get hired with real city agencies.
Campus Cops are CHP officers.
Unless UCLA has a contract with CHP to provide law enforcement that's a crock of shit. CSU and UC police departments are totally separate from the California Highway Patrol. CHP provides security for the Governor & state government officials, State Capitol, state government buildings aside from traffic safety and investigations. If you care to debate this please do so. Our information comes from 4 family members whom are CHP officers.
The bottom line is the library attendant called for campus police assistance and when the officers showed up they should have immediately asked the student in question to leave. They would not have placed him under arrest for being in the library without proper ID. If the student refused to leave when asked by an officer then at that point he could have been placed under arrest and detained.
Honestly though you do the math Dana. 3 fully grown men with firearms, OC spray, hand cuffs, batons and tasers couldn't physically escort a young adult male out of the library? They must not be THAT well trained to not be able to do something as simple as escorting someone away from a library.
Granted also the kid was probably your typical pussy looking for an excuse to exploit the Patriot Act and racial profiling but if you all look at the grander scheme of things it boils down to one thing............................
The person in question IS actually a student and misplaced his ID. He should have been allowed to retrieve his ID from where ever it was and return to the library at that point.
Sac State police officers are CHP, if you think campus police officers are just regular security guards or students who want to be cops your 100% wrong.
Dana don't try and match wits with me on something you know nothing about. CSU Sacramento's Police Department IS NOT CHP. As I already previously stated I'd be happy to grab one of our relatives to set you straight if you fail to understand. Unless CSUS has changed their LE contract within the last month they have and will continue to be CSUS PD. You may see CHP vehicles on campus due to job fairs or the occassional drive throughs but again CHP does not provide services to CSU or UC regents.
When did I EVER state that campus cops are "security guards" or "students who wannabe cops"? Campus police officers at CSU or UC levels and even JC PD's generally ONLY hire persons whom posess PC830 academy training and have a POST certificate in hand. Dana I've taken this route so unless you have please don't argue about the facts.
They are CHP officers, i talked to them before i started my first semester to find out how safe my Mustang would be on campus. You can get your relatives out and prove yourself wrong i don't care.
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And for the record I'm caucasian and a former Sac County Sheriff Recruit
So, you never made it through the academy? Too soft I'm guessing. You also have no idea what it's like when someone resists. I'm stuck on desk duty for 9 months with a broken wrist because of a schizo drug addict that decided not to cooperate. If I had a tazer available I'd have used it until the batteries died. YOU CAN"T REASON WITH MORONS OR ZEALOTS.
Police officers of the UCLA Police Department are duly sworn peace officers under section 830.2(b) of the California Penal Code. The officers of the department are armed and possess the same authority under the law as municipal police officers.
1) Since you deemed it appropriate to judge and assume things about me without evening knowing me is it safe for me to assume that you're an asshole? Are you one of the power hungry pricks that has to make his point all the time just because you can? I don't owe you an explanation of my choices but I personally chose to leave the academy to accept a full time career firefighter position that I previously tested for which was my ultimate goal to start with.
2) Strange that I already posted that UC and CSU officers are fully sworn law enforcement officers under PC 830.2 and yet you seemed to have overlooked that aspect. Is it safe for me to ASSUME that you overlook other things as well? Great police work there detective. Perhaps Walgreens is recruiting for a head of security position. You should inquire within. Or perhaps you can become Sacramento's version of a pet detective. "Douche Ventura, pet defective"
Oh and Dana you go right ahead thinking what you will. I don't care whom to talked with nor the fact that you attend CSUS. When I get back later tonight I'll be happy to own your ass with hard facts rather than s relative. Hang tight bubba.
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Originally posted by Hozr:
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And for the record I'm caucasian and a former Sac County Sheriff Recruit
So, you never made it through the academy? Too soft I'm guessing. You also have no idea what it's like when someone resists. I'm stuck on desk duty for 9 months with a broken wrist because of a schizo drug addict that decided not to cooperate. If I had a tazer available I'd have used it until the batteries died. YOU CAN"T REASON WITH MORONS OR ZEALOTS.
Police officers of the UCLA Police Department are duly sworn peace officers under section 830.2(b) of the California Penal Code. The officers of the department are armed and possess the same authority under the law as municipal police officers.
1) Since you deemed it appropriate to judge and assume things about me without evening knowing me is it safe for me to assume that you're an asshole? Are you one of the power hungry pricks that has to make his point all the time just because you can? I don't owe you an explanation of my choices but I personally chose to leave the academy to accept a full time career firefighter position that I previously tested for which was my ultimate goal to start with.
2) Strange that I already posted that UC and CSU officers are fully sworn law enforcement officers under PC 830.2 and yet you seemed to have overlooked that aspect. Is it safe for me to ASSUME that you overlook other things as well? Great police work there detective. Perhaps Walgreens is recruiting for a head of security position. You should inquire within. Or perhaps you can become Sacramento's version of a pet detective. "Douche Ventura, pet defective"
Oh and Dana you go right ahead thinking what you will. I don't care whom to talked with nor the fact that you attend CSUS. When I get back later tonight I'll be happy to own your ass with hard facts rather than s relative. Hang tight bubba.
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http://www.csus.edu/police/
http://police.ucdavis.edu/
Tell me why it is Dana that the University of California Davis AND California State University Sacramento police departments state nothing of the fact of being CHP employees or mentioning anything in regard to the CHP?
You are correct in one aspect. State campus police officers are technically "State" employees and posess the same training that all other POST PC 830.2 graduates have. Just because they are state does not make them California Highway Patrol officers. The actual California State Police was absorbed by the CHP back in the late 90's and subsequently all California State Police officers became CHP officers.
Also please show me where on any of the linked websites you find anything denoting a CHP uniform or patrol car.
Dana I understand you attend CSU Sacramento. That's fine. My better half graduated from CSUS in 2000 and I attended CSUS in 1993 only. We live approximately 4 miles from the campus. We drive through it quite often and usually will see in plain view at least one California State University patrol car each time. However if you think they are CHP go right ahead and think that. You're only making yourself look dumber.
So by your logic is it safe to assume that just because UC Davis has their own fire department are they part of CDF?
I'd definately like to see some hard facts from your side other than you just running off at the mouth. So far you've shown us nothing and I completed a simple internet search and have proven you wrong.
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don't they mace anybody anymore?
Seems like they are always so trigger happy with those dam tazers, pepper spray works just as well on a sober normal sized person and its less risky
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don't they mace anybody anymore?
Seems like they are always so trigger happy with those dam tazers, pepper spray works just as well on a sober normal sized person and its less risky
Officers use O.C. spray now. And it really wouldn't be a good option, considering that they're indoors and there is a good possibility the mist could get into the HVAC system. This is one of the reasons it is a misdemeanor to bring O.C. into a custodial facility, and a felony if the O.C. is discharged without authorization.
It is difficult to tell from the quality of the video whether the "student" was passively resistant (i.e. not complying with officers commands) or actively resisting. The officers are authorized to use that force which is necessary to overcome the resistance of another and to effect the arrest. If the policies and procedures of the UCLA Police Department authorize its officers to utilize a tazer against someone who offers passive resistance (mentioned in a newspaper article), then there is really no issue.
At the very least, the "student" could be charged with Trespassing (602 P.C.) and Resisting, Delaying, or Obstructing an Officer in the Lawful Performance of Duties (148 P.C.).
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don't they mace anybody anymore?
Seems like they are always so trigger happy with those dam tazers, pepper spray works just as well on a sober normal sized person and its less risky
Officers use O.C. spray now. And it really wouldn't be a good option, considering that they're indoors and there is a good possibility the mist could get into the HVAC system. This is one of the reasons it is a misdemeanor to bring O.C. into a custodial facility, and a felony if the O.C. is discharged without authorization.
It is difficult to tell from the quality of the video whether the "student" was passively resistant (i.e. not complying with officers commands) or actively resisting. The officers are authorized to use that force which is necessary to overcome the resistance of another and to effect the arrest. If the policies and procedures of the UCLA Police Department authorize its officers to utilize a tazer against someone who offers passive resistance (mentioned in a newspaper article), then there is really no issue.
At the very least, the "student" could be charged with Trespassing (602 P.C.) and Resisting, Delaying, or Obstructing an Officer in the Lawful Performance of Duties (148 P.C.).
I can definately agree with you on the student being detained/arrested for PC 148 violation but I don't think the 602 would hold water. First if the library attendant wasn't a worthless spineless cocksucker and actually asked the student to go retrieve his student ID the entire situation could have been defused without LE even being summoned to the scene.
He technically wasn't trespassing since he is technically a UCLA student. He was however uncooperative so arresting him for creating a public disturbance as well as resisting arrest would hold water.
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okay,, so if u watch the video,,ur telling me that 3 grown big ass officers dont have the manpower to lift someone off the ground, hog tie, and take them out the building, so they have to resort to tazing someone repeatedly to get them to comply... im sorry, that is just ![[BS flag]](graemlins/bs_flag.gif) x 1,00000,0000000,000 ![[Mad]](mad.gif)
P.S. i lost all respect for you a long time ago so i don't really care if you lost respect for me.
This may just be your best post you have EVER had and gains my respect
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P.S. i lost all respect for you a long time ago so i don't really care if you lost respect for me.
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Why dont you just get over it, buy a Prius and change your screen name to SF07hybrid? Every single post you make has a shitty political message behind it.... you make yourself sound like a tree hugging, dick sucking, hybrid driver. When you posted that bullshit about taking the day off for illegals you spouted a bunch of crap. I tried to post and you ended up ignoring me because you couldnt come up with a response to what I was saying. If you want to support the tree hugging faggots then sell your poluting evil american made Mustang and move along.... I'm sure they have many boards you can post on where at least more than two other people will agree with you.
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And for the record I'm caucasian and a former Sac County Sheriff Recruit
So, you never made it through the academy? Too soft I'm guessing. You also have no idea what it's like when someone resists. I'm stuck on desk duty for 9 months with a broken wrist because of a schizo drug addict that decided not to cooperate. If I had a tazer available I'd have used it until the batteries died. YOU CAN"T REASON WITH MORONS OR ZEALOTS.
Police officers of the UCLA Police Department are duly sworn peace officers under section 830.2(b) of the California Penal Code. The officers of the department are armed and possess the same authority under the law as municipal police officers.
1) Perhaps Walgreens is recruiting for a head of security position. You should inquire within.
Im sorry,but having worked for that company in the past,I can GUARENTEE they make double,maybe even TRIPLE what you do ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
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http://www.csus.edu/police/
http://police.ucdavis.edu/
Tell me why it is Dana that the University of California Davis AND California State University Sacramento police departments state nothing of the fact of being CHP employees or mentioning anything in regard to the CHP?
You are correct in one aspect. State campus police officers are technically "State" employees and posess the same training that all other POST PC 830.2 graduates have. Just because they are state does not make them California Highway Patrol officers. The actual California State Police was absorbed by the CHP back in the late 90's and subsequently all California State Police officers became CHP officers.
Also please show me where on any of the linked websites you find anything denoting a CHP uniform or patrol car.
Dana I understand you attend CSU Sacramento. That's fine. My better half graduated from CSUS in 2000 and I attended CSUS in 1993 only. We live approximately 4 miles from the campus. We drive through it quite often and usually will see in plain view at least one California State University patrol car each time. However if you think they are CHP go right ahead and think that. You're only making yourself look dumber.
So by your logic is it safe to assume that just because UC Davis has their own fire department are they part of CDF?
I'd definately like to see some hard facts from your side other than you just running off at the mouth. So far you've shown us nothing and I completed a simple internet search and have proven you wrong.
No you proved me right, from your own sources.
"Officers receive the same academy and advanced officer training as their municipal and county law enforcement counterparts."
Now if you go talk to one of the cops you'll find out they went through the CHP academy and considered CHP officers. OWNED! So now that you've been proven wrong i accept your apology and will move on to telling SF98LX hes crazy.
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okay,, so if u watch the video,,ur telling me that 3 grown big ass officers dont have the manpower to lift someone off the ground, hog tie, and take them out the building, so they have to resort to tazing someone repeatedly to get them to comply... im sorry, that is just x 1,00000,0000000,000
P.S. i lost all respect for you a long time ago so i don't really care if you lost respect for me.
This may just be your best post you have EVER had and gains my respect
haha ok even if i will argue about streetracing issues huh?
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Originally posted by SF89lx:
okay,, so if u watch the video,,ur telling me that 3 grown big ass officers dont have the manpower to lift someone off the ground, hog tie, and take them out the building, so they have to resort to tazing someone repeatedly to get them to comply... im sorry, that is just x 1,00000,0000000,000
P.S. i lost all respect for you a long time ago so i don't really care if you lost respect for me.
This may just be your best post you have EVER had and gains my respect
haha ok even if i will argue about streetracing issues huh?
oh yeah man thats different ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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http://www.csus.edu/police/
http://police.ucdavis.edu/
Tell me why it is Dana that the University of California Davis AND California State University Sacramento police departments state nothing of the fact of being CHP employees or mentioning anything in regard to the CHP?
You are correct in one aspect. State campus police officers are technically "State" employees and posess the same training that all other POST PC 830.2 graduates have. Just because they are state does not make them California Highway Patrol officers. The actual California State Police was absorbed by the CHP back in the late 90's and subsequently all California State Police officers became CHP officers.
Also please show me where on any of the linked websites you find anything denoting a CHP uniform or patrol car.
Dana I understand you attend CSU Sacramento. That's fine. My better half graduated from CSUS in 2000 and I attended CSUS in 1993 only. We live approximately 4 miles from the campus. We drive through it quite often and usually will see in plain view at least one California State University patrol car each time. However if you think they are CHP go right ahead and think that. You're only making yourself look dumber.
So by your logic is it safe to assume that just because UC Davis has their own fire department are they part of CDF?
I'd definately like to see some hard facts from your side other than you just running off at the mouth. So far you've shown us nothing and I completed a simple internet search and have proven you wrong.
No you proved me right, from your own sources.
"Officers receive the same academy and advanced officer training as their municipal and county law enforcement counterparts."
Now if you go talk to one of the cops you'll find out they went through the CHP academy and considered CHP officers. OWNED! So now that you've been proven wrong i accept your apology and will move on to telling SF98LX hes crazy.
ATTENTION: All law enforcement officers statewide.
YOU ARE ALL CHP OFFICERS.
Dana say's so and he is an expert on law enforcement training because he attends Sacramento State.
(fine print: Dana did it ever cross your narrow mind that the idiot that you talked with was a CHP dropout that couldn't hack the CHP academy and therefore he wants to impress people by telling students that don't know shit from shinola about law enforcement? Just because an officer has a POST PC 830.2 certificate in his or her hand DOESN'T make them all CHP officers. CHP does not set the standard for California law enforcement. CHP officers are merely meter reading Cal Trans employee's with badges, OC spray and firearms training. UC and CSU police officers DO NOT attend the CHP training academy in West Sacramento Dana. Let me repeat that since you have a hard time understanding the English language.... THEY DO NOT ATTEND THE CALIFORNIA HIGHWAY PATROL ACADEMY!.)
Dana you have yet to provide any of us with hard factual information. Running your mouth and trying to prove facts by only your personal limited knowledge only makes you look like a muscle bound bonehead. Show us some hard facts to prove me wrong.
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He should respect their athoritah......
LMFAO!!
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