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<table border="0" cellpadding="1" cellspacing="1" width="99%" align="center"> <tr bgcolor="#000000"><td> <table border="0" width="100%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0"> <tr bgcolor="#000099"> <td colspan="2" align="left"> <font size="2" color="#ffffff" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>T O P I C R E V I E W</b> </font></td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>66coupe</b> <br /><small>Member # 8549</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2009,3,30,16,43,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> hey guys so my friends dad is willing to sell me a good running 460 really cheap. but im not sure if it will clear my engine bay with the shock towers.... how much is a mustang 2 conversion? or would i need one?<br /> <br /> <small>[ April 30, 2009, 04:46 PM: Message edited by: 66coupe ]</small> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>whitelx91</b> <br /><small>Member # 8317</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2009,3,30,18,28,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> i wanna see pics! <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>66coupe</b> <br /><small>Member # 8549</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2009,3,30,18,33,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> well just fund out it wont fit unless i cut the shocktowers. and i dont have 1000 bucks to get a mustang 2 front suspension so... i guess im gonna look for a 5.0 motor or something <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>92stangLX</b> <br /><small>Member # 3252</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2009,3,30,18,57,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> not worth the trouble IMO. That thing is too heavy! <br /><br />A good combo for your car would be a 351 based stroker. Should fit with a bit of modification. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>68gtscode</b> <br /><small>Member # 8679</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2009,3,30,19,9,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> 385 series big blocks fit nicely in 67 up cars, but I believe the shock towers on 66 and earlier cars are narrower. Here's a link to a swap kit w/ some decent pictures of a 67 up. Good luck,<br /><br />Matt<br /><br /><a href="http://www.mpgheads.com/Header/MotorMt.htm" target="_blank">http://www.mpgheads.com/Header/MotorMt.htm</a> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>92stangLX</b> <br /><small>Member # 3252</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2009,3,30,19,20,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> not worth the trouble IMO. That thing is too heavy! <br /><br />A good combo for your car would be a 351 based stroker. Should fit with a bit of modification. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>166 Merlot</b> <br /><small>Member # 1549</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2009,3,30,19,23,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> ur gonna need a 6" cowl hood. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>66coupe</b> <br /><small>Member # 8549</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2009,3,30,20,11,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> ya im going to drop the oil pan on my 289 and see if the cranks ok and if i can switch the bearings cause i got rod knock. but im debating whether to buy a 5.0 roller motor if the motors bad or a beater. i dont have alot of money and ill only be here for about 3 more months cause im going in the navy <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>68gtscode</b> <br /><small>Member # 8679</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2009,3,30,20,40,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by 66coupe:<br /><strong> ya im going to drop the oil pan on my 289 and see if the cranks ok and if i can switch the bearings cause i got rod knock. but im debating whether to buy a 5.0 roller motor if the motors bad or a beater. i dont have alot of money and ill only be here for about 3 more months cause im going in the navy </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">If it's only for 3 months I wouldn't do either... ride the bus if you have to! <br /><br />Matt <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>F.or O.nly R.eal D.rivers</b> <br /><small>Member # 8971</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2009,4,1,12,9,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> You can make a 302 do the samething that 460 will do,without all that weight on the front <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>65mustang408</b> <br /><small>Member # 8681</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2009,4,2,0,25,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> 460 wont be even close. nice 302 will be perfect. 351w's with the shock towers kinda suck changing spark plugs and getting headers on. mustang II suspension is at least 2000 unless you know sombody. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>KeithStang7</b> <br /><small>Member # 1945</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2009,4,2,0,54,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> My uncle and I put a 460 in a 69 Mach1. We had to cut the towers to get it to fit. I think we took the front springs from an old lincoln just to get the front end to stay up. I was in high school at the time so it's been some time ago. We had some cooling issues during the hot months. It was a very heavy front end car. But you can't beat the sound of a true big block. You would be better off stroking a 351w. Less hassle, less cooling issues, more parts in the aftermarket world. Good Luck <img border="0" alt="[patriot]" title="" src="graemlins/patriot.gif" /> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>Big block 66 f100</b> <br /><small>Member # 8867</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2009,4,2,3,38,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by F.or O.nly R.eal D.rivers:<br /><strong> You can make a 302 do the samething that 460 will do,without all that weight on the front </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">not really but a 302 will do the job doesnt sound like he is tryin to build a race car a roller 302 bcam headers and intake that 66 will run good <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>66coupe</b> <br /><small>Member # 8549</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2009,4,6,0,10,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> would a 351 cleveland fit in my car? i can get a really good deal for it from my friend <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>crazyhorse</b> <br /><small>Member # 5662</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2009,4,6,0,26,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> the only way to fit a cleveland would be by modifying or removing your shock towers. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>66coupe</b> <br /><small>Member # 8549</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2009,4,6,0,45,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> i heard on allfordmustangs that it does fit, without modification... and several people said that so idk <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="confused.gif" /> hers the link<br /><br /><a href="http://www.allfordmustangs.com/forums/classic-tech/76441-351-cleveland-into-1965-coupe-questions.html#post1522304" target="_blank">http://www.allfordmustangs.com/forums/classic-tech/76441-351-cleveland-into-1965-coupe-questions.html#post1522304</a><br /><br />has anyone done the actual swap or knows someone? <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>Bigjerry916</b> <br /><small>Member # 8787</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2009,4,6,1,5,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> i had a 65 with a 351c in it for a lil bit and the shock towers wrent hacked just a tight squeeze. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>crazyhorse</b> <br /><small>Member # 5662</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2009,4,6,1,9,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by 66coupe:<br /><strong> i heard on allfordmustangs that it does fit, without modification... and several people said that so idk <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="confused.gif" /> hers the link<br /><br /> <a href="http://www.allfordmustangs.com/forums/classic-tech/76441-351-cleveland-into-1965-coupe-questions.html#post1522304" target="_blank">http://www.allfordmustangs.com/forums/classic-tech/76441-351-cleveland-into-1965-coupe-questions.html#post1522304</a> <br /><br />has anyone done the actual swap or knows someone? </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">the guy who said that it fits said if a fits probly thinks the windsor and cleveland are the same size. The Cleveland is like 2 inches wider than the windsor. I had to pass on a cheap cleveland block because of that. not to mention the parts are easier to find for 302's and 351w's <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>66coupe</b> <br /><small>Member # 8549</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2009,4,6,1,10,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> so it fit fine? just a little tight right? and how did u think about the setup?<br />the one my friends selling is based off a 351 but is a 400. so since i dont think ford made a 400 windsor and they did make a 400 cleveland im pretty sure its a cleveland. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>66coupe</b> <br /><small>Member # 8549</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2009,4,6,1,15,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> ya i just wish i could find a 351 windsor or a roller 5.0 motor complete. but i know two peple who are selling a complete good running 351 cleveland motor so idk what to do. i leave in 2 and a half months but i need a car until them. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>68gtscode</b> <br /><small>Member # 8679</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2009,4,6,2,59,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by 66coupe:<br /><strong> so it fit fine? just a little tight right? and how did u think about the setup?<br />the one my friends selling is based off a 351 but is a 400. so since i dont think ford made a 400 windsor and they did make a 400 cleveland im pretty sure its a cleveland. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">The 400 is actually a "400M" which I believe stands for "Modified." It shared some similarities with the Cleveland, but I don't think they are very good for high performance use. I do remember seeing years ago a company was making adapter plates so you could bolt on 351C intake manifolds to these things. I guess the threory is/was you could get a set of 351C 4V heads and be able to run a performance manifold. Again though, I really don't think many people try to build these things for high performance use. <br /><br />As one of the previous posts stated, you'd be better off with a 351W because of the aftermarket popularity. <br /><br />Matt <br /> </font> </td></tr> </table></td></tr></table> <br /> <br />
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