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<table border="0" cellpadding="1" cellspacing="1" width="99%" align="center"> <tr bgcolor="#000000"><td> <table border="0" width="100%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0"> <tr bgcolor="#000099"> <td colspan="2" align="left"> <font size="2" color="#ffffff" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>T O P I C R E V I E W</b> </font></td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>autumnstang97</b> <br /><small>Member # 6111</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2005,9,29,1,32,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> is it posible to swap my 2v heads off my 97 gt for a pair of 4v cobra heads?...the block is the same how hard can it be?...i wanna drop in 03/04 SVT heads in my 97 with the blower and everything...of course the computer has to switched over to a cobra computer...but is this swap possible or am i just better off buying a cobra motor?...thanks a bunch <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>two-gun kid</b> <br /><small>Member # 5891</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2005,9,29,1,44,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> i have heard of people doing the swap but the sn95 motors wont handle the boost and you be searching for small pieces and it will be a pita. you would be better off buying the complete motor and wiring harness. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>94gt</b> <br /><small>Member # 3060</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2005,9,29,12,46,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> not quite so, the blocks in the 96-98 cobras are, so far, the strongest ford 4.6 aluminum blocks available on a cobra/mach<br /> <br /> <small>[ October 29, 2005, 01:31 PM: Message edited by: 94gt ]</small> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>Apexmotorsports</b> <br /><small>Member # 5307</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2005,9,30,0,44,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> You could add the 03 Heads and blower to your block. It is not as simple as just bolting on the heads and blower though. You will need get a new wiring harness and I believe the 03-04 Cobra computer. Your engine should be able to handle the boost since it is cast iron and the Cobra Blower is only 8Lbs. Also, do you have the 03-04 Cobra and the wiring harness yet?<br /> <br /> <small>[ October 30, 2005, 12:50 AM: Message edited by: Apexmotorsports ]</small> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>tonster</b> <br /><small>Member # 6093</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2005,9,30,3,48,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> for the price of getting the 4v heads to go on you'd be better off using your money for a pi swap. frick, you could prolly get some svo heads and a kb blower for the same price for the whole thing. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>Apexmotorsports</b> <br /><small>Member # 5307</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2005,9,30,10,44,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> If you get a KB Blower and PI heads you would easily get 400RWHP & 400RWTQ. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>tonster</b> <br /><small>Member # 6093</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2005,9,30,16,45,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Apexmotorsports:<br /><strong> If you get a KB Blower and PI heads you would easily get 400RWHP & 400RWTQ. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">i thought pi heads bump up the compression to a point where its not ideal to have a blower without building up the bottom end? <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>94gt</b> <br /><small>Member # 3060</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2005,9,30,18,24,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by tonster:<br /><strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Apexmotorsports:<br /><strong> If you get a KB Blower and PI heads you would easily get 400RWHP & 400RWTQ. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">i thought pi heads bump up the compression to a point where its not ideal to have a blower without building up the bottom end? </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">several of the newedge gt's get blown and are fine... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>Red00GT</b> <br /><small>Member # 5653</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2005,9,30,21,36,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by 94gt:<br /><strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by tonster:<br /><strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Apexmotorsports:<br /><strong> If you get a KB Blower and PI heads you would easily get 400RWHP & 400RWTQ. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">i thought pi heads bump up the compression to a point where its not ideal to have a blower without building up the bottom end? </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">several of the newedge gt's get blown and are fine... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">but the newer edge GT's dont have a high compression.<br /><br />when doing a PI Swap on a non PI motor..the compression rises to roughly 10.5:1 <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>94gt</b> <br /><small>Member # 3060</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2005,9,30,21,49,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Red00GT:<br /><strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by 94gt:<br /><strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by tonster:<br /><strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Apexmotorsports:<br /><strong> If you get a KB Blower and PI heads you would easily get 400RWHP & 400RWTQ. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">i thought pi heads bump up the compression to a point where its not ideal to have a blower without building up the bottom end? </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">several of the newedge gt's get blown and are fine... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">but the newer edge GT's dont have a high compression.<br /><br />when doing a PI Swap on a non PI motor..the compression rises to roughly 10.5:1 </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">and mach1's have a 10.1:1 compression ratio... and get blown all the time w/o a problem. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>autumnstang97</b> <br /><small>Member # 6111</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2005,9,30,22,0,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> whats the compression of a stock 97 gt anyway? 9.5:1? so upgrade to PI heads and intake and slap a KB blower on it?...ok ...sounds good to me.... <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>Apexmotorsports</b> <br /><small>Member # 5307</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2005,9,30,22,59,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> We currently have 3-4 customers who are running KB's on 2000-2004 GT's with no issues. Infact, ALL OF THEM are pulling over 400RWHP & 420RWTQ on pump gas and most of them drive their cars weekly. One customer has logged over 10K miles since we installed his KB & tuned it... no problems at all.<br /><br />The compression ratio for 1997 is 9:1. I know the Cobras were 9.85:1 for sure. Switching to PI heads and slapping a KB on it would make you smile <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" /> I love KB's.. you gotta love the instant power that it delivers at 2000 RPM <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="smile.gif" /><br /> <br /> <small>[ October 30, 2005, 11:19 PM: Message edited by: Apexmotorsports ]</small> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>Roush2960</b> <br /><small>Member # 672</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2005,9,30,23,25,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> I can say the KB is a blast. I have had mine now for over a year and near 10K miles on it. My numbers are 419RWHP / 429 RWTQ and thats on a safe tune with well over 100 + dyno runs. All work has been done at Apex Motorsports and tuning.<br /><br />If you were to change to PI heads your compression will be up-ed. In the 10-10.5 range. If you decide to go that route you will definatly want to go intercooled and start at 8 psi. That would put you in the 400 rwhp range. <br /><br />Next you will want to look at you clutch and rear setup. The torque increase will tear the rear out of the car. I had too so just an FYI. <br /><br />How many miles are on your current block. If its over 130k miles you might want to look at getting a new motor outta a wrecked 2K + car. They can be had for realitive cheap cost (3k-ish)with about 20K-ish miles on them. <br /><br />I can say that if you do it you will have to learn how to drive your car all over again...Thats not a bad thing.<br /><br />Matt<br /> <br /> <small>[ October 30, 2005, 11:29 PM: Message edited by: Roush2960 ]</small> <br /> </font> </td></tr> </table></td></tr></table> <br /> <br />
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