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Stimpys 5.0
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I recently bought a 68 and I want to upgrade the brakes to disc, I wanted to see what some of u guys are using, and where to shop around at. If I already have an 8.8 diff, is worth the trouble putting on, or should I just look for a nine inch and slap on the 9" diff.
I also would like some suggestions on what materials to use to prep the body for paint. I already went throught the car and it has absolutely no rust.
I will be looking to buy an after market hood, some fenders and a trunk lid, if anyone has that please shoot me a pm. If u have other misc. Things for my 68 lmk.
Thanks guys
Aaron.
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1989 burgundy coupe
1968 mustang 289 - 4 speed
1989 white lx (totalled)
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68dustin
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From what i understand is the 8.8 is about 1/2 wider, so if you havent gotten any rims yet i would put the 8.8 in. What are your long term goals? racing, or just a good street car? on my 68 i went with the baer 12" rotors. i missed one key part buildin my car. I would def put a rack and pinion on it. It's my last thing to do, but i should have done it at the beginning.
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68dustin
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http://www.discbrakeswap.com/ great place to get disc brakes for a good price. I've heard nothing but good things about this place. I was going to go with them, but i found a killer deal on e-bay for my baer setup.
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2000BlackGT
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Originally posted by 68dustin:
From what i understand is the 8.8 is about 1/2 wider, so if you havent gotten any rims yet i would put the 8.8 in. What are your long term goals? racing, or just a good street car? on my 68 i went with the baer 12" rotors. i missed one key part buildin my car. I would def put a rack and pinion on it. It's my last thing to do, but i should have done it at the beginning.
What steering did you go with? I'm in the middle of doing a Borgenson swap on my 65.
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wilit
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Originally posted by Stimpys 5.0:
I recently bought a 68 and I want to upgrade the brakes to disc, I wanted to see what some of u guys are using, and where to shop around at. If I already have an 8.8 diff, is worth the trouble putting on, or should I just look for a nine inch and slap on the 9" diff.
Welcome to the '68 club!
If I were to do a drum to disc swap and keep it on the cheap, I'd go this route. http://budgetrestomod.weebly.com/disc-brakes---scarebird.html
Or, if you want to spend a little more money and get a better setup, I'd go with this setup http://www.vintagevenom.com/front-disc-mustang-brake-conversion-kit.htm
I plan on doing an 8.8 swap for my '68. 9" rears are great if you're making crazy power. If not, an 8.8 is a better swap because 1. they're less expensive 2. they handle quite a bit of power 3. they swap in with minimal work 4. they take less HP to turn than a 9". A fox 8.8 is almost exactly the same width as a stock 8". The 99+ 8.8's are 1/2" wider, but come with 5-lug discs so they're a better swap axle IMO.
[ July 27, 2010, 02:24 PM: Message edited by: wilit ]
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wilit
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Originally posted by 68dustin:
this is the rack that im going with:
http://www.aeroform.com/powersteeringrackfor67-68mustang.aspx
Nice looking rack!
That's a great find. I was thinking of going with the Unisteer kit, but it's the same price for a manual rack. A power rack for under $900 is a killer price.
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68dustin
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Yeah thats a great deal, i believe its a knock off sterroids rack.
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Posts: 3991 | From: neverland | Registered: Feb 2005
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You can find a 8.8 rearend with disc brakes posi and a alot of different gear ratios available used, there cheap to come by too. if you know how to weld you can get a complete built disc rearend under your 68 mustang for around $500 if you shop around.
for front disc brakes I would go with the 13" Cobra brakes up front. they are cheap and if you needed replacements they would be available from other sources other then only aftermarket unlike those other disc conversion kits.
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Mustangs plus in stockton also has hella stuff for the old schools. ![[dance]](graemlins/dance.gif)
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68dustin
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http://www.cjponyparts.com/Default.asp?camid= great place to buy parts. shipping is free + no sales tax. Only downfall is the wait, about week and half before you get your parts.
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Stimpys 5.0
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My bad guys I was looking at my post in general talk and had no replys so then I look at the tech section and I see the new comments...... so yeah. Back to The topic.
I do have an 8.8 already. I would like to run some bullits or some 01 cobra wheels.
I really just want a Lil good street car but also a good dd. I want to make sure I have the right stuff the first time so I'm not going back and forth,and wasting money and time. This is a car I plan to keep, so I want it done right. I'll check out those sites you guys posted.
Keep me informed
Thanks
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1968 mustang 289 - 4 speed
1989 white lx (totalled)
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Captain Obvious
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Originally posted by Stimpys 5.0:
My bad guys I was looking at my post in general talk and had no replys so then I look at the tech section and I see the new comments...... so yeah. Back to The topic.
I do have an 8.8 already. I would like to run some bullits or some 01 cobra wheels.
I really just want a Lil good street car but also a good dd. I want to make sure I have the right stuff the first time so I'm not going back and forth,and wasting money and time. This is a car I plan to keep, so I want it done right. I'll check out those sites you guys posted.
Keep me informed
Thanks
for the rearend all you have to do is grind all the control arm brackets off and weld on a new set of spring perches, use your old rearend as a reference for the spacing of the perches and the pinion angle.
if your going to run the bullits/01 cobra wheels with the 4.5 back spacing; you will need to run atleast a 1" spacer up front to clear the upper control arm ball joint area.
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68dustin
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hey can you do me a favor: i want to know what the measurements are from the face of the axle to the other face of the axle on the 8.8.
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Originally posted by 68dustin:
hey can you do me a favor: i want to know what the measurements are from the face of the axle to the other face of the axle on the 8.8.
heres what I got of a rearend sitting around. the measurements should all be the same for any 87-93 mustang with an 8.8
from mounting flange to mounting flange on the housing = 54 1/4
from axle to axle. measurments are to th mounting side with out drums just axles in place. with drums add about 1/4 total to the below measurements.
= 59 3/16 - 59 1/4
axle to axle is a rough measurement (the clutches in the diff are not new, so there is play for the axles to move in and out
(very little but it does move)
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68dustin
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thanks!!
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BCINGUU
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I have stock 68 manual front discs on my 67, and they work pretty well. Maybe not as good as a bigger aftermarket kit, but easy to install and you can get them pretty cheap.
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CaliCoop
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Do what I did, I had the same dilema your having, I just went and bought a ford exploere rearend and I took the old rear end out and took it to river city diff in sac, and he measured everything out and adjust the axle shaft lengths and shortened some of it and now I have rear disc brakes, 4:10 gears with 31 spline axles all in the same offset as the 8inch I took out all for under $600. I'm very happy with the setup in my 68 stang
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1991 Silver&Black Notchback on Vogues,Mach 1's, Black Bullits, Black Chrome Saleens
2000 Camaro SS "SOLD"
1968 Stang 5spd coupe
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Stimpys 5.0
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Hey bro, you might have bring your stang out here and let me check it out.
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1968 mustang 289 - 4 speed
1989 white lx (totalled)
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CaliCoop
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No problem, let me know when you are available and have time, I live in sac so its not a problem
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1991 Silver&Black Notchback on Vogues,Mach 1's, Black Bullits, Black Chrome Saleens
2000 Camaro SS "SOLD"
1968 Stang 5spd coupe
Posts: 412 | From: Mack Rd. Sacramento | Registered: Sep 2006
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wilit
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Originally posted by CaliCoop:
Do what I did, I had the same dilema your having, I just went and bought a ford exploere rearend and I took the old rear end out and took it to river city diff in sac, and he measured everything out and adjust the axle shaft lengths and shortened some of it and now I have rear disc brakes, 4:10 gears with 31 spline axles all in the same offset as the 8inch I took out all for under $600. I'm very happy with the setup in my 68 stang
That's a pretty good deal. I've been looking for 8" center sections for the stock rear end and they're $500-$600. Getting 4.10's, 31 splines, a posi, and disc brakes for under $600 is a really great deal.
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CaliCoop
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Yeah it was a pretty good deal found it CL some guy in pinole had like 2 of them laying aroung so I bought one, much better deal than buying a 8" center section for $995 @ mustangs plus and possibly blowin it out and be mad, just did a lil research and took the plunge, all worked out in the end, great deal for my wallet and great budget, major upgrade
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1991 Silver&Black Notchback on Vogues,Mach 1's, Black Bullits, Black Chrome Saleens
2000 Camaro SS "SOLD"
1968 Stang 5spd coupe
Posts: 412 | From: Mack Rd. Sacramento | Registered: Sep 2006
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