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<table border="0" cellpadding="1" cellspacing="1" width="99%" align="center"> <tr bgcolor="#000000"><td> <table border="0" width="100%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0"> <tr bgcolor="#000099"> <td colspan="2" align="left"> <font size="2" color="#ffffff" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>T O P I C R E V I E W</b> </font></td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>5OHS5OH</b> <br /><small>Member # 4665</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2010,9,4,23,12,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> I tried searching the DMV site and this site but couldn't find the topic, athough I know it's been brought up before.<br /><br />I'm selling a current non-op, without a smog (hopefully). Is it possible, and what paperwork do I need?<br /><br />Thanks. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>essasin</b> <br /><small>Member # 4741</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2010,9,4,23,20,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> I think the only way you can sell the car without smog is to write out a set of conditions in the bill of sale as an "off road only" and "as is" vehicle. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>N8</b> <br /><small>Member # 6048</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2010,9,4,23,54,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by essasin:<br /><strong> I think the only way you can sell the car without smog is to write out a set of conditions in the bill of sale as an "off road only" and "as is" vehicle. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">nah you are still responsible I believe. If you do find that asshole buyer, I believe they can make you smog it. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>solbrothers</b> <br /><small>Member # 7524</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2010,9,5,0,28,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> seller is responsible for smog always. <br /><br />you can get away without it if the buyer is cool or stupid. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>5OHS5OH</b> <br /><small>Member # 4665</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2010,9,5,6,39,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> The potential buyer doesn't seem like he cares too much. I just thought I would do a release of liability and sign the title. Maybe I should write out a bill of sale with the "as-is" on there. I am done with smog. Hopefully my deal on a 59 olds goes through. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>Bent70</b> <br /><small>Member # 9694</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2010,9,5,11,21,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> You can write whatever on the bill of sale, but ultimately you are responsible for smog according to California.<br /><br />Honestly, I bought a car and figured on smogging it myself, which I thought was no big deal but a year later I still don't have a smog and no pink. Fighting every leak and issue just to get to the station.<br />I now wish I had the previous owner smog the fucking thing. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="rolleyes.gif" /> ....next time <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /><br /> <br /> <small>[ October 05, 2010, 11:23 AM: Message edited by: Bent70 ]</small> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>CobraChick</b> <br /><small>Member # 9885</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2010,9,5,11,26,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> i heard as long as the buyer and seller make an agreement you can sell it without smog.... if i were you i would just call DMV and ask them <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>N8</b> <br /><small>Member # 6048</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2010,9,5,11,38,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by CobraChick:<br /><strong> i heard as long as the buyer and seller make an agreement you can sell it without smog.... if i were you i would just call DMV and ask them </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">nope they can still hold you liable and it can back fire on you.<br /><br />From the DMV<br /><br /> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> When a car is sold, who is responsible for the inspection?<br /><br />The seller is required to provide the buyer with a valid smog inspection certification at the time of the sale or transfer. Smog certifications are good for 90 days from the date of issuance.<br /><br />The inspection is not required on a transfer if a biennial smog certification was submitted to DMV within 90 days prior to the vehicle transfer date (a vehicle inspection report may be required for proof of certification).<br /><br />NOTE: Smog certifications are not required for transfers that occur for a gasoline powered motor vehicle that is four or less model years old. (Determine the oldest-qualifying year model by subtracting three from the current year) the four or less model years old rule does not apply to diesel powered vehicles. A smog transfer fee will be collected from the new owner. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>essasin</b> <br /><small>Member # 4741</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2010,9,5,13,27,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> Non op the car and sell it as a non operational vehicle. Can't smog a car that is declared not operational. Worth a shot. What kind of car are you trying to sell anyways? <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#f7f7f7"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>NorCalRydaz</b> <br /><small>Member # 3233</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2010,9,5,17,28,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> The seller is responsible for the smog. If the buyer wants to pull a fast one he could do what he wants with the car after he buys it and you would still be responsible. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#dedfdf"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> <b>5OHS5OH</b> <br /><small>Member # 4665</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial"> <img src="https://californiafords.com/ubb/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.writeln(timestamp(new Date(2010,9,5,17,54,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><hr /> </font> <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> It is a non-op right now. I think it would turn into a civil issue between me and the seller, and he already knows that the engine needs a rebuild, and I ain't hiding anything from him at all. There's nothing he's gonna run into that I didn't explain.<br /><br />BTW it's an 89 GT vert. It's in the sale secton for $1800. <br /> </font> </td></tr> </table></td></tr></table> <br /> <br />
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