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<table border="0" cellpadding="1" cellspacing="1" width="99%" align="center"> <tr bgcolor="#000000"><td> <table border="0" width="100%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0"> <tr bgcolor="#000099"> <td colspan="2" align="left"> <font size="2" color="#ffffff" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>T O P I C R E V I E W</b> </font></td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>twstd5o</b> <br /><small>Member # 1981</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2005,1,4,13,44,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> I have a built bottom end. Can I pull my chip out and run a NOS stage 1 dry kit on it with the base timing set at 10? <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>TRIXSNK</b> <br /><small>Member # 2844</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2005,1,4,14,16,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> Don't see why you couldn't but i was just thinking about your Auto tranny?<br /><br />Did they set-up the chip for adjusting any shift variables.<br /><br />Just thinking of the worst case scenarios...also don't really know about the 5.0's but wouldn't a wet kit be safer since the 5.0 are unlike the newer sn95 w/ the plastic intake<br /><br /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="confused.gif" /> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>88gt</b> <br /><small>Member # 579</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2005,1,4,15,14,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> What shot is a "stage 1"? If it's 50-100 you should be fine as long as you have big enough pumps and injectors. You'd also want to change plugs. If you're only doing a 50 shot you could probably get away with timing at 10*, but any more than that you'd want to bump it down. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>AJBlackGT</b> <br /><small>Member # 3936</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2005,1,4,15,27,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> Dry kits are actually a little safer because they dont have fuel in the upper intake. On 5.0s the runners are long and sometimes the fuel can puddle up with a wet kit and cause a backfire. As long as you have enough injector and pump you should be fine. Remove 2 degrees timing per 50hp squeezed and use 1 step colder plugs for anything above a 75 shot. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>twstd5o</b> <br /><small>Member # 1981</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2005,1,4,15,32,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> Well I have 30lbs injectors and a 255lph pump. I have a 75 shot right now.<br /><br />My tranny has a shift kit in there and I usually shift on my own vs. letting it shift itself.<br /><br />I have Autolite 3924s in there now. Would I have to close the gap a bit too? So you would also recommend that I lower my timing to 8 vs. leaving it at 10?<br /><br />Thanks for the input guys <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>HungryHippo</b> <br /><small>Member # 537</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2005,1,4,15,37,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> i'd leave the chip in and lower the base timing 2-4*. plug gap should be no more than .045 <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>mtbaughs</b> <br /><small>Member # 4052</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2005,1,4,22,6,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> Step down a heat range from the stock plug for your heads. I'd be very cautious about adding to much power with a dry kit. If anything before you run it I would check air fuel on the dyno but I suggest that with any NOS kit. Unless you see a safe ratio on paper you are guessing whether or not your motor will be happy. For $65 for the dyno pulls thats peace of mind and it will point out any potential issues.<br /> <br /> <small>[ February 04, 2005, 10:31 PM: Message edited by: mtbaughs ]</small> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>93lx342</b> <br /><small>Member # 1793</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2005,1,6,21,53,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> just have it tuned on the dyno. i have blown several head gaskets waiting to get my cars tuned. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>hidnn.o.s.</b> <br /><small>Member # 1219</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2005,1,6,22,30,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> I have never had any problems running nitrous on my cars. I have never paid for a "dyno tune." I ran a 150 shot for almost a year on my 93 Cobra through the cats. Ran consistent 12.1-.3's for a long long time. Sold the car. Then ran a 125 shot on my 93 GT AOD vert. I've ran those kits on approx 5-6 fox's that I have owned over the years. I kill the gap (35 thou or so), run a good pump, drop the timing, colder plugs, etc.<br /><br />I think dyno tuning on mild cars is a waste of money. <br /> </font> </td></tr> </table></td></tr></table> <br /> <br />
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