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Wont agree to Olympic style drug testing but will agree to 10 million for every pound over the 147lb limit. Both terms are equally unheard of. But I would think the drug test would be an easy hurdle. I say if he dont test he is a doper.
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Your a doper
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this fight better not be called off because of bullshit like this.
hope he (pac) agrees to testing, what was it 48 hrs before the fight. if he agrees it will be an even playing field in the minds for both fighters and the fans.
btw, mayweather is going to beat pac's catfish head in.
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quote: Originally posted by 68stanger: this fight better not be called off because of bullshit like this.
hope he (pac) agrees to testing, what was it 48 hrs before the fight. if he agrees it will be an even playing field in the minds for both fighters and the fans.
btw, mayweather is going to beat pac's catfish head in.
I agree but the reason they are citing is because of superstition and because manny is scared of needles and bullshit like that. I believe all top crust athletes should be subjected to Olympic style testing. I think if he doesn't do it, he is hiding something.
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quote: Originally posted by N8: quote: Originally posted by 68stanger: this fight better not be called off because of bullshit like this.
hope he (pac) agrees to testing, what was it 48 hrs before the fight. if he agrees it will be an even playing field in the minds for both fighters and the fans.
btw, mayweather is going to beat pac's catfish head in.
I agree but the reason they are citing is because of superstition and because manny is scared of needles and bullshit like that. I believe all top crust athletes should be subjected to Olympic style testing. I think if he doesn't do it, he is hiding something.
If you read ther espn article Manny and his trainer agreed to the testing when it was first put into the contract. Now all of a sudden manny is "scared of needles"? smells like Bullshit to me. Manny must be hiding something! Floyd agreed to all his stipulations and now he refuses this? Floyd can still make an easy 15 million by waiting on the winner of the Moseley vs Berto Fight. Either way it will be "easy work" [ December 23, 2009, 12:57 PM: Message edited by: East Bay 50 ]
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I think the reason he doesn't want the drug testing is the cycling of the PEDs...He said he would agree to be tested before training and after the fight, but not during training...He wants the urine type test...Doesn't look right for the Pacquiao camp...They will spin it the Mayweather is scared, but who is really scared?...take the test!
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NO TEST = CHEATER
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quote: Originally posted by rmadison007: I think the reason he doesn't want the drug testing is the cycling of the PEDs...He said he would agree to be tested before training and after the fight, but not during training...He wants the urine type test...Doesn't look right for the Pacquiao camp...They will spin it the Mayweather is scared, but who is really scared?...take the test!
yea Olympic testing is more rigorous and tests for more stuff. I always figured he was taking something. I wouldnt go as far as steriods, but I am firm he is taking something that would be considered a banned substance. They are already trying to spin this as harassment by Floyd. But 10 million per pound over 147 is pure harassment if you ask me. Manny I hate to say it is a fuckin low-life as cheater. Always trying to pigeon hole and advantage for himself. I am losing respect for him fast.
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They'll end up fighting and like i said before...MANNY WILL WIN
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What bothers me is that he is trying to stipulate when he wants to be tested...If you are clean it doesn't matter when your tested...Also the superstition and harassment spin on this is very comical and really cheap...I smell Margarito situation all over again...If it is true I feel bas for Cotto...
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quote: Originally posted by SydeWaySix: They'll end up fighting...
Arum is already telling folks the fight is off.
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my dad is terrified of needles. if he sees a needle getting anywhere close to his arms, he literally turns pale. it cracks me up. some people really do have a true fear of needles. some worse than others.
n8 - i don't think you really ever gave manny respect as a fighter. every post you make about him is something negative to pick on his ass. PBF is great, i just want to see his cocky ass get beat;).
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from: http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=4766171
"We're going in a different direction," Arum told the Grand Rapids newspaper. "What I believe is that Floyd never really wanted the fight and this is just harassment of Pacquiao.
"We appeased Mayweather by agreeing to a urine analysis at any time, and blood testing before the press conference and after the fight. Mayweather pressed for blood testing even up to the weigh-in. He knew that Manny gets freaked out when his blood gets taken, and feels that it weakens him. This is just harassment and, to me, just signaled that he didn't want the fight."
Olympic style testing is more rigorous than the drug testing performed by the Nevada State Athletic Commission and other state commissions. It would involve random blood and urine testing before and after the fight. Nevada commission testing only tests urine for banned substances, once just before the fight and once immediately following the fight.
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/boxing/2009-12-22-mayweather-pacquiao_N.htm
"Mayweather proves that he's a coward and he's looking for a way out of the fight. The Nevada commission has been doing drug testing for the last 40 years. To appease Mayweather, we agreed they could do urine analysis anytime they wanted. But Manny doesn't want them to draw his blood when he's in training because it weakens him."
http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-10947-Indianapolis-Fight-Sports-Examiner~y2009m12d23-Cheap-Tricks-Mayweather-never-wanted-to-fight-Pacquiao-on-March-13
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with all that said it seems to me like this is only a tactic being used to try to get into Pacman's skin, a ploy to sike him out! Las Vegas has been testing all the major fights, so why this? and why now? he didnt do this with his last fight, which was supposedly bigger than this! how is he cheating if he agrees to test after the fight?!
"He, Pacquiao, would only agree to have blood drawn before the kick-off press conference and after the fight."
i know theres going to be an answer/ excuse for all of this, but i just wanted to put my 2 cents in before people went nuts with this discussion.
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quote: Originally posted by N8: quote: Originally posted by rmadison007: I think the reason he doesn't want the drug testing is the cycling of the PEDs...He said he would agree to be tested before training and after the fight, but not during training...He wants the urine type test...Doesn't look right for the Pacquiao camp...They will spin it the Mayweather is scared, but who is really scared?...take the test!
yea Olympic testing is more rigorous and tests for more stuff. I always figured he was taking something. I wouldnt go as far as steriods, but I am firm he is taking something that would be considered a banned substance. They are already trying to spin this as harassment by Floyd. But 10 million per pound over 147 is pure harassment if you ask me. Manny I hate to say it is a fuckin low-life as cheater. Always trying to pigeon hole and advantage for himself. I am losing respect for him fast.
LOL, he hasn't even tested positive for a banned substance, and your already losing respect for him???
Moseley tested positive for STEROIDS and you have alot of praise for him...hmmmmmm???
Let's see what the outcome is first.
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quote: Originally posted by stangin': n8 - i don't think you really ever gave manny respect as a fighter. every post you make about him is something negative to pick on his ass.
Thank you N8 just hates Pac-man for some reason i think N8 needs to step into the ring with Manny [ December 23, 2009, 02:38 PM: Message edited by: SydeWaySix ]
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quote: Originally posted by stangin': my dad is terrified of needles. if he sees a needle getting anywhere close to his arms, he literally turns pale. it cracks me up. some people really do have a true fear of needles. some worse than others.
n8 - i don't think you really ever gave manny respect as a fighter. every post you make about him is something negative to pick on his ass. PBF is great, i just want to see his cocky ass get beat;).
One of my crewmates last season would pass out when he would see a needle, or blood.
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just another post for n8 to hate
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quote: Originally posted by SydeWaySix: quote: Originally posted by stangin': n8 - i don't think you really ever gave manny respect as a fighter. every post you make about him is something negative to pick on his ass.
i think N8 needs to step into the ring with Manny
I got 500 on N8 N8 have your people contact his his people so we can get the ball rolling.
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when i have blood drawn @stanford, i get light headed as *uck afterwords and my arm is hella soar the nextday....manny wants to take the test afterwords well that says it all..it should be fine then..let the fight begin!! btw im not a fan of manny but i would like to see him fight floyd just because of that fact there is so much crap talking on the both sides and umm actually the whole world haha....manny has lost my respect as a person when i first started seeing all these corrupt politicians in the ring and outside with him and sitting ringside..now he is trying to become involved with politics which is totally stupid in my opinion..
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quote: Originally posted by stangin': my dad is terrified of needles. if he sees a needle getting anywhere close to his arms, he literally turns pale. it cracks me up. some people really do have a true fear of needles. some worse than others.
n8 - i don't think you really ever gave manny respect as a fighter. every post you make about him is something negative to pick on his ass. PBF is great, i just want to see his cocky ass get beat;).
I have always given him respect. He lines em up and knocks em down. But... there is always this business of match weights and to the casual fan of boxing they do not understand how unfair that is. Also they never advertise publicly how his opponents are handicapped by that stipulation. Now that someone is reversing some adversity on his ass, he wants to back out. I guess you can say I am a bigger fan boxing than I am either man actually. And for the record I am not a huge fan of mayweather either, because overall he is not great for boxing. He fights for checks, not respect. Which is why it appears he ducks folks. When in fact he is ducking their lack of drawing power.
If Manny doesnt accept the testing, he is a cheating bastard. No other way to put this. It is a damn well documented process and it is thorough. It can trace substances in blood from great distances back. so a bad test could make it bad for some past fights. I really didnt think a drug test would raise so many eyebrows on their side. Hell Floyd agreed to 10 MILLION PER POUND OVER 147. NOW THAT IS UNHEARD OF. [ December 23, 2009, 05:00 PM: Message edited by: N8 ]
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quote: Originally posted by slowback67: quote: Originally posted by SydeWaySix: quote: Originally posted by stangin': n8 - i don't think you really ever gave manny respect as a fighter. every post you make about him is something negative to pick on his ass.
i think N8 needs to step into the ring with Manny
I got 500 on N8 N8 have your people contact his his people so we can get the ball rolling.
That would be money in the bank....lol. I'd knock his lil ass somewhere into the 5th row.. , I'd fight him for a 200 EBT card and some wet food stamps, in a phone booth on E14th too. [ December 23, 2009, 05:02 PM: Message edited by: N8 ]
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In the ESPN cast, they talked about how Manny is willing to have blood tests before the press conference and DIRECTLY after the fight...
That sounds good enough to me...
Since the Olympic style testing is random, I wouldn't want a needle in my arm at 4AM on fight-night either...
If he was taking something EVER, a blood test before the press conference AND after the fight will suffice.
So the question is, why won't Mayweather let them take a blood test as Manny agrees to? [ December 23, 2009, 05:59 PM: Message edited by: Tha91SiCkNeSs ]
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I seems like alot of people here are just hating on Floyd cause they think he is an asshole (which he is lol!) but, Does anyone remember when Moseley was accused of taking PED's? If you noticed he never tested positive for anything before or after he fougth De la Hoya. It was not until Balco got raided that the accusations arose that he was on roids. If Moseley could so easily get away with being on roids a few years back. What is to say that Pacman has not been getting away with the same thing? Floyd is willing to submit to the same tests. So it's a level playing field. Manny could go through a cylce of roids. during training and take be clean by the time the piss test comes. BECAUSE HE KNOWS WHEN HE HAS TO TAKE IT! The whole being scared of needles stuff is Bullshit! if that were true, Why does the hell does he have TATTOOS! Open your eyes and see this for what it really is!
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i have tats an i can't stayed needles
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