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[QUOTE]Originally posted by 1/4 HORSE: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by MustangNate: [qb] If I was going to spend $8000 on a motor it'd be a Ford Racing 520ci 600hp big block. :) [/qb][/QUOTE]Too much wieght. Plus too many mods to get it to fit, which means more money anyway [/QB][/QUOTE]
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<table border="0" cellpadding="1" cellspacing="1" width="99%" align="center"> <tr bgcolor="#000000"><td> <table border="0" width="100%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0"> <tr bgcolor="#000099"> <td colspan="2" align="left"> <font size="2" color="#ffffff" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>T O P I C R E V I E W</b> </font></td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>Platinum Pony</b> <br /><small>Member # 970</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2006,7,7,17,4,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> just curious wether i should build my own motor or if its worth a little extra just to have it made...anyone know any good shops to get a motor built and what kinda price am i looking at to make around 400hp at the wheels, reliably<br /><br />thanks! <img border="0" alt="[patriot]" title="" src="graemlins/patriot.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[patriot]" title="" src="graemlins/patriot.gif" /> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>two-gun kid</b> <br /><small>Member # 5891</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2006,7,7,17,36,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Platinum Pony:<br /><strong> just curious wether i should build my own motor or if its worth a little extra just to have it made...anyone know any good shops to get a motor built and what kinda price am i looking at to make around 400hp at the wheels, reliably<br /><br />thanks! <img border="0" alt="[patriot]" title="" src="graemlins/patriot.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[patriot]" title="" src="graemlins/patriot.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">robs machine shop <img border="0" alt="[patriot]" title="" src="graemlins/patriot.gif" /> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>Platinum Pony</b> <br /><small>Member # 970</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2006,7,7,21,53,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> ball park price for a built 302? long block or crate <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>Eagle347</b> <br /><small>Member # 6205</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2006,7,7,22,31,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> You can usally buy a motor built cheaper than you can build one yourself these days. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>91 5.0 5speed</b> <br /><small>Member # 1867</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2006,7,7,23,27,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Platinum Pony:<br /><strong> just curious wether i should build my own motor or if its worth a little extra just to have it made...anyone know any good shops to get a motor built and what kinda price am i looking at to make around 400hp at the wheels, reliably<br /><br />thanks! <img border="0" alt="[patriot]" title="" src="graemlins/patriot.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[patriot]" title="" src="graemlins/patriot.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Do you have all the tools and machinery at your house that a machine shop does? If not have a shop build it! <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>Platinum Pony</b> <br /><small>Member # 970</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2006,7,8,1,28,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> what are we talking price wise though?? i would be happy to call myself haha but im kinda overseas right now and want to order it or have it started before i come home <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>1/4 HORSE</b> <br /><small>Member # 5094</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2006,7,8,2,8,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> 331/347 cid-485 hp<br /><br />-Bennett Racing Sportsman 331 or 347 Shortblock<br />-Custom Grind Hydraulic Roller Camshaft<br />-Canton 7 quart Oil Pan Kit<br />-Stage 2 TFS TW Cylinder Heads<br />-Roller Rockers & Hardened Pushrods<br />-Holley Systemax II Intake-Ported<br /><br /> <a href="http://www.bennettracing.com/crate.html" target="_blank">bennett racing</a> $8995 <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>1/4 HORSE</b> <br /><small>Member # 5094</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2006,7,8,2,19,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> You could even call Lance at CSM (california street machine). He built my engine and it put close to 400 rwhp the last time I had it dynoed. Cost me about 7 or 8 grand when it was all said and done on the engine alone. But hey, you gotta pay if you wanna play... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="smile.gif" /> <br /><br />CSM is a good choice <img border="0" alt="[patriot]" title="" src="graemlins/patriot.gif" /> <br />707 429 1888 <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>92stangLX</b> <br /><small>Member # 3252</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2006,7,8,17,26,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Platinum Pony:<br /><strong> ball park price for a built 302? long block or crate </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">The price will depend on how you build it and who builds it for you. Are you building it to stock specs or are you upgading the internals? What kind of heads are you going to run?<br /><br />Also, if you are going to have a forged 302 built you may as well upgrade to a 331 or 347 while you are at it. The price diff isn't that much.<br /><br />If you want an rough ballpark CHP forged 306 short blocks run between $1500 and $2500. A stroker is about $800 more. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>Platinum Pony</b> <br /><small>Member # 970</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2006,7,8,17,55,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> hmm ok and what else will i need to upgrade when i put a new motor in as far as fuel, cooling etc. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>92stangLX</b> <br /><small>Member # 3252</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2006,7,8,19,32,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Platinum Pony:<br /><strong> hmm ok and what else will i need to upgrade when i put a new motor in as far as fuel, cooling etc. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Are you trying to make 400hp NA or w/ a power adder? If you are using a power adder then you will need to use bigger injectors than NA. Anyway, I would upgrade the following:<br /><br />- fuel pump (or pumps)<br />- injectors<br />- AFPR<br />- MAF to match injectors<br />- Ingition (MSD, Crane, etc)<br />- Radiator (Summit makes a good aluminum one)<br />- High flow water pump<br /><br />There are probably a few other things I am leaving out. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>Platinum Pony</b> <br /><small>Member # 970</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2006,7,9,1,28,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> i got an msd pro billet ignition set its goign to be NA any suggestions for injector size and fuel pump?? <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>MustangNate</b> <br /><small>Member # 4559</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2006,7,9,2,15,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> If I was going to spend $8000 on a motor it'd be a Ford Racing 520ci 600hp big block. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="smile.gif" /> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>Platinum Pony</b> <br /><small>Member # 970</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2006,7,9,3,9,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> im thinking more along the lines of around 400 i dont want too much..i was thinking of just getting the 345 hp gt-40 crate from summit its 3,500 seems like a good deal to me and maybe throw in a small powerdyne or something <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>92stangLX</b> <br /><small>Member # 3252</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2006,7,9,10,59,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Platinum Pony:<br /><strong> i got an msd pro billet ignition set its goign to be NA any suggestions for injector size and fuel pump?? </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">30lb injectors and a 255lph in tank pump<br /><br /> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Platinum Pony:<br /><strong> im thinking more along the lines of around 400 i dont want too much..i was thinking of just getting the 345 hp gt-40 crate from summit its 3,500 seems like a good deal to me and maybe throw in a small powerdyne or something </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">$3500 is a pretty decent deal although you can do a lot better than those GT-40 heads. I would try and get a long block with Edelbrock, Trick Flow, or AFR heads. <br /><br />If you decide to go with a blower don't get a Powerdyne. Either get a Vortech s-trim or a Novi 1000. If you are on a budget then you can pick up a good used s-trim kit for under $2000. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>1/4 HORSE</b> <br /><small>Member # 5094</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2006,7,9,13,38,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by MustangNate:<br /><strong> If I was going to spend $8000 on a motor it'd be a Ford Racing 520ci 600hp big block. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="smile.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Too much wieght. Plus too many mods to get it to fit, which means more money anyway <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>2000GTskip</b> <br /><small>Member # 4885</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2006,7,9,23,22,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> Batteux racing in San leandro built my motor and he does 302's as well give him a call (510)351-7594 did a great job and can get u what u want at agreat price.. <img border="0" alt="[burnout]" title="" src="graemlins/burnout.gif" /> his name is Jean..tell him Chris sent u..<br /> <br /> <small>[ August 09, 2006, 11:22 PM: Message edited by: 2000GTskip ]</small> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>nine</b> <br /><small>Member # 6732</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2006,7,10,0,18,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by 1/4 HORSE:<br /><strong> 331/347 cid-485 hp<br /><br />-Bennett Racing Sportsman 331 or 347 Shortblock<br />-Custom Grind Hydraulic Roller Camshaft<br />-Canton 7 quart Oil Pan Kit<br />-Stage 2 TFS TW Cylinder Heads<br />-Roller Rockers & Hardened Pushrods<br />-Holley Systemax II Intake-Ported<br /><br /></strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"><strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Platinum Pony:<br />[qb] <<stuff deleted>> Anyway, I would upgrade the following:<br /><br />- fuel pump (or pumps)<br />- injectors<br />- AFPR<br />- MAF to match injectors<br />- Ingition (MSD, Crane, etc)<br />- Radiator (Summit makes a good aluminum one)<br />- High flow water pump<br /><br />There are probably a few other things I am leaving out. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">new oil pump<br />headers--preferably long tubes<br />tune (MAF doesn't have to "match" the injectors)<br /><br />btw I assume that you're talking about 400 rwhp NA<br /> <br /> <small>[ August 10, 2006, 12:19 AM: Message edited by: nine ]</small> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>Platinum Pony</b> <br /><small>Member # 970</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2006,7,10,4,45,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> yea not flywheel hp the only hard thing is its damn near impossible to call people dude to the stupid time difference and work schedule and what not BAH<br />but thanks for the info <img border="0" alt="[patriot]" title="" src="graemlins/patriot.gif" /> keep it coming if you guys got anything else <br /> </font> </td></tr> </table></td></tr></table> <br /> <br />
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