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Also dont forget, their culture/religion is deeply rooted in the martyr belief. So to die fighting for what he believed in is actually celebrated. And many over there would love to take his place and do the same things with the same ending. So it is indeed a no win struggle as far as that goes
Wrong. He woulda been viewed as a Martyr if he committed suicide. That's exactly what he would have done if we went in and attempted to detain him.
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In my opinion, I could care less if this is Bush's ploy or whatever. It's a confirmed kill? Good. The man is dead and we don't need his presence. Now bring his dead body here so I can throw my piss n sh*t at him. And where is Bin Ladin's head on a stick????
I feel sorry for the man who's son was beheaded. I don't think anybody knows how he feels. But I feel no remorse for terrorist turds who take the lives of such innocent people in a cowardly fashion.
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Actually this is the definition of a martyr:
"One who chooses to suffer death rather than renounce religious principles."
That pretty much sums up him and all those extremist Al Queda dudes tho.
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Originally posted by n8y8:
Actually this is the definition of a martyr:
"One who chooses to suffer death rather than renounce religious principles."
That pretty much sums up him and all those extremist Al Queda dudes tho.
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Originally posted by n8y8:
Honestly I kinda feel like this dude does about it. This is a quote from one of the victims relatives.
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"Michael Berg, whose son Nick was beheaded in Iraq in 2004, had a different reaction to the news that al-Zarqawi had been killed in an air strike, saying he felt “no sense of relief, just sadness that another human being had to die.”
“As the poet John Donne said, any man’s death diminishes me. It doesn’t bring my son back, and this will just bring a new cycle of revenge killings,” Michael Berg said."
But its easy to have my stance when it isnt my relative. But I think of things this way. Now we will back to a level red terror alert. And I thought Osama was the number fugitive right now?
GOOD POINT AND I THOUGHT ABOUT THAT AFTER I POSTED GOOD LAST NIGHT THAT REALLY ITS NOT GOOD ANOTHER PERSON HAS DIED AND THINK OF ALL THE INNOCENT PEOPLE OR PEOPLE WHO SHOULD HAVE TO BE DEALING W THAT BUT AS MUCH AS I DONT LIKE TO PRAISE DEATH AND STUFF ITS LIKE ID RATHER HAVE PEOPLE LIKE HIM GONE THEN A SOLDIER OF OURS JUST DOING HIS JOB OR LIL KIDS OR INNOCENT FAMILIES OVER THEIR HAVING TO JUST TRY AND GET BY AND STAY ALIVE I WOULD DEFINITLY LIKE TO SEE MORE OF THE BAD PEOPLE GO IN HOPES THAT MAYBE THIS WILL END SOON OR NO MORE PEOPLE HAVE TO DIE BUT ITS PART OF LIFE ONCE THIS DOES END OR IS OVER ANOTHER ONE WILL START UP SOME WHERE ELSE NOT TO ADD ALL THE STUFF GOING ON ALL OVER THE WORLD BUT GLAD U POSTED THAT FOR ANOTHER POV ON THE SITAUTION AND ANOTHER LOOK AT THE BIGGER PICTURE
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Father's of man beheaded by Al Zarqawi reaction http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/06/08/berg.interview/index.html
I'm sorry but calling someone who beheads people for fun or for his policial views a human is the craziest thing i have ever heard.
WELL BUSH IS CLOSE AND A BUNCH OF PEOPLE THINK HES A GREAT PERSON-HUMAN THATS WHY THE VOTED FOR THE IDIOT AND CONTINUE TO SUPPORT HIM SOOO...
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Father's of man beheaded by Al Zarqawi reaction http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/06/08/berg.interview/index.html
I'm sorry but calling someone who beheads people for fun or for his policial views a human is the craziest thing i have ever heard.
WELL BUSH IS CLOSE AND A BUNCH OF PEOPLE THINK HES A GREAT PERSON-HUMAN THATS WHY THE VOTED FOR THE IDIOT AND CONTINUE TO SUPPORT HIM SOOO...
Bush doesn't behead people with a knife while they are still alive begging for their life....So comparing the two is like apples and carrots. I really hope you see the difference there. ![[Eek!]](eek.gif)
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I am glad the worthless pice of shit is dead. They Kill inocent people because of there religous beliefs ![[Confused]](confused.gif) wtf. If you can stand there and cut a persons head off for no reson other than you don't like them ,am I suposed to feel bad when he gets killed? I don't feel bad for killers in America when they get the death penalty either. There are to many good people out there to feel sorry for then to waste a breath feeling sorry for a terrorist who Kills inocent Moms and kids(twin towers) to push a religous agenda. My response has nothing to do with Bush or the war just how I feel. I hope binladen is next.
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Maybe he's still in one piece because it wasn't a direct hit..... hmmm Think about it.
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Originally posted by HaulinAssMaro:
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Originally posted by FoRdGiRl:
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Originally posted by n8y8:
Honestly I kinda feel like this dude does about it. This is a quote from one of the victims relatives.
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"Michael Berg, whose son Nick was beheaded in Iraq in 2004, had a different reaction to the news that al-Zarqawi had been killed in an air strike, saying he felt “no sense of relief, just sadness that another human being had to die.”
“As the poet John Donne said, any man’s death diminishes me. It doesn’t bring my son back, and this will just bring a new cycle of revenge killings,” Michael Berg said."
But its easy to have my stance when it isnt my relative. But I think of things this way. Now we will back to a level red terror alert. And I thought Osama was the number fugitive right now?
GOOD POINT AND I THOUGHT ABOUT THAT AFTER I POSTED GOOD LAST NIGHT THAT REALLY ITS NOT GOOD ANOTHER PERSON HAS DIED AND THINK OF ALL THE INNOCENT PEOPLE OR PEOPLE WHO SHOULD HAVE TO BE DEALING W THAT BUT AS MUCH AS I DONT LIKE TO PRAISE DEATH AND STUFF ITS LIKE ID RATHER HAVE PEOPLE LIKE HIM GONE THEN A SOLDIER OF OURS JUST DOING HIS JOB OR LIL KIDS OR INNOCENT FAMILIES OVER THEIR HAVING TO JUST TRY AND GET BY AND STAY ALIVE I WOULD DEFINITLY LIKE TO SEE MORE OF THE BAD PEOPLE GO IN HOPES THAT MAYBE THIS WILL END SOON OR NO MORE PEOPLE HAVE TO DIE BUT ITS PART OF LIFE ONCE THIS DOES END OR IS OVER ANOTHER ONE WILL START UP SOME WHERE ELSE NOT TO ADD ALL THE STUFF GOING ON ALL OVER THE WORLD BUT GLAD U POSTED THAT FOR ANOTHER POV ON THE SITAUTION AND ANOTHER LOOK AT THE BIGGER PICTURE
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Father's of man beheaded by Al Zarqawi reaction http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/06/08/berg.interview/index.html
I'm sorry but calling someone who beheads people for fun or for his policial views a human is the craziest thing i have ever heard.
WELL BUSH IS CLOSE AND A BUNCH OF PEOPLE THINK HES A GREAT PERSON-HUMAN THATS WHY THE VOTED FOR THE IDIOT AND CONTINUE TO SUPPORT HIM SOOO...
thats the great thing about america FREEDOM OF SPEECH and were allowed to have opinions which we dont always have to agree on
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What alot of people fail to remember is that terrorists and extremists like him would kill you for just being an american.
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This is the same guy that pulled Iraq kids off a bus and killed them cause they were a different tribe or whatever they go by over there.
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fuck this guy im glad hes dead. let someone step up in his place...and let that person share the same fate.
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Originally posted by DLo:
In my opinion, I could care less if this is Bush's ploy or whatever. It's a confirmed kill? Good. The man is dead and we don't need his presence. Now bring his dead body here so I can throw my piss n sh*t at him. And where is Bin Ladin's head on a stick????
I think Bin is dead. There were alot of rumors back in 2001 about him dying, plus he hasn't shown his face in years.
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Originally posted by 2stangs69-91:
I am glad the worthless pice of shit is dead. They Kill inocent people because of there religous beliefs wtf. If you can stand there and cut a persons head off for no reson other than you don't like them ,am I suposed to feel bad when he gets killed? I don't feel bad for killers in America when they get the death penalty either. There are to many good people out there to feel sorry for then to waste a breath feeling sorry for a terrorist who Kills inocent Moms and kids(twin towers) to push a religous agenda. My response has nothing to do with Bush or the war just how I feel. I hope binladen is next.
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Maybe he's still in one piece because it wasn't a direct hit..... hmmm Think about it.
LOL did you see the videos? It was a direct hit on on the house he was in. It turned the house into rubble you wouldn't know anything was there once if not for the bricks and wood
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Yea, I posted this before I had seen the video. Who knows how he died. It will be a mystery where he was actually when the bombs hit.
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Maybe he was running like a little bitch outside his house or something because he got a tip it was going to happen but it was too late and BOOM he was blown 4 blocks down the road killed by the concussion
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Apparently what you see in the pic is pretty much all that is left of him. Lower torso gone bye bye.
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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Abu Musab al-Zarqawi initially survived the explosion of two 500-pound (227 kg) bombs and tried to escape when U.S. troops reached the mortally wounded leader of al Qaeda in
Iraq, the U.S. military said on Friday.
The account of Zarqawi's death offered by Army Maj. Gen. William Caldwell differed in several details, including Zarqawi's initial survival, from one presented by the U.S. military a day earlier. Zarqawi and five others were killed on Wednesday after an F-16C bombed them in a house near the town of Baquba, north of Baghdad, the military said.
"Zarqawi, in fact, did survive the air strike," Caldwell, the top U.S. military spokesman in Iraq, told reporters at the
Pentagon by teleconference. He said Zarqawi mumbled unintelligibly before he died.
"The first people on the scene were the Iraqi police," Caldwell added. "They had found him and put him into some kind of gurney, stretcher kind of thing, and then American coalition forces arrived immediately thereafter on-site."
"They immediately went to the person in the stretcher (and) were able to start identifying by some distinguishing marks on his body. They had some kind of visual, facial recognition," he said.
"Zarqawi attempted to, sort of, turn away off the stretcher. Everybody re-secured him back onto the stretcher, but he died almost immediately thereafter from the wounds he'd received from this air strike," Caldwell said.
He told Fox News Channel Zarqawi "attempted to roll off the stretcher, as I am told, and get away, realizing it was U.S. military."
Zarqawi "mumbled a little something but it was indistinguishable and it was very short," he told the Pentagon briefing.
Troops at the site tried to give medical treatment to Zarqawi before he died, Caldwell said, citing a U.S. military report, but he said he could not estimate how long Zarqawi was alive after the raid.
There were no indications in the report that Zarqawi had been shot, he said.
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U.S. forces cleaned up a bloody Zarqawi before taking the pictures that were shown to the world, Caldwell said.
"His face was very, very bloodied. And we made a conscious decision that if we were going to take photographs of him and make them available publicly, like we did in the press conference, that we were going clean him up," Caldwell said.
The pictures were not digitally enhanced, he said.
On why his account differed from Thursday's one in Baghdad, Caldwell said, "As with any operation that ever occurs, first reports are never 100 percent correct, and we do continue to follow up to make sure we have established exactly what the facts were on the ground."
He said only two of the six killed in the raid have been positively identified: Zarqawi and his spiritual adviser Sheikh Abdul-Rahman. Caldwell said "three males and three females -- no children" were killed. The military said on Thursday one child had died.
Caldwell said he tried to learn how Zarqawi could have survived the huge bomb blasts. "And we do not know -- and I've looked through the report -- as to whether or not it was because he might have been right outside (the house) or whatever."
About 25 people were detained and one killed in 17 raids conducted after Zarqawi's death, he said.
One F-16 delivered both bombs even though two planes were assigned the mission because the second was engaged in aerial refueling when the attack order was given, Caldwell said.
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