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<table border="0" cellpadding="1" cellspacing="1" width="99%" align="center"> <tr bgcolor="#000000"><td> <table border="0" width="100%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0"> <tr bgcolor="#000099"> <td colspan="2" align="left"> <font size="2" color="#ffffff" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>T O P I C R E V I E W</b> </font></td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>94Blackout</b> <br /><small>Member # 2541</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2004,0,29,14,53,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> Well, just got compression back, and #5 and #6 are at about 75... crap.<br /><br />So basically, I need to get this taken care of asap. I cannot do the work myself, so I am looking for someone to <br /><br />A) Sell me a 302 block AND install it.<br />B) Someone to sell me a block and someone else make offers on installing.<br />C) Someone that can rebuild the current block.. you give me the parts list, and I will buy everything, you put it together.<br /><br />Whoever can do either one of these 3 things the fastest, cheapest, and best quality, please email me at matsui56@earthlink.net, respond to this thread, or send me a PM. <br /><br />Any help is welcomed, I need to get this taken care of immediately, as this is my daily driver.<br /> <br /> <small>[ January 30, 2004, 11:32 AM: Message edited by: 94Blackout ]</small> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>NORCAL281</b> <br /><small>Member # 3754</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2004,0,29,15,0,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> some guy is selling a 306 with forged internals at the stallions website! he is asking 500 obo. check it out!!! jon <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>93PONY</b> <br /><small>Member # 60</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2004,0,29,16,17,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> Are you sure you didn't just blow a Head Gasket between the #5 &6 cylinders? <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>shade-</b> <br /><small>Member # 298</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2004,0,29,16,34,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">GT40-P heads, E-303 Cam, 1.72 Cobra Rockers</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">or misinstall those pedestal rockers? too tight could cause this (valve lifts off the seat and bleeds compression on cam base circle) <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>94Blackout</b> <br /><small>Member # 2541</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2004,0,29,17,38,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by 93PONY:<br /><strong> Are you sure you didn't just blow a Head Gasket between the #5 &6 cylinders? </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Sorry, that was supposed to be 5&8.<br /><br />And all the parts on the car have been on for well over a year now... I'm pretty sure the rings are farked. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>94Blackout</b> <br /><small>Member # 2541</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2004,0,29,18,26,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> Would a 302 stroke kit be ok? What else would be involved with this?<br /><br /> <a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=33620&item=2457227490" target="_blank">Ebay 302/347 stroker</a> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>Yung Than</b> <br /><small>Member # 728</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2004,0,29,20,31,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> The stroker kit might work, but I hear they don't last as long as a 302/306. You might have more durability with a 331 kit. You also need to have the stock block honed, zero decked, and balanced, and I think a girdle might be needed as well? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="confused.gif" /> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>94Blackout</b> <br /><small>Member # 2541</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2004,0,29,20,45,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Yung Than:<br /><strong> The stroker kit might work, but I hear they don't last as long as a 302/306. You might have more durability with a 331 kit. You also need to have the stock block honed, zero decked, and balanced, and I think a girdle might be needed as well? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="confused.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Thanks, I did a little more reading up and noticed that. Looks like its off on a search for a 331 kit. The 347 requires clearance, and a reinforced girdle. Son of a..... maybe I'll just jump on some heads instead. Anyone have recommendations on 331 stroker kits? <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>Yung Than</b> <br /><small>Member # 728</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2004,0,29,20,49,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> But you're sure the problem is in the block and not in the heads or blown gasket? Burnt valve maybe? <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>94Blackout</b> <br /><small>Member # 2541</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2004,0,29,21,25,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Yung Than:<br /><strong> But you're sure the problem is in the block and not in the heads or blown gasket? Burnt valve maybe? </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">The Ford shop I go to have always been pretty honest with me. They ran the leakdown and compression test, and thats what they came up with. And with the crazy amount of blowby I was havin (spitting out the dipstick), I'm not too surprised.<br /><br />Found a 331 stroker for the same price <a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=33620&item=2457228320" target="_blank">http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=33620&item=2457228320</a> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>94Blackout</b> <br /><small>Member # 2541</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2004,0,30,11,38,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> Well, got the kit on order.... 331 stroker<br /><br />HAWKS RACING 331 3.25"" STROKE NODULAR IRON CRANKSHAFT WITH STD/STD SB FORD JOURNAL SIZES <br /><br />331 5.400" CNC PROFILED LIGHTWEIGHT FORGED I-BEAM RODS WITH ARP WAVE-LOC BOLTS (BUSHED) <br /><br />KEITH BLACK .030 10cc DISH TOP, PIN FIT PISTONS <br />28oz Damper and Billet Flywheel<br /><br />And all the minor goodies.<br /><br />Any suggestions? I called DSS, they said I DEFINATELY need one of their main support girdles. Is this true? <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>NORCAL281</b> <br /><small>Member # 3754</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2004,0,30,11,41,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> sickkk congrats on the new motor!!! <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>1SLOWLX</b> <br /><small>Member # 558</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2004,0,30,15,18,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> you get what you pay for <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" /> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>Chosen1</b> <br /><small>Member # 1906</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2004,0,30,15,50,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by 1SLOWLX:<br /><strong> you get what you pay for <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">this is true to a certain extent. my rotating assembly are all scat parts (crank and rods), and pistons are from probe. i talked to both companies at length about the parts listed in the estimate the engine company gave me. Scat highly recommended the place and so did probe. <br /><br />The actual short block was dirt cheap, so basically the were only charging me a couple hundred bucks for the block, bearings, machining, and assembly. Too good to be true I asked? They were very cool to me in that I received the shortblock with a sheet consisting of ring gap specs, tolerances etc, etc for my motor.<br /><br />In the end, I was pretty happy, it held oil pressure, took it to 7500 and no problems. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>94Blackout</b> <br /><small>Member # 2541</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2004,0,30,15,59,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by 1SLOWLX:<br /><strong> you get what you pay for <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I know I could have spent a few more hundred bucks and got a forged crank and H-Beam rods, but I figured that on my DD that this setup should hold up nicely. <br /><br />For a mild application, I think what I have is more than adequate. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>cobraman_1994</b> <br /><small>Member # 467</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2004,0,30,16,1,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by 94Blackout:<br /><strong> <br />Any suggestions? I called DSS, they said I DEFINATELY need one of their main support girdles. Is this true? </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">if it is iron then go for it. it probably wont do to much other then keeping all your internals together when your block splits in half, but i would want that. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>94Blackout</b> <br /><small>Member # 2541</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2004,0,30,17,52,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> [/QUOTE]if it is iron then go for it. it probably wont do to much other then keeping all your internals together when your block splits in half, but i would want that. [/QB][/QUOTE]<br /><br />Is everyone working on the assumption that my engine is going to explode or what? <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>ray95</b> <br /><small>Member # 752</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2004,0,30,21,17,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> as long as you don't add a power adder or try and get to much HP you'll be fine. make sure you have the motor built at a reputable shop. take care of the engine and it should last you a long time.<br /><br />now if you plan on making a lot of power and racing the car then this wasn't a good choice of internals. <br /><br />just my .02 <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>cobraman_1994</b> <br /><small>Member # 467</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2004,0,30,21,22,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by 94Blackout:<br /><strong>Is everyone working on the assumption that my engine is going to explode or what? </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">lol<br />no, not yet.<br /> <br /> <small>[ January 30, 2004, 09:24 PM: Message edited by: cobraman_1994 ]</small> <br /> </font> </td></tr> </table></td></tr></table> <br /> <br />
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