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1CLeeN5.0
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everything else passed on my stang except for the ignition timing i was running a 21 and he said that a 10 would make me pass. The power difference between running a 10 or a 21 is it big. should i change it back to a 21 after smog? thanks
Posts: 67 | From: Hayward, CA | Registered: Nov 2002
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166 Merlo
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no, keep it at 10, and race me so i can smoke you. ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
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Posts: 3954 | From: Thebay | Registered: Jul 2002
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mtbaughs
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I'm am suprised your car isn't pinging like an SOB with that kind of timing. 10 is about stock and it will have to be at 10 or real close to pass smog. Just set it, pass smog and than reset it anywhere from 10-12 or until it pings
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Posts: 2019 | From: Boise, Idaho | Registered: Jan 2004
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the50ho
THE50HO
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Originally posted by 1CLeeN5.0:
the ignition timing i was running a 21
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ARE YOU KIDDING ME? 21? Did you car detinate all to hell, or are you running 114 octane? JESUS....
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Posts: 4057 | From: Roseville, Ca (Sacramento) | Registered: Nov 2000
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Fostang
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What you mean your not supposto hear that "cool" rattle snake noise? ![[Razz]](tongue.gif)
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Posts: 3012 | From: Stockton/Danville | Registered: Nov 2003
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the50ho
THE50HO
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Originally posted by Fostang:
What you mean your not supposto hear that "cool" rattle snake noise?
LMFAO!!!!! ![[worship]](graemlins/worship.gif)
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Posts: 4057 | From: Roseville, Ca (Sacramento) | Registered: Nov 2000
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JoeT
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full ignition advance doesn't kick in till around 3500, and by then the typical flowmaster exhaust setup won't allow you to hear the pinging. but in a no-power adder scenario running 21 degrees timing certainly didn't melt a piston, but max power (assuming stock heads) is usually 12-14 BTDC , the smog value is 10 (best smog #'s), and if aluminum head, somewhere around 14-16 is probably max power.
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Posts: 6785 | From: San Jose | Registered: Jun 2001
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the50ho
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I could be wrong, but doesn't ca smog testing allow 2 degrees in each direction?
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Posts: 4057 | From: Roseville, Ca (Sacramento) | Registered: Nov 2000
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JoeT
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sounds right, but they're generally dicks in every direction. the max allowable idle rpm is 1100 and mine was fluctuating with a max of 1050 so they said I failed. WTF?
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Posts: 6785 | From: San Jose | Registered: Jun 2001
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the50ho
THE50HO
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Originally posted by shade-:
sounds right, but they're generally dicks in every direction. the max allowable idle rpm is 1100 and mine was fluctuating with a max of 1050 so they said I failed. WTF?
you've got to be kidding me? That's obserd. I'd just toss them a big FUCK YOU and head over to a more "mustang friendly" smog shop.
What a joke. ![[BS flag]](graemlins/bs_flag.gif)
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Posts: 4057 | From: Roseville, Ca (Sacramento) | Registered: Nov 2000
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Jimbo
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Just a thought but I wonder if the smog tech remembered to pull the spout connector to put it in base timing.
The acceptable range is + or - 3 degrees unless stated otherwise. ie some manufaturers spec say 8 BTDC + or - 1. RPM range is also specified by the maunfacturer.
Posts: 352 | From: Castro Valley,CA | Registered: Jun 2002
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mtbaughs
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Just a thought but I wonder if the smog tech remembered to pull the spout connector to put it in base timing
A very good point
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Posts: 2019 | From: Boise, Idaho | Registered: Jan 2004
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Hungry Hippo
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so set the timing so you can pass smog
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Posts: 2959 | From: east bay | Registered: Nov 2001
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the50ho
THE50HO
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the spout connector theory would make me understand better how his car is still running
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Posts: 4057 | From: Roseville, Ca (Sacramento) | Registered: Nov 2000
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Saint
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Yea my timing is at like 13 with the spout out. but with it in its like 17 i think. 21 is alot.
Posts: 239 | From: Antioch | Registered: Apr 2003
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