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<table border="0" cellpadding="1" cellspacing="1" width="99%" align="center"> <tr bgcolor="#000000"><td> <table border="0" width="100%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0"> <tr bgcolor="#000099"> <td colspan="2" align="left"> <font size="2" color="#ffffff" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>T O P I C R E V I E W</b> </font></td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>meetthedealer</b> <br /><small>Member # 4555</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2004,5,15,11,21,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> i have a 93 cobra block with a e 303 cam right know i have stock cast iron gt40 heads <br />i want to get more power should i go with trick folw if so which ones or afr heads which one is better. is their some thing better i dont know about please help <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>chosen1</b> <br /><small>Member # 1906</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2004,5,15,11,56,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> AFR165's <img border="0" alt="[patriot]" title="" src="graemlins/patriot.gif" /> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>meetthedealer</b> <br /><small>Member # 4555</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2004,5,15,11,58,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> thats what i hear but im tempted to go with the 185 afr why isnt that a good idea <br />thanks <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>PeNiNsula302</b> <br /><small>Member # 1061</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2004,5,15,12,2,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by chosen1:<br /><strong> AFR185's <img border="0" alt="[patriot]" title="" src="graemlins/patriot.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>chosen1</b> <br /><small>Member # 1906</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2004,5,15,12,3,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> i dont think you will have enough p-v clearance with the 185's/stock pistons/and any decent cam. <br /><br />if you do a rebuild and better pistons, then 185s <img border="0" alt="[patriot]" title="" src="graemlins/patriot.gif" /> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>chosen1</b> <br /><small>Member # 1906</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2004,5,15,12,4,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> the trickflow TW are also a great set of heads too btw. <br /><br />this topic debate has been covered a million times. i suggest searching. there have been some great replies. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>87 Saleen</b> <br /><small>Member # 1549</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2004,5,15,12,46,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> get trickflows and boost the bitch <img border="0" alt="[burnout]" title="" src="graemlins/burnout.gif" /> skee-skirt <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>JoeT</b> <br /><small>Member # 298</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2004,5,15,15,46,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> I dunno, if it was me I'd be thinking about a couple heads:<br /><br />(with 351 based considerations later)<br /><br />edelbrock vic jr's (and seniors)<br />tfs tw and hi-ports<br />AFR-185s<br /><br />I'd pretty much let cost/future/current plans dictate which one I went with.<br /><br />I have TFS TW heads now, am happy with their results but would like to step up to maybe an AFR-185 for use on a 302 now and a 351 based motor soon. my TFS TW heads were only $935 brand new though. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>1SLOWLX</b> <br /><small>Member # 558</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2004,5,15,17,42,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> TFS heads ported by TEA <img border="0" alt="[worship]" title="" src="graemlins/worship.gif" /> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>AaronC</b> <br /><small>Member # 86</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2004,5,15,17,59,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> IMO, 185's are a waste with an E cam. Most of the gain of the 185's over the 165's is after .500 lift. To really take advantage of the 185's you need a cam with some duration and lift along with some RPM. Plan on spinning a 302 AFR 185 setup to a minimum 6500+ RPM to get good results. For a good all around street/strip setup I like to match them with a RPM intake, longtube header, a off shelf comp cam of 224/224 .560/.560 lift 110 LSA and run on a 110 ICL. With 10:1 compression and a good shortblock and tune it shouldn't have any problems making 350 RWHP/350 RWTQ. I'm actually thinking about running that setup myself when I get another shortblock. Possibly later this year. It should be simple, fun and reliable <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>98slowhoe 'FIFTYLX'</b> <br /><small>Member # 895</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2004,5,15,18,8,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by AaronC:<br /><strong> IMO, 185's are a waste with an E cam. Most of the gain of the 185's over the 165's is after .500 lift. To really take advantage of the 185's you need a cam with some duration and lift along with some RPM. Plan on spinning a 302 AFR 185 setup to a minimum 6500+ RPM to get good results. For a good all around street/strip setup I like to match them with a RPM intake, longtube header, a off shelf comp cam of 224/224 .560/.560 lift 110 LSA and run on a 110 ICL. With 10:1 compression and a good shortblock and tune it shouldn't have any problems making 350 RWHP/350 RWTQ. I'm actually thinking about running that setup myself when I get another shortblock. Possibly later this year. It should be simple, fun and reliable </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ <img border="0" alt="[patriot]" title="" src="graemlins/patriot.gif" /> <br /><br />I would listen to him <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>meetthedealer</b> <br /><small>Member # 4555</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2004,5,16,11,30,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> all that would be smog legal right? <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>2stangs69-91</b> <br /><small>Member # 1951</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2004,5,16,11,59,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> all except the long tubes. As far as a cam being legal it is pretty mutch what will pass the snifer. I don't know if the 185's are street legal but it is not easy to tell which version you have with your accesories bolted up. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>meetthedealer</b> <br /><small>Member # 4555</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2004,5,16,12,20,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> i heard a x cam and other big cams are ilegal cause your car will not pass smog how can u cheat a smog dyno <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>JoeT</b> <br /><small>Member # 298</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2004,5,16,13,19,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> you "cheat" a smog dyno by having emissions that sneak under the allowable HC/Nox/etc #'s, it's really that simple.<br /><br />if you have a good tune, there are a number of "smog illegal" setups that will pass, sometimes even not having cats or a functioning EGR would produce passable #'s (although rare) <br /> </font> </td></tr> </table></td></tr></table> <br /> <br />
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