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Just got the car back last Sat. on 91 octane with 1 can of Toroc Unleaded in tank pulled 841.6 RWHP and 652 lbs. tq. Torque level held all the way to 7000 RPM. (did not drop at all)

Built and tuned by Speed Freaks...by the way am running Methanol Water injection for my coolingagent...65 lb injectors maxed out at this HP....also Methanol injectors need to be larger or need 2 injectors into throttle body.
only pulling 16 lbs. of boost at 7000 rpm

Have waited 17 months for these results.

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When I get to the office ,will scan dyno results and post...do not have scanner at home

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dayum Larry, congrats. i bet ur stoke with these results. u got to give me a call one of these days for a joy ride.

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wow great numbers! i wish i can have 1/2 of the numbers you make [patriot]

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just a quick note...this was on a Mustang Dyno,whish registers 10% less rwhp than a dyno jet.

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ur gonna make me finish my 32v project now.

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quote:
Originally posted by Larry:
just a quick note...this was on a Mustang Dyno,whish registers 10% less rwhp than a dyno jet.

Very, VERY, nice numbers....

.....but Mustangs Dynos do not read 10% lower than dynojets, reguardless of the common myth.

That particular dyno and facility is famous for throwing down outrageously high dyno numbers for a given setup. Also, Mustang Dyno's allow the ability to warp dyno numbers very easily.

I guess the only accurate meassure of RWHP is the quarter mile trap speeds vs. vehical weight.

A bunch of CaFords people will be out at the track this Saturday. See you there? [burnout]

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Damn, those are the highest t trim #s ive ever seen. i should have just went with a t trim istead of my tt kit. why didnt anyone tell me this was possible:confused:

[ December 13, 2007, 02:14 PM: Message edited by: twins ]

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As I stated..it's not just the t-trim..I am only putting out 16 lbs.of boost ,when the blower is capable of 26 lbs. It's my head work (320 intake and 235 exhaust hand ported, stage 2 cams,etc....)Menthaol,1/2 fuel rails and lines,1000 series Aeromotive fuel pump, along with special ordered parts for the motor capable of over 1400 hp. 10 qt. Canton with windage tray,special built oil pump,a whole lot of extras too many to mention.

And to 94 Gt! Don"t know where you get your info. on Speed Freaks exagerating their Dyno No.'s..I have seen guys come out of their shop dissappointed with their results based on other Dynos..But Ravi would make no adjustments. I have also seen cars come from another Dyno, Dyno Jet and make much less HP than on Ravi's dyno.That was Performance Dyno..A very good shop.

Statements like this about another Competitor is very unprofessional.

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As I stated..it's not just the t-trim..I am only putting out 16 lbs.of boost ,when the blower is capable of 26 lbs. It's my head work (320 intake and 235 exhaust hand ported, stage 2 cams,etc....)Menthaol,1/2 fuel rails and lines,1000 series Aeromotive fuel pump, along with special ordered parts for the motor capable of over 1400 hp. 10 qt. Canton with windage tray,special built oil pump,a whole lot of extras too many to mention.

And to 94 Gt! Don"t know where you get your info. on Speed Freaks exagerating their Dyno No.'s..I have seen guys come out of their shop dissappointed with their results based on other Dynos..But Ravi would make no adjustments. I have also seen cars come from another Dyno, Dyno Jet and make much more HP than on Ravi's dyno.That was Performance Dyno..A very good shop.

Statements like this about another Competitor is very unprofessional.

Sorry...this posted twice..not intended.

[ December 13, 2007, 07:56 PM: Message edited by: Larry ]

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I have an E-Mail from Mustang Dyno I would like to forward to this post. How do I do it!

thanks for your help,Larry

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quote:
Originally posted by Yellow94GT:
quote:
Originally posted by Larry:
just a quick note...this was on a Mustang Dyno,whish registers 10% less rwhp than a dyno jet.

Very, VERY, nice numbers....

.....but Mustangs Dynos do not read 10% lower than dynojets, reguardless of the common myth.

That particular dyno and facility is famous for throwing down outrageously high dyno numbers for a given setup. Also, Mustang Dyno's allow the ability to warp dyno numbers very easily.

I guess the only accurate meassure of RWHP is the quarter mile trap speeds vs. vehical weight.

A bunch of CaFords people will be out at the track this Saturday. See you there? [burnout]

I too have heard about mustang dyno's putting out low numbers, but very repeatable numbers. I've dyno'd on a mustang dyno at full function and thought the numbers were low. I talked to my machine shop and they informed me about the low but repeatable numbers, rumor was that you could dyno anywhere and get the same numbers with a mustang. I also talked to an individual that same day who dyno'd where I did and then dyno'd the next day on a superflow I think he said and claimed a 50 hp difference. Simply put there not supposed to be great for bragging right's but good for using between mods and seeing the gains a certain mod makes for you.
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Ravi tuned your car? Nice numbers, goodluck with that [patriot]

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quote:
Originally posted by Larry:
I have an E-Mail from Mustang Dyno I would like to forward to this post. How do I do it!

thanks for your help,Larry

Your car sound's like a beast ! Sound's like You have a well thought out combo so don't worry about constructive crtisism [Wink] . I'm not sticking up for Drew but as You know "and Drew stated" the best way to get a true HP # is to go to the strip and weigh Your vehicle & get Your trap speed & then there is no dispute betweeen different dyno's & shop's ect.... You going to be running on slick's or DR's? You going to trailer it to the strip or drive it? Any pic's of the car? I am waiting for a new tune before I get Mine out again because I have done alot of thing's since My last tune and am tired of messing with it and changing head gasket's [BS flag]

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Damn, what the hell are you going to do with all that horsepower? Even if the "real #'s" are 100hp lower, that is still 200hp more than I will ever experience.

Is your car set up to handle all that power? If so you are going to be screaming down the track!!

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quote:
Originally posted by Larry:


Have waited 17 months for these results.

Should very well be worth the wait.

Nice numbers, can't wait to see it run!

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Larry don't waste your time with the Drag Radials you have(use them on the street). I have a set of 16in Mustang rims at the house. Buy some 28 X 11.50 X 16 ET streets, and that will put you at the 142mph you will need with that amount of power. The 26in tall DRs you have will make you have to go into 5th, which is a waste of time for your first time at the track, trying to prove your HP numbers.

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Thanks Don! Will take you up on your offer and get the 28 " tires.

As far as My Cobra have almost all I need for traction ,tubular k mem.,A frames 6 pt. Adj, shocks upper and lower control larms,sub frame conn., 6 pt. roll cage,Gregs alum. drive shaft,Tri mec Cobra R 6 speed with 26 spline in put shaft, 410 Eaaton Posi, with metal clutch pacs,31 spline Moser axels.Mccloud twin disc clutch rated at 1200 lbs tq.

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Im sure you will have to get the chassis tuned in and get used to driving the car, but once that is up to par and reflects the performance of your engine, you will be flying down the quarter..if that is your goal.

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just got off the phone with LARRY, man does it sound like a beast. from my impression he built this car to tear up the streets. running on pump gas. give me a call when its my turn to take out for the joy ride. congrats [burnout]

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quote:
Originally posted by Larry:
As I stated..it's not just the t-trim..I am only putting out 16 lbs.of boost ,when the blower is capable of 26 lbs. It's my head work (320 intake and 235 exhaust hand ported, stage 2 cams,etc....)Menthaol,1/2 fuel rails and lines,1000 series Aeromotive fuel pump, along with special ordered parts for the motor capable of over 1400 hp. 10 qt. Canton with windage tray,special built oil pump,a whole lot of extras too many to mention.

Those numbers look like supra dyno's LOL.

You have an A1000 fuel pump? Those things are only rated to 800 FI. I would think you'd run out of pump before then. I know that when I had that pump I could only do around 600 with it before I wasn't able to generate enough flow. And when the sucker was ran hard and got hot it really dropped off bad.

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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by Larry:
As I stated..it's not just the t-trim..I am only putting out 16 lbs.of boost ,when the blower is capable of 26 lbs. It's my head work (320 intake and 235 exhaust hand ported, stage 2 cams,etc....)Menthaol,1/2 fuel rails and lines,1000 series Aeromotive fuel pump, along with special ordered parts for the motor capable of over 1400 hp. 10 qt. Canton with windage tray,special built oil pump,a whole lot of extras too many to mention.

Those numbers look like supra dyno's LOL.

You have an A1000 fuel pump? Those things are only rated to 800 FI. I would think you'd run out of pump before then. I know that when I had that pump I could only do around 600 with it before I wasn't able to generate enough flow. And when the sucker was ran hard and got hot it really dropped off bad.

Good stuff Larry, can't wait to see it run!

I'm turning over 700 rwhp with a A1000 and have no issues...maybe that BS is a import thing??
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as for dyno numbers, you can make them read anything you want. repeatability is the important part. i can change 1 number and make your kn air filter increase your wheel hp 75hp. doesnt mean shit in real life. biggest thing is tuning it in with the af, if you cant brag with your mph, it aint worth much
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as for dyno numbers, you can make them read anything you want. repeatability is the important part. i can change 1 number and make your kn air filter increase your wheel hp 75hp. doesnt mean shit in real life. biggest thing is tuning it in with the af, if you cant brag with your mph, it aint worth much

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