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<table border="0" cellpadding="1" cellspacing="1" width="99%" align="center"> <tr bgcolor="#000000"><td> <table border="0" width="100%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0"> <tr bgcolor="#000099"> <td colspan="2" align="left"> <font size="2" color="#ffffff" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>T O P I C R E V I E W</b> </font></td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>graylx</b> <br /><small>Member # 3919</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2004,5,13,2,52,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> I may have found a source for AFR heads at a decent price. I am thinking of rebuilding my engine--boring it .030 over to make it a 306. I have heard that 165s are best for the 302 or 306 but I am tempted to get 185s because they are not that much more and I may want to upgrade later <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> . (I realize that I will have to either have the pistons notched or buy notched pistons with the 185s). With the right cam and intake, will the 185s work as well (if not better than) the 165s? What cam and intake would work best with either if I wanted to remain smog legal? I was thinking either the Holley Systemax II intake or the Edelbrock Performer. Any opinions? Thanks <img border="0" alt="[patriot]" title="" src="graemlins/patriot.gif" /> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>94gt</b> <br /><small>Member # 3060</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2004,5,13,2,58,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> I wanna know the same things brotha! <img border="0" alt="[patriot]" title="" src="graemlins/patriot.gif" /> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>graylx</b> <br /><small>Member # 3919</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2004,5,13,3,3,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by 94gt:<br /><strong> I wanna know the same things brotha! <img border="0" alt="[patriot]" title="" src="graemlins/patriot.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"><img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" /> We both keep odd hours! <img border="0" alt="[Whoo Whooooo!]" title="" src="graemlins/woowoo.gif" /> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>94gt</b> <br /><small>Member # 3060</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2004,5,13,3,11,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by graylx:<br /><strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by 94gt:<br /><strong> I wanna know the same things brotha! <img border="0" alt="[patriot]" title="" src="graemlins/patriot.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"><img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" /> We both keep odd hours! <img border="0" alt="[Whoo Whooooo!]" title="" src="graemlins/woowoo.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I'm usually up this late due to my work hours, and tonite it was due to some beers! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="smile.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[burnout]" title="" src="graemlins/burnout.gif" /> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>graylx</b> <br /><small>Member # 3919</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2004,5,14,6,40,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> TTT. Bueller? Bueller?<br /> <br /> <small>[ June 14, 2004, 06:40 AM: Message edited by: graylx ]</small> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>forced331</b> <br /><small>Member # 1270</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2004,5,14,7,34,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> Those heads will work fine. Either intake will work, if you go Elelbrock get the RPM intake. The heads will work better if you at least go with 9.5:1 compression. Try the TFS stage 1 cam with 1.7 rockers. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>mtbaughs</b> <br /><small>Member # 4052</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2004,5,14,8,19,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> The car will have less bottom end power with the 2.02 intake head. They should only be run with an aggressive camshaft on a 302, a motor built to rev or with a power adder. Otherwise I'd stick with a 1.90 intake head <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>chosen1</b> <br /><small>Member # 1906</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2004,5,14,8,24,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by mtbaughs:<br /><strong> The car will have less bottom end power with the 2.02 intake head. They should only be run with an aggressive camshaft on a 302, a motor built to rev or with a power adder. Otherwise I'd stick with a 1.90 intake head </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"><img border="0" alt="[patriot]" title="" src="graemlins/patriot.gif" /> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>graylx</b> <br /><small>Member # 3919</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2004,5,14,10,21,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> O.K...thanks for the responses guys. <img border="0" alt="[patriot]" title="" src="graemlins/patriot.gif" /> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>93PONY</b> <br /><small>Member # 60</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2004,5,14,19,26,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> Here's what I'd do:<br />AFR185<br />RPM intake<br />X303 for a smog motor. (no notching needed when you use aftermarket pistons with good sized valve reliefs)<br />XE274 or custom (read: LARGE & NASTY!) for more power.<br /><br />You'll have PLENTY of low-midrange with the 185's. The cross-section is smaller then TW heads & how many of those do you see around making tons of midrange TQ? (Fasterdamnit even has hogged out TW's & has a VERY nice TQ curve) <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>big matt</b> <br /><small>Member # 1124</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2004,5,15,11,14,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> where was the place u can get decent prices ur were sayin? <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>87 Saleen</b> <br /><small>Member # 1549</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2004,5,15,17,31,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> some dude on raccoonracing is "hooking" it up <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>WestCOCOBenchRacing</b> <br /><small>Member # 638</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2004,5,15,20,17,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> is any notching required with stock pistions with 185 afr heads with e or f cam? <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>graylx</b> <br /><small>Member # 3919</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2004,5,15,21,35,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by 93PONY:<br /><strong> Here's what I'd do:<br />AFR185<br />RPM intake<br />X303 for a smog motor. (no notching needed when you use aftermarket pistons with good sized valve reliefs)<br />XE274 or custom (read: LARGE & NASTY!) for more power.<br /><br />You'll have PLENTY of low-midrange with the 185's. The cross-section is smaller then TW heads & how many of those do you see around making tons of midrange TQ? (Fasterdamnit even has hogged out TW's & has a VERY nice TQ curve) </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"><img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[patriot]" title="" src="graemlins/patriot.gif" /> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>Black94 5.0</b> <br /><small>Member # 655</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2004,5,15,22,45,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by WestCOCOBenchRacing:<br /><strong> is any notching required with stock pistions with 185 afr heads with e or f cam? </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">F for sure, E yeah.... <img border="0" alt="[patriot]" title="" src="graemlins/patriot.gif" /><br /> <br /> <small>[ June 15, 2004, 10:50 PM: Message edited by: Black94 5.0 ]</small> <br /> </font> </td></tr> </table></td></tr></table> <br /> <br />
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