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Posted by Martinna (Member # 12493) on :
 
Many of you commute to work using public transportation. Big brother isn't giving up spying on you -----

http://www.npr.org/sections/alltechconsidered/2016/04/15/474405951/your-conversation-on-the-bus-or-train-may-be-recorded

If you're lucky, you'll get warned and see signs like "Video and Audio systems in use" on BART, Cal Train and other forms of public transportation. This means you're being video and audio taped with sensitive microphones to record your conversations. Yes, with STING RAY boxes used by cops are doing the same recording using your cell phone. Guess violating your cell phone wasn't enough for them.

TL;DR
Watch what you say while using public transportation like buses and trains. The government now records your conversions. Add this to the list of all your phone calls, text messages, emails and video chats they already record [patriot]

[ 2016-05-10, 04:30 AM: Message edited by: Martinna ]
 
Posted by CoyoteMike (Member # 13748) on :
 
Fuck off and die
 
Posted by i (Member # 12534) on :
 
Ibtl free post [Whoo Whooooo!]
 
Posted by stanger00 (Member # 13818) on :
 
news says BART cars don't have recording devices they are all decoys.

[ 2016-05-10, 08:15 AM: Message edited by: stanger00 ]
 
Posted by theconductor (Member # 13458) on :
 
Damn, now the government knows what I'm getting my wife for her birthday. I hope they don't tell her and ruin the surprise...
 
Posted by 135.0 (Member # 4992) on :
 
Did the government see my video of my 12 yo daughter who's pregnant as fuck?
 
Posted by Martinna (Member # 12493) on :
 
I hear people give up their 4th amendment rights and say "I have nothing to hide, so I don't care now that cops can remotely listen in on me and see everything on my phone with out me knowing."

Isn't the same way of thinking about the 1st amendment to say "I have nothing to say so I don't care if cops take away my freedom of speech." Think about it, these people use crooked logic.

Who here acts and talks the same when a camera and microphone is recording their everything movement? Do you talk and act the same now that you know internal government documents show all your texts, calls, and emails are being recorded too?


How can all of this not be a violation of your 4th amendment rights?
quote:
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

 
Posted by hurting your feelings (Member # 13641) on :
 
Do know everything that is on the Internet the government can see and read. So to the op maybe move to Montana and buy yourself a shack and a typewriter and go that route.
 
Posted by Martinna (Member # 12493) on :
 
hurting your feelings , that's not true. Every few months there is a new leaker. Hear about the Panama Papers? He or she leaked millions of documents and no one knows who he or she is. I guarantee you he or she didn't use products from microsoft, facebook or google. If you don't want the government to read and hear everything you do, DON'T USE PRODUCTS FROM THESE LYING COMPANIES. It's the government that is weaker when it comes to freedom, not us people. Later I will post a list of software programs and aps you can use to protect your constitutional rights online. 1st and 4th amendments mostly. I will list what you can use for secure and private

-----texting/messaging
-----voice calls
-----video calls
-----browsing
-----emails


If there is something else someone here wants to do while protecting their constitutional rights of freedom of speech and privacy, ask here and I'll do my best to share what I know to help you.
 
Posted by sic70stang (Member # 4347) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by theconductor:
Damn, now the government knows what I'm getting my wife for her birthday. I hope they don't tell her and ruin the surprise...
hahahahah
 
Posted by hurting your feelings (Member # 13641) on :
 
Zero fucks giving.
 
Posted by Martinna (Member # 12493) on :
 
Sorry guys, I'll post the links to the apps and programs I talked about earlier later in a new thread.

quote:
Originally posted by theconductor:
Damn, now the government knows what I'm getting my wife for her birthday. I hope they don't tell her and ruin the surprise...
Yes, they do know what you're getting her. Amazon and Ebay purposely don't use HTTPS. They only use HTTP. HTTP means your internet provider, the government and the guy next to you in the coffee shop can see everything you see in your browser. Mastercard and Visa also give all of your financial transactions to the government, as do banks. Either by directly giving this information to them, or letting the government tap their fiberoptic lines while they look the other way.

Now that government voice recorders are being installed on buses and trains, what's next? Do you think public parks are next? Maybe street lights since the electricity is already there.

When do free people get to vote about these things? [patriot]
 
Posted by 135.0 (Member # 4992) on :
 
I remember when we found out about the box of dildos Turbo Dan had purchased.

Can you help us find Dan?

[ 2016-05-11, 07:21 AM: Message edited by: 135.0 ]
 
Posted by CoyoteMike (Member # 13748) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Martinna:
Sorry guys, I'll post the links to the apps and programs I talked about earlier later in a new thread.

quote:
Originally posted by theconductor:
Damn, now the government knows what I'm getting my wife for her birthday. I hope they don't tell her and ruin the surprise...
Yes, they do know what you're getting her. Amazon and Ebay purposely don't use HTTPS. They only use HTTP. HTTP means your internet provider, the government and the guy next to you in the coffee shop can see everything you see in your browser. Mastercard and Visa also give all of your financial transactions to the government, as do banks. Either by directly giving this information to them, or letting the government tap their fiberoptic lines while they look the other way.

Now that government voice recorders are being installed on buses and trains, what's next? Do you think public parks are next? Maybe street lights since the electricity is already there.

When do free people get to vote about these things? [patriot]
You don't. So instead of bitching, pick up a firearm and change the system.
 
Posted by Martinna (Member # 12493) on :
 
---- 135.0 If the community wants to share resources, I will share my capabilities to hunt Dan down. We need to start a hunt scammer Dan down post and list his known past phone numbers, mailing addresses, email addresses, chat names, message board names, pictures, everything they have on the guy. Make the thread and let the hunt begin.


----- CoyoteMike glad to do what ever it takes. All the amendments are equally great [patriot]
 
Posted by Martinna (Member # 12493) on :
 
Can't make this up guys. The FBI has secretly put microphones in three Bay Area court houses with out a warrant ---- http://www.eastbayexpress.com/SevenDays/archives/2016/05/11/fbi-hid-surveillance-devices-around-alameda-county-courthouse

You won't believe this shit, they actually do stick microphones on poles to record the population
quote:
In Martinez, the FBI planted microphones in bushes, at a bus stop, on a pole, and inside parked and roving vehicles
To those that don't mind this, why doesn't it bother you? Do you think you live in a free country? Do you think you live in a democracy?

Do your laws exist to provide equal rules for all to abide by or do your laws exist so people with power and money can control people with out power and money? People like you. Liberty and Justice for Some [patriot]

[ 2016-05-13, 02:11 AM: Message edited by: Martinna ]
 
Posted by Martinna (Member # 12493) on :
 
FBI confirms they tap into your Amazon echo http://paleofuture.gizmodo.com/the-fbi-can-neither-confirm-nor-deny-wiretapping-your-a-1776092971
Do not trust these devices. Amazon electronics do not respect your freedom and privacy. They never have. The Amazon "Smart" TV is watching and listening all the time.
 
Posted by NEIGHT (Member # 8741) on :
 
Someone should come up with a jammer to distort their shit. Do you know how these recorders look like?
 
Posted by sic70stang (Member # 4347) on :
 
I know OP is getting a lot of slack for posting this stuff but I choose privacy over security. The overreach of the government is out of fucking control.
 
Posted by AL STOCK (Member # 1852) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Martinna:
Many of you commute to work using public transportation. Big brother isn't giving up spying on you -----

http://www.npr.org/sections/alltechconsidered/2016/04/15/474405951/your-conversation-on-the-bus-or-train-may-be-recorded

If you're lucky, you'll get warned and see signs like "Video and Audio systems in use" on BART, Cal Train and other forms of public transportation. This means you're being video and audio taped with sensitive microphones to record your conversations. Yes, with STING RAY boxes used by cops are doing the same recording using your cell phone. Guess violating your cell phone wasn't enough for them.

TL;DR
Watch what you say while using public transportation like buses and trains. The government now records your conversions. Add this to the list of all your phone calls, text messages, emails and video chats they already record [patriot]
Good informational post OP.


[patriot]
 
Posted by CoyoteMike (Member # 13748) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by AL STOCK:
quote:
Originally posted by Martinna:
Many of you commute to work using public transportation. Big brother isn't giving up spying on you -----

http://www.npr.org/sections/alltechconsidered/2016/04/15/474405951/your-conversation-on-the-bus-or-train-may-be-recorded

If you're lucky, you'll get warned and see signs like "Video and Audio systems in use" on BART, Cal Train and other forms of public transportation. This means you're being video and audio taped with sensitive microphones to record your conversations. Yes, with STING RAY boxes used by cops are doing the same recording using your cell phone. Guess violating your cell phone wasn't enough for them.

TL;DR
Watch what you say while using public transportation like buses and trains. The government now records your conversions. Add this to the list of all your phone calls, text messages, emails and video chats they already record [patriot]
Good informational post OP.


[patriot]
not really a good post. People have no reasonable right to privacy when in a public setting. Its why we can record the police, why you can record someones conversations, you can take pics of people ect.
 
Posted by BLK66FB (Member # 8282) on :
 
We have protection

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Posted by Martinna (Member # 12493) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by NEIGHT:
Someone should come up with a jammer to distort their shit. Do you know how these recorders look like?
You can get an idea of what some of these public surveillance devices look like on this website
https://theintercept.com/surveillance-catalogue/ but they are hidden and not in public view. They always show up to public protests in an unmarked car loaded with these devices.
 
Posted by Martinna (Member # 12493) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by sic70stang:
I know OP is getting a lot of slack for posting this stuff but I choose privacy over security. The overreach of the government is out of fucking control.
Thank you. The slack doesn't bother me because it's just foul language and GIFs. Notice no one argues the facts being posted. To be just, it's hard to argue against the government's own leaked internal documents.


The fed police are out of control in the Bay Area ------
http://www.eastbayexpress.com/SevenDays/archives/2016/07/07/federal-police-officer-offered-to-pimp-east-bay-teenager-at-center-of-oakland-police-sex-abuse-scandal

Police just got caught trying to pimp a teenage child in a sex abuse scandal!

This is what happens in society when laws are only applied to some people. For committing the same crime, if you're Hillary Smith, you get locked up. If you're Hillary Clinton you get let go free.

In an ideal world people would be punished for crimes, even if they are committed by people of prestige and power like police, politicians and the wealthy. We don't live in that ideal world.

[ 2016-07-10, 04:41 AM: Message edited by: Martinna ]
 
Posted by Martinna (Member # 12493) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by NEIGHT:
Someone should come up with a jammer to distort their shit. Do you know how these recorders look like?
Here are more pictures of the types of devices used by government to steal citizen's passwords

https://motherboard.vice.com/read/fbi-app-interception-systems

When turned on these small boxes will steal gmail, facebook, instagram, dropbox and other passwords from everyone in the area! Not just the bad guys. Not just the minorities. Everyone. If they put the box somewhere high, like on top of a tall building, it can steal passwords from phones miles away. When it comes to mass surveillance, no one is exempt. Facebook, google, apple, microsoft, att, verizon and t-mobile don't give up all the conversations from just the "bad guys" to the government. They give up a copy of the content of everyone's conversations to the government ---- just look at the NSAs own leaked internal document bragging about it ---- https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f3/PRISM_Collection_Details.jpg

You are not exempt because you are a good person. You are not exempt because you have nothing to hide.

[ 2016-07-11, 04:10 AM: Message edited by: Martinna ]
 
Posted by SLOWBACK 67 (Member # 6348) on :
 
I only send letters through the mail with special seals on the back and invisible ink. Inside a regular looking letter.... That way BIG BROTHER can't track my conversations.
 
Posted by Martinna (Member # 12493) on :
 
SLOWBACK 67 ---- If your implication is that post mail is the only secure form of communication among free citizens, it is false. There are many digital software communication programs out there which respect your liberty. Examples ----- https://californiafords.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=062804;p=1#000001 ----and---- https://californiafords.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=062804;p=2#000025 More software digital solutions to come. Wait for that post. If someone is in a rush, ask about your specific situation and desires here for help. [patriot]

[ 2016-07-10, 12:07 PM: Message edited by: Martinna ]
 
Posted by 135.0 (Member # 4992) on :
 
If the government is so on top of things, how come they didn't get Clinton on the emails, didn't stop the ISIS guy from killing the homos, didn't stop the black supremacist from shooting white cops?

ooooo
 
Posted by Martinna (Member # 12493) on :
 
Because they're spending most their resources doing forensics, not intelligence. Intelligence is to predict future events. Forensics is to go back in time and investigate a crime, policing. They record all calls, emails, texts and locations of everyone's phones so they can go back in time and do policing after a crime has been committed, not to prevent it.

Also, it's the government, when are they ever on top of things? Government is another word for inefficient and incompetent. Except when it comes to collecting taxes, that they're good at. [patriot]

[ 2016-07-10, 12:40 PM: Message edited by: Martinna ]
 
Posted by hurting your feelings (Member # 13641) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Martinna:
Because they're spending most their resources doing forensics, not intelligence. Intelligence is to predict future events. Forensics is to go back in time and investigate a crime, policing. They record all calls, emails, texts and locations of everyone's phones so they can go back in time and do policing after a crime has been committed, not to prevent it.

Also, it's the government, when are they ever on top of things? Government is another word for inefficient and incompetent. Except when it comes to collecting taxes, that they're good at. [patriot]
Go practice leaking your own ass Crack faggot.
 
Posted by CoyoteMike (Member # 13748) on :
 
This fucking faggot came out from under his rock again?
 
Posted by NorCalRacing (Member # 12488) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CoyoteMike:
Fuck off and die
?
 
Posted by NorCalRacing (Member # 12488) on :
 
Notice how the same group of twinkles attacking one poster? Same usernames, same responses. Time to bring out the photoshop crew and put some faces behind the names.
 
Posted by NorCalRacing (Member # 12488) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CoyoteMike:
Fuck off and die
?
 
Posted by NorCalRacing (Member # 12488) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CoyoteMike:
Fuck off and die
?
 
Posted by WILDMAN97 (Member # 9138) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by NorCalRacing:
quote:
Originally posted by CoyoteMike:
Fuck off and die
?
Yup that's a quote of a 3 month old post.
 
Posted by NorCalRacing (Member # 12488) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by WILDMAN97:
quote:
Originally posted by NorCalRacing:
quote:
Originally posted by CoyoteMike:
Fuck off and die
?
Yup that's a quote of a 3 month old post.
Awesome
 
Posted by 0089GT (Member # 9996) on :
 
ttt
 
Posted by Martinna (Member # 12493) on :
 
Bay Area citizens, stand up for your rights. 600 more signatures are needed to prevent BART from snooping on you -------

https://action.aclu.org/secure/take-stand-community-control-police-surveillance


Remember the 4th amendment the founding fathers gave you
quote:
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
This means your government can't spy on you with out a warrant obtained by providing probable cause on why your suspicious to a judge. The fact you ride BART is not sufficient reason for any judge, but that doesn't stop the lying, crooked BART police. Sign the petition and get your friends to ------------ https://action.aclu.org/secure/take-stand-community-control-police-surveillance
 
Posted by 135.0 (Member # 4992) on :
 
Need more Bart police, look what these criminals did... http://m.sfgate.com/crime/article/BART-takeover-robbery-50-to-60-teens-swarm-11094745.php
 
Posted by 135.0 (Member # 4992) on :
 
NSA warrantless surveillance program ending. Trump winning again. Martinna BTFO

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN17U2OF
 
Posted by Martinna (Member # 12493) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 135.0:
NSA warrantless surveillance program ending. Trump winning again. Martinna BTFO

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN17U2OF
Who you talk to, what you say to them and where you are when you say it is always recorded. It's not ending, look into it. They still snoop on US citizens with out a warrant using executive order 12333. Trump had nothing to do with this. It was Edward J. Snowden that provided documents to journalists whom told the world about this illegal Bush/Obama citizen spying program in 2013. Edward J. Snowden winning again!
 
Posted by Martinna (Member # 12493) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 135.0:
Need more Bart police, look what these criminals did... http://m.sfgate.com/crime/article/BART-takeover-robbery-50-to-60-teens-swarm-11094745.php
Can you explain using facts and coherent reasoning how BART police recording your bus train conversations will stop 50 kids storming a train? [Roll Eyes]


Bay Area citizens, stand up for your rights. 600 more signatures are needed to prevent BART from snooping on you -------

https://action.aclu.org/secure/take-stand-community-control-police-surveillance

[patriot] [patriot] [patriot]
 
Posted by 135.0 (Member # 4992) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Martinna:
quote:
Originally posted by 135.0:
NSA warrantless surveillance program ending. Trump winning again. Martinna BTFO

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN17U2OF
Who you talk to, what you say to them and where you are when you say it is always recorded. It's not ending, look into it. They still snoop on US citizens with out a warrant using executive order 12333. Trump had nothing to do with this. It was Edward J. Snowden that provided documents to journalists whom told the world about this illegal Bush/Obama citizen spying program in 2013. Edward J. Snowden winning again!
Obama didn't do nothing about it...
 
Posted by Martinna (Member # 12493) on :
 
Yes, Obama only grew the Bush era NSA--CIA--FBI--POLICE spying capabilities on its citizens. It took a brave American, Edward J. Snowden to give journalists documents they needed to prove to us that what you say, who you say it to and where you are when you say it is always recorded.


Can you explain using facts and coherent reasoning how BART police recording your bus train conversations will stop 50 kids storming a train? [Roll Eyes]

Do the right thing and sign this petition -------------- https://action.aclu.org/secure/take-stand-community-control-police-surveillance

[ 2017-05-01, 03:00 PM: Message edited by: Martinna ]
 
Posted by 135.0 (Member # 4992) on :
 
We need more Bart police to deter crime, not some 300k a year janitor that takes afternoon naps in his supply closet.
 
Posted by 135.0 (Member # 4992) on :
 
Young Turks are fake news and bill Clinton is a rapist
 
Posted by 135.0 (Member # 4992) on :
 
Trump winning again, Martinna BTFO again


http://www.blogs.va.gov/VAntage/37483/president-donald-j-trump-visits-va-and-signs-executive-order-improving-accountability-and-whistleblower-protection-at-the-department-of-vetera ns-affairs/
 
Posted by Martinna (Member # 12493) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Martinna:
Bay Area citizens, stand up for your rights. 600 more signatures are needed to prevent BART from snooping on you -------

https://action.aclu.org/secure/take-stand-community-control-police-surveillance


Remember the 4th amendment the founding fathers gave you
quote:
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
This means your government can't spy on you with out a warrant obtained by providing probable cause on why your suspicious to a judge. The fact you ride BART is not sufficient reason for any judge, but that doesn't stop the lying, crooked BART police. Sign the petition and get your friends to ------------ https://action.aclu.org/secure/take-stand-community-control-police-surveillance
Gentleman, if you ever installed the BART app on your phone, DELETE IT RIGHT AWAY! The app spies on you and constantly sends your location and other information to the cops! Read--------- http://www.eastbayexpress.com/SevenDays/archives/2017/05/22/bart-police-accused-of-illegally-collecting-private-cell-phone-data-and-tracking-riders-through-app

There are similar apps government apps used in Sacramento and Santa Clara that spy on you.

BART police has a history of being lying, crooked murderers. Never install government issued software on your electronic devices.

I know, I know. Some of you good people. You have nothing to hide. You gladly will install BART apps and other apps like it that secretly sends your GPS location, communications and other information to the police just to prove to the world what a good person you really are. Keep it up friend, you have a beautiful future ahead of you.
 
Posted by Martinna (Member # 12493) on :
 
Do you use corporate eaves dropping devices like google or Amazon Alexa? Amazon employees are listening to your conversations, transcribing them and laughing at you -------------- F**k Off Alexa: Thousands of Amazon Employees Listen to Your Conversations.
 
Posted by Captain Obvious (Member # 7842) on :
 
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Posted by Martinna (Member # 12493) on :
 
Captain Obvious----- yeah it checks out.


They just caught Facebook stealing the contacts list of 1.5 million of its users ------- https://shmoozezone.com/blogs/entry/Facebook-Stole-1-5-million-Contacts

Facebook tricked 1.5 million of their suckers, I mean users into giving them their email passwords before they could login. Facebook then logged into their accounts and so far we know stole all their contacts. We don't know if they stole anything else like actual emails from people. Facebook wouldn't have been able to do this if you used a legit secure email provider like https://protonmail.com

Remember this is the same guy that when he started Facebook at Harvard was chatting with his friend and called Facebook users dumb fucks for trusting him with so much information----

Zuck: Yeah so if you ever need info about anyone at Harvard

Zuck: Just ask.

Zuck: I have over 4,000 emails, pictures, addresses, SNS

[Redacted Friend's Name]: What? How'd you manage that one?

Zuck: People just submitted it.

Zuck: I don't know why.

Zuck: They "trust me"

Zuck: Dumb fucks.


This same guy that can read through all of your facebook, instagram and whatsapps cloud messages when ever he wants bought all the homes around his own for $30 million for more privacy.


He colluded with the Obama 2012 reelection campaign to give Obama your personal information to be machine learned and data mined to re-elect Obama.

Anyone know his position on guns? Probably the type that hires armed guards to protect his child, but doesn't want you to have guns to protect your children. Typical corporate Democrat.

[ 2019-04-22, 03:16 PM: Message edited by: Martinna ]
 




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